HK 91 w/ spares if the S does truly HTF. Joe
When "it hits the fan" - what will be YOUR rifle?
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writerinmo
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This is all I have at the moment...
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Especially a LEO or member of the military. I mean REALLY, you gonna do that?
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Colt AR 6520 (simple) and KAC SR-25
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I'm no longer in the military, so I will NOT soil my hands with a 'mattel rifle'. No 'steel and wood'! Now that I said that, Comrade Kalashnikov having celebrated his 90th year, made a very good semi-automatic 30-30! Would i own a 30-30? If there were a rnage to travel to, to utilize, become one, and know it's inner voice, yes! But, alas! The closest range I have near me is a 25-yd. indoor range. So, choose already, SF! I did, a Trapper 16-inch barrel, big loop, lever action in .38/.357. You see, I can marry this rifle to my M15-3, or my Taurus M82. I have been working to find 'the store-bought loads' that would fit what I would require of this combination, and all NON-Plus P.
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How did you manage to not comply, during Katrina, when that fat now-retired National Guard General, and now school board superintendent, Gary Jones, said that New Orleans was 'Little Somalia', and that 'we have to take it back from the insurgents', and disarmed survivors who were in their house, under armed threat?
I have modern "assault weapon" style carbines, which would be among the first choices in the hypothetical scenario. However, as food for thought, on a recent road trip in the PR of California, where free men abdicate their constitutional rights and can't carry Evil Black Rifles, instead, I took a CA-legal .223 bolt-action carbine with a low power variable scope. Not my first choice for an urban CQB rig, but a very far cry from being inadequately armed. Effective to a couple hundred yards, light, short, easy to deploy, lightweight ammo, utterly reliable, even if neglected, only very few parts ever likely to break, no parts ever likely to wear out, no batteries involved --- this may be the ultimate post-apocalypse general-purpose rifle iteration.
Ditto. My M1A's x2 in case one breaks.
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If you're the squeamish type, get a pig and kill it with a knife. It'll get you used to the blood and screaming/squealing.
Anyway, good luck hitting man sized targets out to a 1000 yards with any sort of off the rack hunting rifle. That sort of thing isn't all that common even with a precision rifle, expensive optics, match grade ammo, a spotter, and the training how to use it. A good part of such training is actually how to lay still in your own waste while terrible insects bite you. Not much fun.
I couldn't get ammunition reliably during the recent ammo panic. Even the really odd stuff got snapped up, like 70 plus year old stocks of 7.35mm Carcano.
Good luck capturing weapons too. That presumes that you hold the ground at the end of something and that whoever you're trying to recover things from didn't have friends.
Anyway, I live on a Marine base. There are three recruit battalions, the weapons bn, and what not.
What could happen, and I'm actually surprised hasn't, is for three or four shooters to pull a mumbai and get into family housing and attempt to run up a score. (Crash the gate, sneak in via delivery truck, or just get in via the swamp.)
I've got two M4 clones and a Colt 6500 - basically a transitional A1/A2 hybrid. I've also got an M1 carbine a Mini 14 and a bunch of other things.
My current M4 clones are a straight CMMG and a CMMG lower with all Colt parts. One is back to iron sights, the other has an older Aimpoint Comp M on it. Either, or the 6500 will work fine. Since the operative word was "rifle" and not "carbine", I suppose the answer is the 6500.
My wife is a Corpsman, the AR platform simply makes sense. When the boys are older, they can have the extras.
I keep 75 odd AR mags laying around loaded. I also have 1000rds "rainy day" can of GI green tip on strippers handy. I keep 6 mags in my Eagle chest rig, along with my G34 and a total of five mags for that. That goes on over my Izzy tac armor with level IV plates (allegedly multi hit) front and back. A rifle is only part of the answer, your accessories are what can make the difference. (My wife has her own armor and a reasonaby stocked medic bag.)
Though I have a PVS-14, I've yet to get an IR laser/illuminator mounted. Eh, other priorities. I suppose I should get one of the M4's a can too.
Truth be told, I plan to get a SCAR-H when those become commercially to be had in a bug free format and if the new Leupold HAMR works out, just mount one of those and be done with it.
Those interested in this sort of thing will find it more useful to have a suppressed weapon with IR target aquisition systems paired with American made (ITT) NVG than to worry all that much about caliber and platform. Just tuck the gun under your arm and follow the dot that only you can see at night. Tape down buttons on your remote controls and you've got makeshift IR IFF units. The can isn't so much to kill the noise as to eliminate the flash.
Anyway, good luck hitting man sized targets out to a 1000 yards with any sort of off the rack hunting rifle. That sort of thing isn't all that common even with a precision rifle, expensive optics, match grade ammo, a spotter, and the training how to use it. A good part of such training is actually how to lay still in your own waste while terrible insects bite you. Not much fun.
I couldn't get ammunition reliably during the recent ammo panic. Even the really odd stuff got snapped up, like 70 plus year old stocks of 7.35mm Carcano.
Good luck capturing weapons too. That presumes that you hold the ground at the end of something and that whoever you're trying to recover things from didn't have friends.
Anyway, I live on a Marine base. There are three recruit battalions, the weapons bn, and what not.
What could happen, and I'm actually surprised hasn't, is for three or four shooters to pull a mumbai and get into family housing and attempt to run up a score. (Crash the gate, sneak in via delivery truck, or just get in via the swamp.)
I've got two M4 clones and a Colt 6500 - basically a transitional A1/A2 hybrid. I've also got an M1 carbine a Mini 14 and a bunch of other things.
My current M4 clones are a straight CMMG and a CMMG lower with all Colt parts. One is back to iron sights, the other has an older Aimpoint Comp M on it. Either, or the 6500 will work fine. Since the operative word was "rifle" and not "carbine", I suppose the answer is the 6500.
My wife is a Corpsman, the AR platform simply makes sense. When the boys are older, they can have the extras.
I keep 75 odd AR mags laying around loaded. I also have 1000rds "rainy day" can of GI green tip on strippers handy. I keep 6 mags in my Eagle chest rig, along with my G34 and a total of five mags for that. That goes on over my Izzy tac armor with level IV plates (allegedly multi hit) front and back. A rifle is only part of the answer, your accessories are what can make the difference. (My wife has her own armor and a reasonaby stocked medic bag.)
Though I have a PVS-14, I've yet to get an IR laser/illuminator mounted. Eh, other priorities. I suppose I should get one of the M4's a can too.
Truth be told, I plan to get a SCAR-H when those become commercially to be had in a bug free format and if the new Leupold HAMR works out, just mount one of those and be done with it.
Those interested in this sort of thing will find it more useful to have a suppressed weapon with IR target aquisition systems paired with American made (ITT) NVG than to worry all that much about caliber and platform. Just tuck the gun under your arm and follow the dot that only you can see at night. Tape down buttons on your remote controls and you've got makeshift IR IFF units. The can isn't so much to kill the noise as to eliminate the flash.
Sir, FWIW, my "go to" rifle is a Garand. Yes, it's big and relatively low capacity, but it's also rugged, reliable, and powerful. If the bad guys have cars or know enough to hide behind things, that power might come in handy.
Probably most important, I'm very familiar with M1s. I've shot them competitively for some years and done a good bit of gunsmithing on them, including building a few up from bare receivers. I also have plenty of "support stuff" on hand for them: spare parts, tools, ammo, clips, components, etc.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
Probably most important, I'm very familiar with M1s. I've shot them competitively for some years and done a good bit of gunsmithing on them, including building a few up from bare receivers. I also have plenty of "support stuff" on hand for them: spare parts, tools, ammo, clips, components, etc.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
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I've got my semi-auto ranch rifle in .223. It has a lot of extra large capacity magazines and it's pretty accurate for open sights.
Combat_Diver
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I'll be grabbing my M4ergy 14.5" because I've got decades of experience with it.
CD
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I have two extremes that I've come to consider my Go To rifles, a M1 Garand and a HiPoint 995TS. They are both reliable and their niches do not overlap much. Though given my rural location and the fact I do not plan on evacuating, I consider my H&R Handi Rifles to be very useful for food harvesting.
JohnnieB
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Based on the KISS philosophy, the "rifle" in our SHTF bag is a SS Rossi M92 Carbine with a 16" barrel and iron sights in .38/.357, sharing ammo with the revolvers we will be carrying. No glass to break. No batteries to wear out. Both lever actions and revolvers are time proven mechanisms that are known to function reliably under less than ideal conditions.
Being realists, neither my wife nor I believe we will be very likely to effectively defend our home from trained and disciplined aggressors, but we're pretty sure either of us will be able to deter a gang of thugs to the point the survivors will go looking for easier pickin's.
John
Being realists, neither my wife nor I believe we will be very likely to effectively defend our home from trained and disciplined aggressors, but we're pretty sure either of us will be able to deter a gang of thugs to the point the survivors will go looking for easier pickin's.
John
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The boys that come after you in your neighborhood are going to be wearing standard body armor so unless you are using the latest steel penetrator 223's you are SOL. You need something like the 308 or 30/06 that can get the job done. My Remington 03A3 with 3X9 and glassed stock is minute of dirtbag accurate to 800+ yards and M2 ball will penetrate even Dragonskin inside 100 yards.
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I'll say one thing, Gator is one of the more interesting military spouses I've encountered 
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