I just bought several boxes of this at a good price. Anyone have any direct experience with it? Accuracy, effectiveness?
Federal Ranger 9mm 115 gr. +P+
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Do you mean Winchester Ranger 115+P+? If so, I have shot a fair amount of it. Accurate enough for SD/Duty, never bench rested it. It used to be the duty load of the Illinois State Police for a number of years and I think it performed well enough for them. There may be some retired ISP troopers, or ISP troopers that have been on a while, on this Forum that could speak with more knowledge or experience on the matter. The ISP switched to the .40 several years ago.
Federal also makes the 115 JHP+P+ (stock #9BPLE). Both it and the Win. load are comparable and are arguably one of the best 9mm loads, escpecially compared to other 115 gr. loads. Both were very popular with LE agencies in the '90's and have exhibited very effective stopping power. Not the latest technology but still very viable for SD/LE. Price is usually right also.
OP
Yes, of course it was Winchester, not Federal. My brain took a short vacation, apparently. Thanks for the replies, I'll be trying this out at the range soon in my Browning HPs.
Ranger or Ranger-T? Winchester has been packaging Win USA/White box in Ranger boxes, minus the "T". If it's not "T", it's the conventional USA JHP bullet in a brass case. Ranger-T uses the updated Talon bullet and nickel plated cases.
Real Ranger-T is excellent ammo, clean, low flash powder, accurate and the enhanced SXT (Talon) bullets reputation is one of the best. I use it occasionally at the range. Expensive and can be a little hard to find though.
If you need another source let me know.
OP
This one:
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I'll be interested to hear how you like this load. When I carry a 9x19 (like today) it is almost always loaded with RA9TA, which is the 127gr. +P+ Ranger-T load. I have gotten nothing but stellar results with this load, in everything from myKahr K-9 to my Glocks. I've wondered about the 115gr. load.
OP
I'll let you know. I generally prefer the heavier-bullet loads myself, and have carried the Federal 147 gr. quite a bit. I got a good buy on this ammo and decided to try it.
That's repackaged Winchester USA, ^ not a T load.This one:
In 9mm there is no 115gr in the (true) Ranger T-Series.
Here's the one you should be looking for (or the +p+ RA9TA) - notice the "T"" after the product number and bullet weight - that tells you it's the Talon type bullet with the nickel plated case:
Also comes in 147gr.
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The best two loads that Winchester makes in 9mm is the RA9T and RA9124TP.
147gr RA9T: Winchester Ranger T 147gr 9mm at G&R Tactical
124gr +P RA9124TP: Winchester Ranger T 124gr 9mm + P at G&R Tactical
I personally carry both those loads (as does the FBI and most LE agencies).
C4
147gr RA9T: Winchester Ranger T 147gr 9mm at G&R Tactical
124gr +P RA9124TP: Winchester Ranger T 124gr 9mm + P at G&R Tactical
I personally carry both those loads (as does the FBI and most LE agencies).
C4
Badkarma 1
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Uh about that Hi-Power, I hope it's a Mark 3 version as most of the older Hi-Powers aren't rated for +P or +P+! That said if it is a Mk.3 Stephen Camp did an excellent write up on his Hi-Powers and Hanguns site where he went into the whole +P, +P+ use in Hi-Powers. Here's the site: Hi Powers and Handguns
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Good accuracy and functioning out of my Glock 19. Runs about 1330fps out of a 4" barrel. In wet phone book testing, excessive fragmentation when compared to HST, Gold Dots, and 127 +p+ Rangers.
Did you check the penetration? Just curious.
OP
One of my Hi-Powers is a MK III. The other is not but has heavier than stock springs and recoil buffer. I won't/wouldn't feed either a steady diet of this, but would/will carry it in my guns. Also have a XD-9.
Not sure what is meant by "law enforcement ammunition" in this context. It's available to law enforcement and civilians alike. Point is, if it doesn't say XST or Ranger T, it's a conventional hollow point with a brass case and not the infamous Talon bullet.
It is "law enforcement ammunition" as Winchester sells it to their law enforcement distributors and not directly to the civilian market. Sure, some of it finds its way there but not directly from Winchester. No, it is not the T-series bullet, or SXT (not XST). Also, it is loaded to +P+ pressures which you will not find on the civilian market from any of the larger manufacturers.
I suppose Winchester can take any consumer grade cartridge (which they do) including +p+ loads, put it in a Ranger box with the "T" omitted and marked law enforcement ammunition, then sell it as law enforcement ammunition to law enforcement ammo distributors.
I have no problem finding Ranger 115 gr +P+ -- 50 rds - 9mm +P+ 115 grain Winchester Ranger JHP ammo RA9115HP+ | SGAmmo.com
They do the same with Ranger law enforcement branded, standard pressure 9mm 115gr JHP which is repackaged USA ammo.
Winchesters ammunition technical dept. will even tell you this.
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