Hi-Point firearms ?

BLACKHAWKNJ · Aug 12, 2020

Anyone here have any. They are seen as "cheap" but incredibly reliable. On another board some pointed out that if you have to use one for home defense and the police take it for "evidence" you won't be "Cryin' the Blues" the way you would if they took your prize AR-15.

always_an_eagle · Aug 12, 2020

I got one. Once of the first rifles I bought with my FID card in NJ when I was 20. I was a broke college student looking to buy a rifle before the
2016 election. It has been reliable with me, I can hit what I am aiming at with the stock sights and has a great warranty. Two years ago I got the high tower armory bullpup stock for the high point which was a big improvement, and if you ever want a bullpup, it is the cheapest way to get into bullpups.

dmthomp32 · Aug 12, 2020

From those who have them say this when I ask:
The carbines perform better than the pistols.
The pistols are okay as long as you don't run a lot of rounds through them. However they have lots of quirks like strange recoil impulse (lot of mass in the slide?). But in the end they have a great level of service and a warranty to cover you should anything go wrong.

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Bladeswitcher · Aug 12, 2020

Poor people need to be able to defend themselves, too, you know . . .

Seriously, the Hi-Point pistols are big, clunky, inelegant, crude and ugly. They also have terrible trigger and are a PITA to disassemble for cleaning. Other than those things, what's not to like? They're cheap, reliable and have a lifetime no-questions-asked warranty.

Full disclosure: I own one of the 9mm carbines, though I've only shot it a couple of times. Seems like it would be a great home defense gun for non-gun people.

More full disclosure: I used to own a pawn shop and sold a ton of Hi-Points. I loved them because it was one of the few new guns you could make any money on. I'd buy the pistols wholesale for $120 and sell them for $180. Easy $60. That's roughly the same profit I'd make on a new $450 Smith and Wesson (not margin, but total profit). I'd buy used pistols for $75 or loan $60. They'd go in the used gun case for $135 or so and sell like hotcakes. I never worried about buying used ones because Hi-Point would fix them if ever there was a problem. Loved those things! Wish I had kept one of the used pistols for my own use.

Eddietruett · Aug 12, 2020

I have 2 of the older carbines. The ones with the solid stock. We around here call them "monkey guns" because they were used in one of the big movies. I think it was Planet of the Apes but could have been another one. Mine run great. Dont think I've ever had a misfeed. Fairly accurate especially for a $250 gun Will easily shoot a 1" group at 25 yards and we have a torso size steel silhouette at 100 yards that is a piece of cake to hit with every shot. Wish they came with mags that hold more than 10 rounds, but you can get 20 round aftermarket mags. The older ones didn't come with sights and mine have cheap red dots but are fun to play around with. Ironically, the most accurate ammo in both of mine is TulAmmo Steel Case 115gr. Cheapest gun with cheapest ammo. Hope to find a 45acp soon.

MyDads38 · Aug 12, 2020

I've shot one of the 9c pistols, they do have a different feel/impulse during recoil. With the warranty, I would be comfortable buying one, if it was all I could afford. FWIW, for just a little more money, you could have a SCCY CPX-2 9mm. I've shot one of those also. I could get used to the trigger pull on the SCCY, easier than the recoil impulse on the Hi-Point; but that's just my opinion.

OKFC05 · Aug 12, 2020

I was an IDPA match director for 16 years, and every HI Point used at the local matches broke within a year; not made for the heavy use over the long haul. And the company fixed everything for free. Great warranty and service.
Many of the failures were major components, like broken slides. They put new slides on them and sent them back. Sometimes they replaced almost everything on the gun, but no charge.
The people who wanted to keep shooting IDPA usually bought used Glocks or S&W Sigmas, which were durable under heavy use and easier to shoot .

Bladeswitcher · Aug 12, 2020

Eddietruett said:
I have 2 of the older carbines. The ones with the solid stock. We around here call them "monkey guns" because they were used in one of the big movies. I think it was Planet of the Apes but could have been another one . . .

I can picture the guns in the movie, but I'm pretty sure they weren't Hi-Points. The movie came out in 1968 and Hi-Point wasn't a company until the early '90s.

According to the internet, the Planet of the Apes guns were modified M1 carbines . . . Planet of the Apes (1968 - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games)

RobertJ. · Aug 12, 2020

Here's a review of the renowned High Point C45:[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q13FUvzmGVQ[/ame]

robvious · Aug 12, 2020

had a friend sell his PPK 380... had a few thousand reloads but no gun.. he got a Hi-Point in 380 and 5 magazines... he and his son put about 3,000 mixed reloads and miscellaneous SD loads thew it in 4 range days over about 3 weeks... their thumbs hurt from loading magazines... it worked flawlessly... and then he sold it for what he paid... I got my son a Hi-Point Carbine... mostly because it reminded me of the Planet of the Apes gun... and I know if there are any issues they will be taken care of... the rifle was used and the previous owner sent it in after he dropped it and something popped off.. came back in 2 weeks with stickers and 2 extra magazines... no charge...
and if you want proof its tough check out the Demolition Ranch you tube videos...
looks like the gun can't be broken...

Rammer Jammer · Aug 13, 2020

I've got a 9mm carbine. Reliable, accurate, great warranty if needed and excellent for training new shooters on. If they drop it or bang it up in any way it can't get much uglier.

CB3 · Aug 13, 2020

I've had a camo stocked 9mm carbine since the late 90's. I have thousands of rounds through it.

Only hicupped with an aftermarket hi-cap mag.

Other than that it's fun, easy to shoot, reliable, close range accurate, and one of my go-to guns for moving young or new shooters up to center fire. We use it just like a .22 for plinking—soda cans, golf balls, 2-liter water filled bottles, ground based clay targets.

Only drawback to me is low capacity. I have a cheap laser on mine which makes it even more fun, especially at an indoor range in the winter.

sigp220.45 · Aug 13, 2020

I bought a new C9 at a police supply place for 35 bucks a couple of years ago. I've only put about 100 rounds through it, but it worked fine. I drove a nail into the wall in my garage next to the door into the house and its been hanging there ever since.

Lonegle57 · Aug 13, 2020

Bought a carbine in 40 a number of years ago, used, for grins and giggles.Cut off the rear of the hollow stock an older model, camo, and filled it with wood and then put a rubber recoil pad on it. Scoped it,bought a few extra mags and is now a basement gun. The wife enjoys shooting it and she tends to be recoil sensitive. Have it zeroed at 50 yards, shoots well,and brings the grins to the wife when she burns ammo.

stansdds · Aug 13, 2020

Cheap? Yes.
Reliable? Yes.
Attractive? No.

The first time I saw one my reaction was "and I thought Glocks were ugly!" They do work as intended, but they are ugly pistols.

Bladeswitcher · Aug 13, 2020

The NRA did a good article on the Hi-Point . . . American Rifleman | Hi-Point Firearms And The Man Behind Them

Bladeswitcher · Aug 13, 2020

If I were ever to buy another one, I would want it to be money . . . cracks me up, that the cheapest low-life gun you can buy is covered with $100 bills. It's perfect.

OLDSTER · Aug 13, 2020

Not all folks who want a handgun for SD can afford $500 plus for a pistol or revolver. Hi Point provides people a reliable, well made pistol at an economical price.

Pondoro · Aug 13, 2020

The Walther PPX worked great but was redesigned. The Walther forums had all excoriated it. The detractors said it was "cheap", the fans said, "It works but it looks like a Hi Point."

Oldsalt66 · Aug 13, 2020

The incredible reliability" of these simple blowback pistols is more myth than fact, but the company does stand behind the product, although that won't do anyone much good in the event the slide breaks when they need the pistol most.

I'd recommend that anyone who's short on cash but needs a handgun, buy a used example from a reputable manufacturer like S&W.

Of course these days good guns, new or used, at decent prices are difficult to find.

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