You can count me among the breakfast bros having a good laugh at your expense.
Dozen armed with guns protest Obama's speech
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You can count me among the breakfast bros having a good laugh at your expense.
WHAT!!
Not you.
Say it ain't so!
Nah,,,,I'm just kidding.
I figured all along you were one of them free coffee drinkers that lurk at Micky D's waiting for the doors to open everyday with yesterday's cup in your hand.
Bullseye 2620
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I counted up the "votes" on this thread. The unit of measure is individuals, not posts. I think we're all pretty much agreed that "one man, one vote" is a good idea.
Members who think the Colorado and New Hampshire armed protesters advanced the cause of 2A rights and support them: 8
Members who think the Colorado and New Hampshire armed protesters hurt the cause of 2A rights and do not support them: 25
That's a 75% to 25% majority in favor of not shooting ourselves in the foot.
By the way, attached are two photos of the tactical Ninja gun Willy was screaming about that I openly carry, when I openly carry.
I counted up the "votes" on this thread. The unit of measure is individuals, not posts. I think we're all pretty much agreed that "one man, one vote" is a good idea.
Members who think the Colorado and New Hampshire armed protesters advanced the cause of 2A rights and support them: 8
Members who think the Colorado and New Hampshire armed protesters hurt the cause of 2A rights and do not support them: 25
That's a 75% to 25% majority in favor of not shooting ourselves in the foot.
By the way, attached are two photos of the tactical Ninja gun Willy was screaming about that I openly carry, when I openly carry.
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By the way, attached are two photos of the tactical Ninja gun Willy was screaming about that I openly carry, when I openly carry.
Good heavens, that's hideous!
Oh. Wait.
Nevermind.
bk43
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The militant, "rub their face in it" crowd is so vocal it often seems they are the majority and all is lost when it comes to RKBA. I really enjoy seeing something like this. There is hope! Thanks for adding those numbers up.
Bob
I counted up the "votes" on this thread. The unit of measure is individuals, not posts. I think we're all pretty much agreed that "one man, one vote" is a good idea.
Members who think the Colorado and New Hampshire armed protesters advanced the cause of 2A rights and support them: 8
Members who think the Colorado and New Hampshire armed protesters hurt the cause of 2A rights and do not support them: 25
That's a 75% to 25% majority in favor of not shooting ourselves in the foot.
By the way, attached are two photos of the tactical Ninja gun Willy was screaming about that I openly carry, when I openly carry.
What group did you include me in?
And which group did you decide you would be in -today-?
I hope I made myself clear and you understood that I was in favor of open carry.
So that puts me in the minority.
Good thing we live in a REPUBLIC and not a DEMOCRACY or I might be in trouble!
BTW- Nice picture of the carry gun.
But your confused AGAIN!
I never mentioned ANYTHING about your carry gun or any other gun you may have.
Are you even sure that's your gun?
I couldn't make out any coffee stains on it from the picture.
thomashoward
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I'm sorry and saddened buy some of the replies here.If you do not exercise your rights expect to lose them. What are you worried about? I feel the people that did the open carry had the courage of their convictions.I wonder if you will fold and give up you rights when public opinion runs against you.
Maybe they have bigger gonads. I want them on my side ,not the appeasers
After reading the whole thread it seems the anti's don't have to worry.You will destroy yourselves
Maybe they have bigger gonads. I want them on my side ,not the appeasers
After reading the whole thread it seems the anti's don't have to worry.You will destroy yourselves
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shortranger
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Exactly how does that work? If I carry concealed instead of openly, I lose my 2A rights? If I hold my tongue and don't explain to someone why they are being the back end of a horse, I lose my 1A rights? If I don't go down to the local recruiting office and tell them they can't live in my house, I lose my 3A rights? ...
Rights are passive. Even people who've never held a gun have the right to keep and bear arms whether they choose to exercise it or not.
David
bk43
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Your rights are not what you happen to think they are. Your rights are what the government(that's the politicians and courts) say they are at any given time.
This is the way it's always been and is the way it always will be. Deal with it.
Bob
Just because everyone doesn't enjoy owning and shooting full auto weapons doesn't mean they will ever be outlawed to where you will need a special permit to own one.
No need for shotguns with barrels less than 18"
Or rifles with barrels less than 16"
Or butt stocks on handguns.
Or smooth bore handguns.
The public doesn't see any of these weapons and decides there is no use for them.
So when a law comes up to ban them.
There is no public out cry!
The sheeple believe the government, when told only criminals use these weapons.
And having no exposer to them, the sheeple see no reason for the ownership of them.
So we end up with the gun control act of 1934 ,plus another hit on gun owners in 1968.
And the sheeple do nothing.
Except give up their guns.
BK43
We have butted heads over a few things before but not this time.
(1)You are right on this count. Infact our rights have been reduced to mere privileges.
(2)Sad to say but this is also 100% true.
(3)We differ on this one.
At one time the government -WAS -by, and for, the people.
(4)Maybe with the TEA PARTIES and town hall meetings we won't have to deal with it anymore.
Maybe there is a chance of taking this country back for the people.
shortranger
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Rhetoric. Those "sheeple" didn't have guns in the first place, so they gave up nothing. Their failure to understand the importance of RKBA is your fault because you are telling them they have to do something they don't want to do in order to preserve a right they have no intention of exercising. Why don't you go educate them...start the "Willy's School of Proper Right Exercising" or something?
David
thomashoward
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Its too bad so many people are willing to accept this (get used to it?) I don't think so. People you need to stiffen up your spine and not accept being diminished.Work with the NRA, email bomb your representatives. Do everything you can to be a pain to Lawmakers that have an anti gun agenda or you will see the day your Second Amendment rights get watered down to what you have "gotten used to"
(1)They may have owned guns, just not the ones mentioned.
(2)My fault????
(3)EXACTLY!!! Now your catching on.
Like in thomashoward's post "If you don't exercise your rights you lose them"
The same as the duck hunter saying '"As long as they don't try taking away my shotgun I'm ok with gun control. Can't hunt duck with an AK47 anyhow!"
Mr. Duck Hunter has no desire for a full auto weapon so he has no problem with a ban on them.
(4) Good idea!
And being a member of this forum I will give you a discount when you enroll for classes.?
shortranger
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Once again, willy, you have completly missed the point.
You cannot denigrate people for not using something they don't need even though they have a right to do so, and then expect them to support your need for that right. You are essentially trying to prove a negative and it will not work.
Some of the finest people I have known over the years have never owned a gun, never wanted to own a gun, and have no interest in the 2A other than as an intellectual abstract that connects somehow with all of the other rights. Those are the people you need to convince. Raising silly points about people not owning automatic weapons or short barrelled shotguns is pointless. Are you seriously trying to tell me that it is my fault that shotguns with bbls shorter than 18" require a permit, just because I have never owned one?
David
You cannot denigrate people for not using something they don't need even though they have a right to do so, and then expect them to support your need for that right. You are essentially trying to prove a negative and it will not work.
Some of the finest people I have known over the years have never owned a gun, never wanted to own a gun, and have no interest in the 2A other than as an intellectual abstract that connects somehow with all of the other rights. Those are the people you need to convince. Raising silly points about people not owning automatic weapons or short barrelled shotguns is pointless. Are you seriously trying to tell me that it is my fault that shotguns with bbls shorter than 18" require a permit, just because I have never owned one?
David
thomashoward
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Sorry for butting in..... but even if you or I do not ever want a full auto,or a short barreled shotgun,if we have never fought against any pending laws or bills outlawing them, or lobbied our Legislators the YES it is partially your fault.
Bringing up the Nazi analagy "that could never happen here", yes in fact it could,and if you do not voice your opinion loud and clear, yes you are part of the problem
carry on
th
Spotteddog
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I think it might be a bit difficult for someone born either in the late forties, through late fifties to have done much to prevent legislation from being passed under the NFA from the mid 1930's?
YMMV?
YMMV?
No! Not because you never owned one.
But because you don't care.
Maybe you have no need for a barrel less than 18".
So if you don't need one ,,why should -I-( need ) or be allowed to own one?
It's those that don't need or use certain rights that don't care when they are taken away.
And once the government seen they could take a right from Americans.
Then it snowballed into what we have today!
So that is why more people need to see guns being carried by Mr.John Q Citizen in public.
People need to see that guns are not a threat to some in society but a protector of all society.
Spotteddog
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A bit like trying to un-ring a bell, or put smoke back in a bottle, no?
If it's a windmill one's willing to joust with, I wish them good luck and God's speed though. No ones been successful at getting them rescinded in about 3/4 of a century now.
If it's a windmill one's willing to joust with, I wish them good luck and God's speed though. No ones been successful at getting them rescinded in about 3/4 of a century now.
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