Shockwave, beyond the bugout.

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Okay, we have established the Mossberg Shockwave is a cool home defense and bugout shotty. They are cool and handy, but what happens when all 'ell breaks loose and you have to think long term protection and food gathering. What are the capabilities of the Shockwave for sustaining a food supply, if say you only had the little shotty tucked safely in the trunk and were not able to get home for your main supplies? I've seen videos of guys shooting clays quite successfully and then I ran across this video ... hunting ... deer ... What says you ??? I found this an educational piece. The Shockwave beyond the cool toy in the safe. Capable within its limits.
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Shockwave is a toy, much like the Taurus Judge. No better than the pistol grip "cruiser" shotguns. Hard to fire accurately in a defense situation, where you need to aim a shotgun as accurately as a rifle.

Dump these movie-props and get a shotgun with a stock.
 
Shockwave is a toy, much like the Taurus Judge. No better than the pistol grip "cruiser" shotguns. Hard to fire accurately in a defense situation, where you need to aim a shotgun as accurately as a rifle.

Dump these movie-props and get a shotgun with a stock.

I thought the same thing, until I shot one. Have you?

They aren’t for everyone. If you watched the video in the OP you’ll see you have to raise them to eye level, aim, and shoot. Then they work great. I wouldn’t have thought to hunt deer with mine, but the guy in the video did fine with his.

Thanks for posting the video. Very informative.
 
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Sits by the side of the bed, with a Crimson Trace green laser. Even my wife, has been getting rather accurate with it. Just takes a bit of practice. We've shot many types of ammo through it, including the various mini-shells. Size wise, I think it's great!
 
Having now run a fair amount through a 590 shockwave, they're godawful until you put a brace on it. I can understand them in situations where you want a shotgun for whatever reason but space is incredibly limited, but if this is chilling in your trunk or by your bedside, just get a stocked 18" old 870 or wingmaster.
 
I struggle to think of a scenario which would make one a good "trunk gun."

A home defense gun, particularly with something to aid aiming from the hip (laser), sure.
 
Shockwave is a toy, much like the Taurus Judge. No better than the pistol grip "cruiser" shotguns. Hard to fire accurately in a defense situation, where you need to aim a shotgun as accurately as a rifle.

Dump these movie-props and get a shotgun with a stock.

Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch doesn’t seem to think it’s a toy. It may seem like a toy to someone who has never shot one or to someone who hasn’t shot one the correct way. About as good as most home defense guns. Here’s an excellent video of Clint showing how to operate a Shockwave or Remington TAC-14.

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I like both of mine. I bought the 20 gauge first. Then went back for the 12. Have lasers on both. Keep them in clarinet cases.


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First off, these shotguns are illegal where I live anyway, so my opinion doesn't matter at all.
However, I saw this video where Ian and Karl from Inrange are comparing short vs long shotguns, which I found to be quite interesting :


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In the event of SHTF day, I have several hacksaws if I redally need a short shotgun and in the event of SHTF the BATF if going to be low on my list.

Another thing all you gonna live off the land types. The natives in this countrry were very good at it, there were about 99.9 percent less of them than the current population. Some of them starved.

All the city people who plan on heading to the county. Let me ask you this. Things are tight, its dog eat dog. There are some good old boys that been there for years and then you, Joe city. Who is going to be unwelcome? Kinda like a Crow deciding to go camp out in Blackfoot country. They are not going to welcome you with open arms.

If I ever had to go live off the land a shock wave wouldn't be on my list anywhere. Ammo is heavy. 22 lr are light. For the weight of a Shockwave and 100 rounds of ammo, I can have 50 or more small cable snares that will hunt for me 24/7. A small folding shovel weighs less and I could dig a ton of cattail roots with it.

What you say defensive. Some piles of gravel strategically placed around my perimeter all containing a charge of black powder and some speaker wire.
 
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I've got the Shokwave in 12 & 20 and they are handy for certain situations and a lot more accurate then most people believe. The original poster's video is very well made and I enjoyed it. Thanks.
The fellow making the video knows the gun, it's ammunition and his limitations which makes all the difference.
 
So we pay $350 or so for Shockwave and another $200 for a brace. Why not just buy a regular shotgun?

In effect a brace turns it into a short barrel shotgun. I guess my point is that is the extra cost really worth it?

$200 ? I picked up my brace kit for $90 on sale.

Even if it was $200, that would be the same price as the tax in order to get a permission slip.
 
First off I'm not a shotgun guy...... but do have several Mossberg and O/U.

I'm with Steelslaver on this one...... while they look coooool some may even say Tacticoool..... but

At 26.37" OAL is only 8" shorter than my Mossberg 510 youth model.....like Steelslaver if I'm faced with the SHTF/TEOTWAWKI/Zombies I can knock off a quick 7".

At 27.37 it's only 3 inches shorter than my Beretta CX4 which has a 20 (or30) round magazine.

Even my Winchester Trapper is only 34" and it holds 9+1 .357s


If you like them fine........ as a survival self-defense weapon..... it would be way down on my list.

Following up of Steelslaver comment. City folk heading to Penn's woods had better know the folks where they are going ...... cus unless they are recognized through a 10 power scope...... I suspect all greeting will be....... delivered well beyond the range of a Shockwave!!!!!! :D
 
Contrary to what certain ignorant folks who honestly shouldn't comment on such things will mindlessly repeat until the end of time, Short Barrel =/= Poor Accuracy.

Firearms with short barrels are certainly less accurate at long range when compared directly with the exact same firearm with a longer barrel, but even then the difference in most cases is extremely marginal, hence why a direct comparison is required to even notice the difference.
Oh, and I should add that such differences in accuracy are typically best noted when comparing extremely different barrel lengths like a 1.75" snubby barrel vs a 7.5" barrel, or an 18" barrel vs a 30" barrel. Not a 14" barrel vs an 18" barrel.

I must admit that I find it amusingly ironic that certain folks constantly choose to write off short-barreled shotguns as things which are only effective in movies, yet they seem to be under the impression that the massive spread that comes out the barrel of shortguns often shown in movies is 100% accurate based on their comments in regards to the accuracy of said firearms.

Also, I love the complete absence of common sense coming from these people... Honestly, Police and the Military have been using shotguns with even shorter barrels than that of the Shockwave to great effect for decades, but apparently they're just useless gimmicks that are objectively inferior in any given situation to your typical shotgun with a stock and a measly 4" of barrel length. Oh well, I suppose the Military/LE just doesn't know any better... If only the Military/LE had the vast amount of experience shooting firearms as the average opinionated forum-goer...
No seriously, that wasn't sarcasm, I'm sure that if the Military/LE had only fired shotguns with 18"+ barrels then they too would make the hasty supposition that a shotgun with a 14" barrel is completely inaccurate/worthless. On second thought, nevermind...Only a complete buffoon would think that shortening a shotgun's barrel by a mere 4" would render it completely inaccurate.

Last but not least, I've said this before and I'll say it as many times as necessary, anyone who refers to a firearm as a toy in a derogatory sense shouldn't own a firearm, nor should they have children because they lack the proper respect and knowledge of the objective lethality of all firearms. Honestly, if that's how you feel, then you might as well go sell your firearms and put your kids up for adoption because you're clearly not mature enough to be trusted with either.
Oh but there is another option, grow up. Stop acting like an ignorant child who constantly injects his opinion on matters he doesn't understand into discussions between folks who know better. The grown ups are talking, and if you want to join in then you need to know what you're talking about. Until then, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done until approximately one minute for each year you've walked the Earth has passed, then either go get educated or go play with the other boys who call deadly weapons toys.
 

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