Colt AR value?

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I'm not much of an AR guy, so I need a bit of help. I've got a chance to buy a Colt AR-15 A2 style rifle. I've only seen a picture of it. No idea of the model number. 20" barrel, molded in carry handle, solid stock, round hand guards. Rifle is in excellent shape. Has been shot, but not much. Owner says it haven't been out of his safe for years. Can y'all get me into the ball park on a fair price?
 
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I'm not much of an AR guy, so I need a bit of help. I've got a chance to buy a Colt AR-15 A2 style rifle. I've only seen a picture of it. No idea of the model number. 20" barrel, molded in carry handle, solid stock, round hand guards. Rifle is in excellent shape. Has been shot, but not much. Owner says it haven't been out of his safe for years. Can y'all get me into the ball park on a fair price?

Is it a pre-ban gun? (prior to the 1994 bill).

you can get the serial and look it up in a lot of places.

A good way to know approximate current price is to check out what they are going for on gunbroker. The pre-ban guns especially have been rising big time in the last several years. They go for 1500 and up now. More than likely over 2k.
 
Brand new current production = $1200-plus.

Colt SP1 = $2000 to $3500

Colt HBAR = $1500-plus

That from Completed Auctions on Gunbroker.

Now’s NOT a time to buy an AR unless you just GOTTA and money is not a problem.
 
Likely a Blue Label 6601- lacks bayo lug. Can you find out if it has the sear block in the lower receiver? $1500 is ballpark for one of those.
 
It is marked Sporter and does not have a bayonet lug. I couldn't find an exact manufacture date. But I did find a list that says this serial number is pre-ban.
 
Between 1990-94 then...you can call Colt and they could provide you with a ship date if you really wanted to know.
 
I’d say anything from $1,200 that $1,500 that you and the seller are comfortable with is fair. I’d personally buy the Rock River equivalent before I’d pay more than a modest premium for a Colt.
 
An "HB" serial number strikes me as being a pre-ban green-label Model 6600 AR-15 A2 HBAR Sporter. It should be a square slabside receiver with large take-down pin and no magwell fence or sear block. I'd price it at $1200 or more depending on condition and what the local market will bear, GB nosebleed prices notwithstanding. I'd like to have one. My very first AR is a 1993 Model 6601 Sporter Match HBAR small pin with sear block. It's a great rifle that I have used in CMP service rifle competition for many years.
 
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The 6600s were marked “HBar Sporter” but had SP ser prefixes. Also, while there was some overlap in the production features, the vast majority of 6600s had bayo lugs.
 
I'd say if it's $1500 or under, buy it.

Even a bit over that, you will not lose money.

Minor details do matter....such as lack of bayo lug and maybe the HBAR is less valuable than the standard barrel. Also if it has a pic rail and removable handle that's probably worth less than the integral one. But like I say, you won't lose money.
 
No, I meant what I said, call Colt, they are very much in existence- only owned by CZ now. Colt customer service still exists (at least it did in May).

Colt's Manufacturing LLC

Oh, that's good. I had wondered how it all would work. Thanks for that info!

So you mean they kept all employees etc? The only effect was name change?
 
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I’d assume so. I mean outside of boosting their product offerings (much-needed IMO) they seem to have kept most everything the same. Talked to them in late May about a Green Label A2 AR I have and they were very helpful.
 
Oh, that's good. I had wondered how it all would work. Thanks for that info!

So you mean they kept all employees etc? The only effect was name change?

Well no, the NAME is what they are keeping!

Obviously "Colt" has major league cache all around the world. "CZ" has nowhere near that level of name cred.

The company changed ownership. It's still called "Colt (they'd be crazy to change that name)." It likely will still keep its factories and probably a lot of its employees. It's just owned and run by CZ now. I'm sure there may be some new overseas manufacturing and other changes, obviously.

Think when Winchester was bought by FN. Same deal. That name is worth A TON, especially to the American market.

Although I hate a classic American company like Colt no longer owned by Americans, at least CZ is an actual gun company run by gun people and not a big conglomerate with people better at counting beans than innovating in guns.
 
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The bayonet lug went away at the end of the Sporter 2 green label era, those initially had the Sp1 slabside lower mated to a field site A1 upper then to a A2 rear site upper of which there were several variations.
Can't recall if those ended with a fenced lower but they have the early SP1 large pivot pin with screw head

The one you are describing sounds like its a blue label 6601 "Sporter" series Hbar, early guns will have a threaded barrel with A2 flash suppressor, very early ones have a hole drilled in the raised "fence" on the right side lower receiver for a spring retained takedown pivot pin (although none came with those parts installed), Colt instead chose to use a flat head screw on the end of a non retained small diameter pivot pin.

While the pre ban blue label guns with thread on flash suppressors bring a pretty penny ( most I see go for $2k) they have the larger hammer / trigger pins, pinned in receiver sear block and cut bcg, they are well built rifles but not as good as the earlier ones,

The low point for Colt AR's were made in the Clinton AWB era and first had a pinned on muzzle brake then no muzzle device at all with those bringing the least of all variations

All early Colt ARs have good collectability , the post ban 6920 LE marked A4s are arguably the high water mark as all were built from milspec USGI parts.
Current production 6920 rifles look the same but are built from a mishmash of sub contracted parts that may or may not be milspec.

On a side not IIRC it was the entry of Bushmaster (Windham Ma) entering the arena and offering a true A2 copy that forced Colt to start eliminating all the Clinton era stupidity.

Here is a link to episode 1 of 4 that details the evolution,

The Colt AR-15 Sporter I Series Evolution - YouTube

The 6601 should be in the beginning of episode 3 here

Colt Sporter Series, Part 3 - YouTube
 
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I noticed that this rifle has the screw type front receiver pin. I've also heard a bit about different sized pins for various parts. And possible differences in other parts as well. Is this good or bad?
 
I had to look it up because I couldn't remember, I bought my Colt AR6721 in 2013 new for $920...It's still in the box with the original packing, papers, magazine, etc...I bought an additional ten 20 round and fifteen 30 round Magpul mags just so I'll have them...If SHTF I have about 500 rounds of 55 grain FMJ stashed back, but if that happens I'd still have to wash the cosmoline out of it first, so that might slow me up a bit...

I have no idea what it could be sold for in today's panic-driven climate...:eek:...Ben
 
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