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Local Micky D's is 2 lane drive through, many in JAX are too.
Young Men and Behavior
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Yes, because no one has ever left the military with mental health issues caused by their service. Also, I've never met a veteran who developed alcoholism/drug issues because of combat experience. The military is a cure all for all….
Probably true. How about No Service, No Franchise? At least it would keep the losers from voting.
At the very least, I think that the two years of mandatory service would teach the larger share of today's youth the value of common sense and responsibility which seems to be missing in the last couple of generations. What has already been pointed out, those youths with the parents who learned common sense from their parents seems to pass it on to their kids.
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My point was discipline. You spent two years under military discipline. You did what you were told when you were told and learned it worked. It was not a reform school, but it was discipline. And anti discipline behavior had consequences. You learned that everyone was not the same color as you, did not come from the same place, but you all worked together and got the job done. Alcohol and drug abuse probably on a par with the current average college fraternity, without anyone telling you how "woke" you needed to be.
It's the Marine Corps
Probably true. How about No Service, No Franchise? At least it would keep the losers from voting.
I trust you're joking. If not, the poll tax is not far off.
Not equivalent to a poll tax as it has no economic component. Equitable restrictions on the franchise aren't necessarily a bad thing.
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I can't help but think that a lot of today's delinquents are the result of the realistic and violent video games that promote killing and destruction. If anything needs a 21 and up license it's that nonsense.
There are so many things culminating these days to corrupt the young minds full of mush, it takes a strong morally founded family unit to raise a youngster properly. At this point, I believe all we can do is set good examples, and pray a lot.
There are so many things culminating these days to corrupt the young minds full of mush, it takes a strong morally founded family unit to raise a youngster properly. At this point, I believe all we can do is set good examples, and pray a lot.
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Here is something to ponder.
Do you think today's youth just woke up one day and was all screwed up?
You want to know who is responsible take a look in the mirror.
The things we blame have been developed and cultivated over generations previous.
It is like a relationship when it is over we all just want to remember the good things. Not the harm we may have caused.
Do you think today's youth just woke up one day and was all screwed up?
You want to know who is responsible take a look in the mirror.
The things we blame have been developed and cultivated over generations previous.
It is like a relationship when it is over we all just want to remember the good things. Not the harm we may have caused.
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ExcitableBoy
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I am of the Robert A. Heinlein school of thought: No federal service of some sort, or no enfranchisement. It doesn't matter if it would be military, police, park ranger, or whatever.
Paying taxes is not a qualifier. All that just means that you can avail yourself of publicly funded services, utilities and the use of public roads, etc.
To put it into old programmer terms: GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out).
Do something for the country!!!
Paying taxes is not a qualifier. All that just means that you can avail yourself of publicly funded services, utilities and the use of public roads, etc.
To put it into old programmer terms: GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out).
Do something for the country!!!
I'm going to throw the overalls in the chowder. How many new bureaucrats will be needed to administer such a program? Who decides who gets assigned to what job? And what happens when the assignee of the job doesn't want to do it?
I never had any children so I am not going to pretend I have any answers about how children should be raised. But I do like to draw upon the experience of a friend and classmate of mine, who became a Judge Advocate Corps (JAG) attorney in the Marine Corps. He described to me the counseling he gave to criminal defendants and the predictable courses of behavior that these defendants would fall into if they continued to make bad choices in life. This is what he told the defendants he counseled. I guess the upshot was he tried to impress upon these defendants that ultimately they had to make the affirmative decision to make good life choices to keep out of progressively more serious trouble.
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This subject's a well worn path, here and elsewhere on the interwebs. MHO? the draft's been gone too long, bringing it back up would be way more trouble than it's worth. When I went in, ('69), the draft was a way of life. After high school, guys either enlisted or went to work and waited for their "greetings," like Dad, brothers, uncles, and so on. That link was broken a long time ago. Even if we were put upon by China or Russia and the draft was reinstated, it would be a Chinese fire drill, (no pun intended). By the time sufficient recruits were ready, we'd be overrun.
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Yes, for those of us who served in the Draft Era military-Army in my case, though I was an RA- we found the old notion that the Army was a place to "grow up" was "greatly exaggerated". "What's the difference between the Army and the Boy Scouts ? The Boy Scouts have adult leaders."
Video games ? Back in the 1950s when "juvenile delinquency" alarmed people, comic books became the designated villain, though as MAD publisher William Gaines said "Delinquents don't read." Then in the 1960s and 70s it was TV, then pornography.
I blame drugs myself, the long term effects are starting to be understood, when brain cells burn out they don't regenerate.
Video games ? Back in the 1950s when "juvenile delinquency" alarmed people, comic books became the designated villain, though as MAD publisher William Gaines said "Delinquents don't read." Then in the 1960s and 70s it was TV, then pornography.
I blame drugs myself, the long term effects are starting to be understood, when brain cells burn out they don't regenerate.
UncleEd
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So ultimately, even in peace time a "citizen"
is really nothing more than subservient
chattel for Caesar.
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UncleEd
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I guarantee one and all that if
a military draft was reinstated,
voter awareness would rise
a thousand-fold as to what
hostilities and ventures would
get support or no support.
a military draft was reinstated,
voter awareness would rise
a thousand-fold as to what
hostilities and ventures would
get support or no support.
Darned young folks...
Ages in 1776:
James Monroe, 18
Aaron Burr, 20
John Marshall, 20
Alexander Hamilton, 21
James Madison, 25
Benjamin Rush, 30
John Jay, 30
Thomas Jefferson, 33
Thomas Paine: 39
PS: I am against peace time conscription.
Ages in 1776:
James Monroe, 18
Aaron Burr, 20
John Marshall, 20
Alexander Hamilton, 21
James Madison, 25
Benjamin Rush, 30
John Jay, 30
Thomas Jefferson, 33
Thomas Paine: 39
PS: I am against peace time conscription.
Chubbo
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My opinion
This is my candid opinion of the good behavior, of young humans. And that includes both genders. This is my belief; it's best to start good behavior training at birth.
Good behavior can only be achieved by training, as it's not a natural trait.
Both genders excel at different things.
I believe, that there are many good reasons why, there's has never been a draft and mandatory service for women. I won't discuss 'm, but will give a couple of hypothetical examples to be contemplated.
Buy a flock of roosters to produce eggs, and observe the results.
Ask the opinion of our fighting men.
Buy a herd of bulls for milk production, and observe their behavior at miking time.
I don't believe, that women, although they are willing and eager to help fight wars should be subjected to the terrors, and wounds of combat, nor should they distract the fighting men.
I've given my sincere opinion, about my belief, that was gained by my training. Furthermore, I merely want to protect our fair ladies.
Now that I've insulted, and alienated most of the folks of the 'Big Blue', I'll just have to sit back and suffer the consequences.
My apology to all.
Chubbo
This is my candid opinion of the good behavior, of young humans. And that includes both genders. This is my belief; it's best to start good behavior training at birth.
Good behavior can only be achieved by training, as it's not a natural trait.
Both genders excel at different things.
I believe, that there are many good reasons why, there's has never been a draft and mandatory service for women. I won't discuss 'm, but will give a couple of hypothetical examples to be contemplated.
Buy a flock of roosters to produce eggs, and observe the results.
Ask the opinion of our fighting men.
Buy a herd of bulls for milk production, and observe their behavior at miking time.
I don't believe, that women, although they are willing and eager to help fight wars should be subjected to the terrors, and wounds of combat, nor should they distract the fighting men.
I've given my sincere opinion, about my belief, that was gained by my training. Furthermore, I merely want to protect our fair ladies.
Now that I've insulted, and alienated most of the folks of the 'Big Blue', I'll just have to sit back and suffer the consequences.
My apology to all.
Chubbo
Reminds me of posts on this forum where the poster laments that their kids are all anti gun and he has no one to give his collection to.
Did you take your kids shooting? Frequently?
Did you explain the necessity of the right to Keep and Bear Arms?
Did you explain, over and over, about natural law and "inalienable rights endowed by their Creator"?
Did you take time to explain the workings and failings of this Constitutional Republic?
Or did you let your kids be raised by Tik Tok, YouTube and the Public Schools?
America is reaping what they've sown, that's for sure.
I paid twice for a private education, Once in taxes, once in tuition. So I drive a 20year old car and never have money for "nice things". Best investment I ever made.
All my kids are competent shooters and have no animosity for firearms. The oldest is getting out of the Navy and his little brother is employed in a skilled trade. The next six are on their way to being good responsible citizens.
Clearly worth the expense.
