You may go to hell and I will go to Texas

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Way, way back when,some folks claimed the panhandle of Texas extended north up into our ranch in SE Wyoming.

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I been to Texas and liked it. But these days, that old rock out in the pasture is a close to Texas as I'm liable to get.
 
Somewhere in storage, I have a book comprised of letters written to and from Texas and Missouri. Lots of Missourians also went to Texas and helped with the independence. One letter from a Missouri boy told his folks that he sees more Missourians than anyone else down there.

But then this was a fight, most Missouri boys will go to a fight. Generals on both sides liked the Mo boys, they said get me some more of them, they fight like Tigers. Now you know where the University of Mo got it's nickname.
 
Davy made that statement in Rutherford, TN, his last home here before going to Texas. when he was born, TN was still part of NC and the county he was born in was part of the state of Franklin, the six NE counties of TN now. Rutherford is my home town and I live three miles from where I grew up which was about five miles as the crow flies from his last home. if you google davy crockett cabin, Rutherford, tn you will see the cabin built in 1956 on the Rutherford school grounds using some original logs from his cabin, his mother's cabin and others donated from the local area. lee
 
Way, way back when,some folks claimed the panhandle of Texas extended north up into our ranch in SE Wyoming.

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I been to Texas and liked it. But these days, that old rock out in the pasture is a close to Texas as I'm liable to get.

In my previous reply I mentioned those Mo boys will fight. This map by Iggy shows another example. In the upper right hand corner east of the Missouri River is Iowa Territories. South to just before the 40th is a dotted line denoting the state boundary.

If you go to the 40th you'll see a solid line east and west that matches up with the dotted line for the state boundaries of Ks and Ne.

The dotted line between Mo an Ia was originally on the 40th.

Iowa sheriffs and tax collectors were coming into Mo and taxing Mo folks. You know this is no good when Mo folks don't even like their own tax collectors.

Words led to a fight, General Dodge in Ia raised an Army, Mo raised an army. did I mention those Mo boys will fight?

The Mo boys ended up owning Ia close to Des Moine.

The supreme court later heard this case and gave Ia part of their state back.

This was called the honey wars, it was the only war between 2 states in our history.

Iggy, thanks for putting the map up. Yep that is quite a panhandle.
 
I used to live in Hell Mi. And yes it does freeze over.I left Hell and moved to Tn where my family came from. I also like to visit Tx my son lives there and if I could not live I Tn I would choose Tx.I also have a branch of my family who moved to Tx after the war between the states.So I do agree with Davy Crockett when he said"You go to hell I'll go to Texas"
 
Did you notice on the map that the Bent Bros- MO guys- put their fort on the North side of the Arkansas? That's Now near La Junta, CO.
At that time, Mexico claimed their North border was the Arkansas and the Bents wanted not to be in Mexico.
 
I've always felt a close kinship to Texas and Texans. In the forth grade our teacher was a history nut. And she spent half the year teaching us about the Alamo and Davy Crockett and everyone that fought and died there. And I was also very fascinated since Crockett at one time lived in Tennessee. I'm not sure what her thing was about the Alamo? Maybe she was from Texas? Maybe from where he lived in Tennessee? Now thinking back on it, I wish I knew, why she was so fascinated? But I was only 8 or 9 at the time.
 
My high school Texas History teacher was quite an old gal. First day she asked "Everyone have their history book?" as she held a copy of the textbook above her head. We all held our books up. Then she hurled her book to the corner and said "Just toss 'em on the floor, and I'm going to teach y'all the real stuff."
She had piles of old maps, real antique letters, tintypes and documents in English and Spanish....and she knew it all by heart.
 
In my previous reply I mentioned those Mo boys will fight. This map by Iggy shows another example. In the upper right hand corner east of the Missouri River is Iowa Territories. South to just before the 40th is a dotted line denoting the state boundary.

If you go to the 40th you'll see a solid line east and west that matches up with the dotted line for the state boundaries of Ks and Ne.

The dotted line between Mo an Ia was originally on the 40th.

Iowa sheriffs and tax collectors were coming into Mo and taxing Mo folks. You know this is no good when Mo folks don't even like their own tax collectors.

Words led to a fight, General Dodge in Ia raised an Army, Mo raised an army. did I mention those Mo boys will fight?

The Mo boys ended up owning Ia close to Des Moine.

The supreme court later heard this case and gave Ia part of their state back.

This was called the honey wars, it was the only war between 2 states in our history.

Iggy, thanks for putting the map up. Yep that is quite a panhandle.

Michigan (a territory at the time) and Ohio (a state) had a dispute about the city of Toledo. Michigan won and Ohio got Toledo. :p

Yes, I said that as a joke, yet in reality it's true. Ohio, as a state got Toledo and it's important port, but as a consolation prize, Michigan was given the Upper Peninsula, which was rich in lumber and minerals, namely copper and iron.
 
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