Sigma 40 advice please

[Bennett]

I bought a 40VE this week. I like the way it fits my hand, very accurate but as I have been told the trigger is waaaaay to hard to pull.
What does a trigger job entail? Cost, etc? Is it worth it?
I have always had sigs and liked them but sold them and wanted to go to s&w. I want to keep the gun but must do something about the trigger.
HELP!!!!!

 

[chessail 77]

trigger

Did you buy it new or used as the trigger gets much better after about 500 rounds have passed through it. The trigger jobs I have heard about don't seem to improve it much, but you can call customer service and possibly send it back to S&W and they have improved some at no charge.

 

[Bennett]

Sigma advice

I bought it used but it is absolutely like new.
I mag had never had a round in it. Very nice gun.
Thanks for your response. I will contact s&w customer service.
I appreciate the help.

B

 

[dwhite53]

Sw40ve

I've had mine over two years and have been more than satisfied with it. The trigger will get better with use.

Like chessail said, run 500 rounds through it before you try anything with the trigger.

I was reading a post somewhere that said once you master the Sigma with it's heavy trigger you'll find you can shoot any pistol a lot better. I'm a believer.

What did you pay for it? What came with it?

All the Best,
D. White

 

[MK]

If you want a lighter trigger, you would probably be better off
selling the Sigma, and getting another Sig.. :/
Sigmas were never designed to have a light trigger. And much of
that is for safety reasons being as there is no external safety, etc.
The best thing to do is just shoot the @#$% out of it, and get used
to the trigger. You should eventually. Once broke in it's really not
much stiffer than many of the revolvers.
I have one, and I really don't want the trigger any lighter than it is.
My reasoning being, I can shoot it fairly straight as is, so any extra
lightening of the trigger will just reduce safety. It can also reduce
reliability in some cases if certain mods are done.
A Sigma can be shot well as is, once you get used to it.
If you never get used to it, I'd trade it for something else..
I'm just not a big fan of modding the Sigmas for light triggers.
They are defense pistols, not target pistols.. :/
But to each his own..

 

[Mike Boyd]

A just reply to a simple question

I bought a 40VE this week. I like the way it fits my hand, very accurate but as I have been told the trigger is waaaaay to hard to pull.
What does a trigger job entail? Cost, etc? Is it worth it?
I have always had sigs and liked them but sold them and wanted to go to s&w. I want to keep the gun but must do something about the trigger.
HELP!!!!!

You may want to look at this site: S&W .40 Sigma trigger mod - The Firearms Forum.Com

Also, there is plenty of information on this site about improving the trigger on the S&W Sigma. When I bought mine last year, it was a whopping 12#. Sent it to LSG here in TX and they replaced the trigger assembly and it was returned at about 8.5#, better, but still gritty. I then removed the pig tail spring and replaced the outer larger spring with a lighter one. Now it is about 5.5# and we love it!! Almost 700 rounds through it with no issues, shooting all cheap stuff from Wally's, Federal, CCI, and Winchester 180 & 165. My 14 YO Grandson can even shoot 3 inch groups from the 7 yd line with it, free hand standing.

Hope this helps. There are plenty of pictures and other information on the web. This is one of the easiest pistols to open up, clean and respring going. Wolf sells lighter springs for it for less than $5.

Good luck with your new Sigma!!!

 

[OKFC05]

Changing or cutting springs in a Sigma is not recommended if the gun is intended for defense use.
1. Lightening the striker spring can cause misfires.
2. Lightening the sear springs can cause failure to reset with hot defense ammo (think single shot).

Lightening springs is legal for IDPA and usually (not always) works with range ammo.

 

[TDR911]

If it is a carry gun I would not suggest modifying it as it was designed to have a stiff trigger for a reason.
If it is a target pistol Mike Boyd listed a site for mods.
I have a Sigma that I modified as it was intended as a test gun and target pistol. I have done all the mods listed and then some. I also have all the original parts to return it to its original state if it was ever going to be sold.

 

[Walthernut]

Contact LSG in Texas. Tell them it has an extremely heavy trigger pull and they should fix it for nothing. I sent mine back to the factory and they didn't ask me new or used and the trigger came back 200% better.
LSG is a warranty repair station and are known for quick turn around and excellent service.
Don't modify any springs. To do so could make the pistol unsafe for carry in my opinion.
BTW, LSG will most likely foot the bill for shipping.

 

[Bennett]

Thank you gentlemen so very much for the good advice, cautions and opinions. I am sure I would have some bad mistakes had I not gotten your help in this matter.
I am going to contact LSG in Texas and get some help from them. I really do want to keep the gun and probably get a 9 also.
I appreciate your responses.
B

 

[Walthernut]

You might want to read 'Sigma Let Me Down' thread by Gatorhugger.

 

[arg271]

As Walthernut mentioned, LSG is an authorized repair center for S&W. Look in the back of your instruction manual for their phone number. They'll do the job under the lifetime warranty, no cost to you. S&W will even pay for shipping cost (from you to them and back).
I called them a couple of days ago, I spoke to the owner, Frank Smith (he actually answers the phone). Courteous and professional.
I sent my SW40VE just yesterday. Give them a try.

argon

 

[arg271]

I got my SW40VE back a couple of days ago. Sorry to report that trigger pull was not "noticeably" reduced. I tested with an RCBS 8lbs trigger pull scale. It was off-scale when I sent it; it was off-scale when I received it.

argon

 

[dondavis3]

There is a S&W 9mm and .40 sale at Academy Sport & Outdoor and other S&W dealers around the nation.

Their sale of S&W Sigma SW9VE & Sigma SW40VE - says "buy a Sigma from Oct. 1, 2009 through December 31, 2009, and get either a mail-in $50 rebate OR 2 free magazines".

That meant at academy my SW40VE cost me $279 out the door.

There is a hard trigger pull on this gun, but some people actually like it that way.

I don't - but S&W will lighten it for free - and pay the shipping each way.

There were some problems with old Sigma's (5 to 10 years ago), but those problems have all been fixed on the new Sigma's.

I've shot mine and really like the way it handles = No problems with the new ones.

They are a great gun for $279 - $250 + tax for a gun w/lifetime warranty.

Mines on the way to LSG right now - I can't wait to get it back.

 

[jdmdriver8]

I am with arg271 I just got my sigma back from LSG today. And I can honestly say the trigger doesn't feel any "lighter", the reason being is he can only do so much to keep it within factory specs and not void the warrenty. Now that being said the trigger does seem to be more crisp and smooth. I don't feel like I am working to pull up to the break, it is very smooth and then "bang". But like I said lighter it is not. But hey I can't complain it was free and it doe sfeel better.

 

[dondavis3]

arg271

jdmdriver8

Boy that's bad news are you two gonna do this ??

YouTube - S&W Sigma Trigger job (Trigger fixer)

 

[jdmdriver8]

Do everything he tells you to do and trust me you will fall in love with your sigma.

YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 3, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

by the way this is blastfacts video and he is a great guy so pm him if you have any questions.

 

[blastfact]

Do everything he tells you to do and trust me you will fall in love with your sigma.

YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 3, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

by the way this is blastfacts video and he is a great guy so pm him if you have any questions.

Thanks for the prop's! But my way will not be everybody's way. I also have no issues with having no warranty concerning my Sigma. I bought it right and if does not work out I will take a sledge hammer to it and drop the parts in the right recycling bins.

After tax and rebate I only have $200 bucks in this pistol. IMHO that's all it's worth over all. That is not a bad thing. If you can buy a Sigma right and make it work for you. It may well be the bargain of the fading decade.

I myself would like to see a shear assy. that has been reworked by S&W. Also see if there was any link work done or main trigger assy. work done. I honestly can't see them putting any real bench work into the parts. Maybe they just put cleaner parts in them as they should have done during production.

I come from a machine tool / tool and die family. I grew up in tool shops and a grandfather that made all of his own firearms. When I looked at some of the parts in my pistol. I found it to be very sad production. Looked like the bean counters had a big say in the pistols production. And I thought to my self. No self respecting production person would let nasty die's like that pass mustard. If I ever let any of my work off my desk or out of my shop in that condition as ordered by a boss. I would quit the job and move on.

But what the hey,,, welcome to the new America. We struggle at times to make things as good or worse than pre and post war Japan. IMHO!

 

[jdmdriver8]

after pulling my sear apart after getting it back from LSG, I did not notice to much of anything special. They did put some moly grease in there and seemed to clean up the stamped parts a little. Also seemed to bend(or replace) the pigtail spring. But I took it back out ayways. LOL
With the LSG job, pigtail removal, and a bic spring as the outer sear spring I have fallen in love with it. Put the bic spring in there today after I got it back from LSG and went to the range and my groups are alot better.