Pump shotgun recommendations?

I shot Rem 870s for 30 + years. A few years back I bought a Mossberg 500, and I have to admit, the controls are placed much better and easier to acquire.
I am a lefty, and I switched the safety over to a Fortmann left hand safety on all my Remingtons, 552, 870 and 1100.

But the Mossberg top tang safety, and slide release closer to the trigger finger make sense. The Mossberg comes with more chokes and a dual extractor, (although the single extractor on an 870 never let me down).

My current quail/defense gun combo is not a pump though, it is an older 1100 that I shortened and had re-threaded for chokes.
It has a +3 Choate extension and a Meprolight tritium white front bead.
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Like RpG suggested, if you can buy an older pump like a Winchester Model 12, you can have it shortened a bit if you don't like a 28" or 30" fixed choke barrel, and there are several places that can thread it for chokes cheaply.

I had Bob day of Americhoke in So Cal do mine, it was about $140 for shortening, facing, threading and D&T for the new bead.
There is a guy in New England named Mike Orlen that is highly recommended that only charges around $40 to thread a barrel, and he does the other stuff too.

One thing I wish I'd have spent the extra money on is having the forcing cone ahead of the chamber polished and lengthened. They change the angle to a more gentle one and polish the cone.
That causes less wad deformation and gives better patterns, also the plastic wads don't gum up the barrel as bad.
When I clean my barrel there is a lot of plastic wad junk just ahead of the chamber to remove.
 
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As above. I have a Browning BPS for hunting, but an old cop 870 for the house. I even got a Remington Express barrel for hunting for it. The fit is fine, has the chokes, but I only shoot 2 3/4 shells in it, as the receiver is the older style. If the shot gun is going to used quite a bit, I would shop for a new gun in either of the above. Just occasional use, go with a used 870.
 
I vote for a older Remington 870 if you find one for a good price. I recently bought a nice Marlin model 120 for $250.00 but you don't see them often, If you do grab it they are a little heavier than the 870 but well built shotguns and go cheap most days. I have my dads Remington 870 12 gauge that has been in the family over 60 years and never failed other than a replacement firing pin about 30 years ago.
 
My first recommendation is YES, GET ONE.

My second comment is that both the vintage Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series offer excellent quality at reasonable prices with dozens of easily adaptable options for just about any possible use.

In the Army we had Winchester 1897 and Winchester Model 12 shotguns. As a cop I kind of "grew up" with the Remington 870, and that is what I have stuck with for many years.

The last shotgun in my house (9 grandchildren, so shotguns and .22 rifles seem to grow legs) is an older Remington 870 "Sportsman 12" variant, probably 1980's or so, parkerized finish, plain walnut stock, 3" chamber 12-gauge, with 21" vent-rib RemChoke barrel. I have choke tubes in IC, Mod, Full, and a Hastings Extra Full Turkey Choke. I added QD swivels and a leather sling. It does everything from doves and quail to pheasants and waterfowl, small game to deer if necessary, and serves daily as the house defense shotgun (2-3/4" mag loads of BB-shot with the IC choke tube). With the Hastings turkey choke tube installed it has won every turkey shoot I have attended, even when shooting against high-dollar custom trap guns.

Nothing fancy, just plain walnut and bead-blasted parkerized finish. It is a "do everything well" shotgun.
 
I had an eye-opening experience that made me put my 590A1 up for sale. During drills with artificially induced stress, I would very often FORGET to pump the shotgun. :eek:

When I thought about it I realized that none of my other self-defense guns required any pumping or levering. Point and shoot.

On the recommendation of someone I trust, I picked up the FN SLP for home defense.

FN SLP™ | FN(R)


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Most the folks that have responded to this have no clue how many is a lot of rounds through a shotgun. We ran at Battalion Schools for instruction in use of the Combat Shotgun. Each and every week a new class went through, year after year. The course was three days long and consisted of 350 rounds of 00 Buck and slug. A lot of times we gave the students extra rounds to fire the drills. The shotguns used were Mossberg 500's, in all the time I was there only two went down and had to be disassembled. Those were because the students had loaded their rounds in backwards. This works out to about 17,000 rounds per gun.

My personal shotgun is a Remington 870 Express that I have had since 1988(IIRC). It has been set up as an USMC M870 Mk1. This gun has about 10,000 rounds through it. Will put it up against any pump shotgun out there.
 

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No mention of a S&W M-3000, mfg by Howa Japan and far as I'm concerned at least the equal of a old Wingmaster 870.
 
To me the benelli nova is the most butt ugly plastic shotgun ever built. And mossbergs feel like a 2x4 in my hands. My taste run to better and refined shotguns such as the Winchester mdl 12. The Ithaca mdl 37. The Remington mdl 31 and the Remington 870. The 870 being the cheapest. By one and be happy.......There will always be 870 parts(if you ever need them) out there.........BTW my 12 ga mdl 12 was made in 1917. All I have ever replaced on it is 1 ejector spring.............Quality last.
 
To me the benelli nova is the most butt ugly plastic shotgun ever built. And mossbergs feel like a 2x4 in my hands. My taste run to better and refined shotguns such as the Winchester mdl 12. The Ithaca mdl 37. The Remington mdl 31 and the Remington 870. The 870 being the cheapest. By one and be happy.......There will always be 870 parts(if you ever need them) out there.........BTW my 12 ga mdl 12 was made in 1917. All I have ever replaced on it is 1 ejector spring.............Quality last.

Concise, accurate, and very well said.
 
To me the benelli nova is the most butt ugly plastic shotgun ever built. And mossbergs feel like a 2x4 in my hands. My taste run to better and refined shotguns such as the Winchester mdl 12. The Ithaca mdl 37.

Very nice but too pricey for a 20 year old. Seems like a Mossberg is the best bet to get out in the field. An 870 with all the extra stuff is a little too much at this point.

Thanks everyone, all good recommendations!
 
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Glad to see the Browning BPS getting recommended. I wanted to say something but since I haven't shot it yet due to some health issues, I kept quiet. I bought it a couple of months ago when I saw it in a local shop. It was new old stock and I was really impressed with its quality. One drawback might be that from what I see on their website, the factory only offers 26" or 28" barrels. That may be a little long for your purposes.

It's made for Browning by Miroku in Japan if that matters. Fit and finish is perfect. As soon as I am able, I will see how capable it is for crow control duty.
 
870 hands down. They made millions of these and there are a lot of parts around should you need fixes. Any gunsmith can fix these in his/her sleep and you can do most things yourself with very little learning. They wear like iron balance well and shoot like hell. Cannot go wrong.
 
Winchester 120? 1200, 1300, 1400?

First check on the availability of different barrels. I have a maverick and a few different barrels, a 28” mod, a 30” full, a 18” riot barrels.

Barrels are tough to get too.
 
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