MP 15-22, a good buy?

I think the problem is with the uncertainty. When will I get the rifle back? Will it work when I get back? Will I have to go through this whole process a second time? Thats why these people get so upset.

Having a backup gun available when a favorite firearm breaks makes the wait a whole lot easier. :D
 
Congrads on getting your gun back!!! Shop at Academy next time!!! If you have one...we have both, Academy and GM, i dont like GM either...there always priced higher and the people never seem that helpful to me.

I don't agree with your visit to GM. I purchased my AR15-22 from GM. After about 3 mags of shooting, the extractor went missing, and the gun started jamming!!! After I came home and cleaned the rifle, I took it back to GM to see what they can do for me. They took the bolt out, and said, "Looks like you're extractor is missing." I played stupid and say what's an extractor?? They went to the floor and got the display one, pull the bolt out and showed it to me. I said "Ohhhh". Then the gun manager took out the bolt in my gun, and replaced it with the bolt from the floor display. He apologized about the mishap and sent me on my way.

That's customer service if you ask me!!!


Texagi95
 
Having a backup gun available when a favorite firearm breaks makes the wait a whole lot easier. :D

Yeah well thats why I want to get that M&P .40 now. ;)

I don't agree with your visit to GM. I purchased my AR15-22 from GM. After about 3 mags of shooting, the extractor went missing, and the gun started jamming!!! After I came home and cleaned the rifle, I took it back to GM to see what they can do for me. They took the bolt out, and said, "Looks like you're extractor is missing." I played stupid and say what's an extractor?? They went to the floor and got the display one, pull the bolt out and showed it to me. I said "Ohhhh". Then the gun manager took out the bolt in my gun, and replaced it with the bolt from the floor display. He apologized about the mishap and sent me on my way.

That's customer service if you ask me!!!


Texagi95

You seem lucky enough to have a decent GM by you. My Gander Mountain didn't do anything like that, and they didn't even give me any restitution. When I picked up my rifle they were nice about it but with all the money I spent on gas I expected them to give me something for my troubles, like a free box of Federal Bulk.
 
Yeah well thats why I want to get that M&P .40 now. ;)



You seem lucky enough to have a decent GM by you. My Gander Mountain didn't do anything like that, and they didn't even give me any restitution. When I picked up my rifle they were nice about it but with all the money I spent on gas I expected them to give me something for my troubles, like a free box of Federal Bulk.

That M&P 40 is a nice gun. I think the M&P 9 is better because it is cheaper to shoot. JMHO.

The Gander Mountain I got mine from was ok. When my extractor broke the first time, they ended up pulling parts out of another 15-22 to fix mine. That part lasted about 2 weeks till it blew out. So ended up sending to S&W and got fixed correctly. GM did give me a couple of $10.00 off coupons for my troubles. :rolleyes:
 
That M&P 40 is a nice gun. I think the M&P 9 is better because it is cheaper to shoot. JMHO.

The Gander Mountain I got mine from was ok. When my extractor broke the first time, they ended up pulling parts out of another 15-22 to fix mine. That part lasted about 2 weeks till it blew out. So ended up sending to S&W and got fixed correctly. GM did give me a couple of $10.00 off coupons for my troubles. :rolleyes:

Yeah I considered the 9mm but I want to buy this gun for home defense, the .40 round from what I have read performs just like the 9mm but it has 50% more stopping power. I am trying to find out the price of .40 ammo as we speak. In the end I think it was best my rifle was sent back because I would be steaming if I had to spend another small fortune driving back and forth between GM. Still though GM should have gave me something for my troubles like S&W did.
 
WHY in the HELL should you have to return a 500.0 22 the first week you own it because it wont cycle???? Some of the people on here must be on the SW payroll!!!
 
Another happy new 15-22 owner.

Glad you love your new rifle 32hibo. :)
 
Yeah well thats why I want to get that M&P .40 now. ;)



You seem lucky enough to have a decent GM by you. My Gander Mountain didn't do anything like that, and they didn't even give me any restitution. When I picked up my rifle they were nice about it but with all the money I spent on gas I expected them to give me something for my troubles, like a free box of Federal Bulk.

Yeah, sucks they didnt give you anything for your troubles, they should have, The Manager i delt with at Academy where i got my 15-22 was awesome, we kept in contact from the time my gun left till i got it back, he even gave me 2 100rd boxes of Winchester Superx, and a hard plastic case to put my 15-22 in for my troubles, bout a 35 buck value all together. So i was happy!!!
 
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WHY in the HELL should you have to return a 500.0 22 the first week you own it because it wont cycle???? Some of the people on here must be on the SW payroll!!!

WOW you over payed lol, $500 are you serious? haha.. I've had mine for 2 months, no problems at all with my 15-22 it's the most reliable .22 I own, cycles all kinds of crap ammo I've put through it and I haven't cleaned it since the initial cleaning 700 rds ago and it still functions like a champ!
 
WHY in the HELL should you have to return a 500.0 22 the first week you own it because it wont cycle????

The answer is, you don't have to. You can keep your non-cycling 15-22 in it's current condition forever.
 
WHY in the HELL should you have to return a 500.0 22 the first week you own it because it wont cycle???? Some of the people on here must be on the SW payroll!!!

It sucks that I had to return the rifle. However S&W fixed the rifle fast, and gave me a free magazine for my troubles. Now that I witnessed their awesome customer service I know any product I buy from them can be trusted to work or they will fix it at their own expense. It's a new rifle so as with any new product it should be expected that some will get lemons, however thats forgivable if the product is fixed fast and right the first time while costing me nothing.

Thats how I feel anyway.

Yeah, sucks they didnt give you anything for your troubles, they should have, The Manager i delt with at Academy where i got my 15-22 was awesome, we kept in contact from the time my gun left till i got it back, he even gave me 2 100rd boxes of Winchester Superx, and a hard plastic case to put my 15-22 in for my troubles, bout a 35 buck value all together. So i was happy!!!

Right now I am more pissed with Gander Mountain than anyone else. How could they not give me something for my troubles?
 
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My rifle has failed me again.

I took my M&P 15-22 out on the range today and the rifle started to have failure to feed issues from the first clip. I would pull the clip out and find the round facing straight up. This time I used CCI Mini-Mag (1260 FPS). I also tired the Federal's and had the same problem. The only things I can think of thats causing the problems is the weather. It was between 15-20 F on the range. Also the gun was a bit dirty, I put 400+ rounds through it the last time and didn't clean it. So what should I do? It's going to be too cold to visit the range for awhile so I am thinking of contacting S&W for shipping material and having them look at it. If it wasn't for all the crap going on in my life right now I might be more upset but I just don't have the time for it. Suggestions? Thanks. :(
 
I would pull the clip out and find the round facing straight up.

That's a chronic issue among many 15-22s, even rifles having been to S&W for repair. I get about a half dozen +/- of the same thing out of 500rds of Fed Val Pack. I didn't read how often this is happening with your rifle but you might lower the rate by taking care in loading the 'magazine', but it's been a chronic problem.
 
That's a chronic issue among many 15-22s, even rifles having been to S&W for repair. I get about a half dozen +/- of the same thing out of 500rds of Fed Val Pack. I didn't read how often this is happening with your rifle but you might lower the rate by taking care in loading the 'magazine', but it's been a chronic problem.

Trust me when I say much care has been taken when I load the magazines. We load one round at a time and we only leave enough room to put one round in the magazine. I guess my best bet is to send the rifle back again? If so do you think S&W will send me packing material because I don't want to take the long trip to Gander Mountain again. :(
 
if you still have the box it came in, just get some brown wrapping paper at walmart, by the school supplies, where the mailing stuff is, and wrap the box, and ship it off.
 
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Been checking your loading? I have problems when the magazines are loaded indifferently and end up like the one on the right.

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-- Chuck
 
Trust me when I say much care has been taken when I load the magazines. We load one round at a time and we only leave enough room to put one round in the magazine. I guess my best bet is to send the rifle back again? If so do you think S&W will send me packing material because I don't want to take the long trip to Gander Mountain again. :(

I believe you. I take my time loading the magazines and still have the same problem as you describe. I'm not sure you'll get much satisfaction sending it back once more to S&W. I've asked Beck27 and others who had the problem prior to sending it to S&W for repair and they have told me that the issue persists. That's why I haven't sent mine back...... yet.
 
I believe you. I take my time loading the magazines and still have the same problem as you describe. I'm not sure you'll get much satisfaction sending it back once more to S&W. I've asked Beck27 and others who had the problem prior to sending it to S&W for repair and they have told me that the issue persists. That's why I haven't sent mine back...... yet.

Sigh, so S&W doesn't really have a fix for this problem? How long does the warranty last? :confused:

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Been checking your loading? I have problems when the magazines are loaded indifferently and end up like the one on the right.

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-- Chuck

Yes, none of my magazines looked like that.

if you still have the box it came in, just get some brown wrapping paper at walmart, by the school supplies, where the mailing stuff is, and wrap the box, and ship it off.

I guess thats what I will be doing, but S&W has to pay for the shipping.
 
Sigh, so S&W doesn't really have a fix for this problem? How long does the warranty last? :confused:



Yes, none of my magazines looked like that.



I guess thats what I will be doing, but S&W has to pay for the shipping.

My "conspiracy theory" on this problem is that the ammo is slightly out of spec and larger than spec in case diameter. We are just talking .001s here. Different lots of ammo can vary just a bit, especially when shooting the bulk packs.

If you will take some time and read other rimfire forums, you will find that no manufacturer of the semi auto rimfires in this price range have all their products give 100% trouble free operation.
 
There's a "vast" difference in cartridge overall legth based on the four sample lots I have on hand. Federal 40gr Target round nose is the longest and requires a lot of attention to detail to load.

-- Chuck
 

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