New Sigma Owner

[Just Shoot]

New to the S&W forum and new Sigma 40 VE owner. Have owned and hunted with long guns and a 686 for a number of years and really enjoy it. I have heard a lot of unfaverable stories about the trigger pull on the Sigma. Is it that much of an issue and is it advisable to put another trigger in?

 

[Backon4]

No other triggers available. Just shoot the heck out of it and it will get better.

 

[Cirrus]

Shoot and then tell us what you think. In the end it's going to be up to you to decide what to do. If you like it, great. If you don't like it, some say it will get a little better the more you shoot it. If you don't like it and don't want to put in the cost of the ammo, then sell it or trade.

If you end up not liking, my opinion would be to keep that to yourself around here. Speaking from experience...

 

[Knightrider03m]

New to the S&W forum and new Sigma 40 VE owner. Have owned and hunted with long guns and a 686 for a number of years and really enjoy it. I have heard a lot of unfaverable stories about the trigger pull on the Sigma. Is it that much of an issue and is it advisable to put another trigger in?

I stayed with the trigger for about a year, then I had Smith and Wesson ease up on the trigger (for free) and now its like a whole new gun.

 

[leejack]

I'd sell it.

 

[spricks]

Welcome to forum Just Shoot. Glad you chose the 40, you will be glad you did....pay no attention to that leejack guy....he doesn't know how sweet the sigma truly becomes with some use...LOL
Go ahead and dry fire it to free the whole gun up some. It won't hurt it a bit, and actually help to break it in.
spricks

 

[leejack]

If I said something nice, I'd get criticized. LOL!

Welcome to the forum Just Shoot.

 

[Jim H]

New to the S&W forum and new Sigma 40 VE owner.

HOWDY!

Have owned ...a 686 for a number of years and really enjoy it. I have heard a lot of unfavorable stories about the trigger pull on the Sigma. Is it that much of an issue...

If you were comfortable shooting your 686 double-action trigger, the Sigma should not be much different in terms of weight. Shoot it, and/or dry-fire it, until it no longer feels 'gritty.' Oh, and you only need to pull the slide back about 1/4 inch to reset the striker (you will hear or feel it click) so you can dry fire again.

 

[Sleddog30]

Welcome. Just go out and shoot it. Then let us know what you think.

Have fun!

 

[Just Shoot]

Being nice

If I said something nice, I'd get criticized. LOL!

Welcome to the forum Just Shoot.

LJ we'll probably get along good on here...trust me I can put up with it and DISH IT OUT...LOL I was born at night but it wasn't last night......

 

[russp1]

Purchased a new Sigma 9 this morning. At first one of the sales guys was letting us know about the slightly heavy trigger pull, then he remembered our carry guns are S&W J frame DAO. Now my question is, how many magazines do most of you keep for one gun? Trying to decide whether to get the $50 dollar rebate or the two free mags which would give me three total.

 

[pbcaster]

Slightly heavy trigger pull? We had one go through here that was 22 pounds! Try and shoot that.

My Police Department made the unwise decision to purchase some of the Sigma pistols because they were cheap......They would not feed and fire reliably. We now have Glock pistols with no issues.

In my opinion, the Sigma pistols were/are the worst piece of crap that Smith&Wesson ever produced. They are now VERY cheap for a reason. Smith&Wesson wants to get rid of them. Their cure for failure to fire, is to increase the tension(radically increase the tension as in spring pressure) on the firing mechanism, to the point that you can not possibly shoot one well.

INS purchased some of the first ones...they sent them back. Reason? Would not work reliably as in failure to fire and feed.

Smith&Wesson makes some of the finest guns on God's planet, but they dropped the ball big time with the Sigma in my opinion and in the opinion of LEO.

 

[MK]

You didn't get two mags with the pistol? I did.. Sounds like
the store/sales guys kept one if it only came with one.
In my case, I got two with the pistol, and two more with the rebate
for four total. I also got the $50.. I bought mine back when they
were giving both the mags and the money back.
Those mags retail for about $40 a pop.
I'm not aware of S&W cutting to only one mag on those..
Maybe some other recent buyers could chime in. I know I got two
with mine which were in the plastic case when I bought it.

 

[Phil In Idaho]

Not worth a crap?

I've put about 700 rounds and I've had only 2 FTF in that time. Frankly I think it's the ammo because it's ONLY happend with the MFS ammo. As far as the trigger goes I too came from a revolver background so the pull to me was not back. Fortunalty mine was never gritty. Just heavy. After shooting it and dry firing it about 300 more times it's lighter.
I think the "Social" stigma of owing the Sigma is worse than the trigger pull. At the range I've had a couple of compliments. Funny how people see the grouping and then want to see what gun did that. What?? Did they think the gun jumped up and fired itself?

 

[russp1]

You didn't get two mags with the pistol? I did.. Sounds like
the store/sales guys kept one if it only came with one.
In my case, I got two with the pistol, and two more with the rebate
for four total. I also got the $50.. I bought mine back when they
were giving both the mags and the money back.
Those mags retail for about $40 a pop.
I'm not aware of S&W cutting to only one mag on those..
Maybe some other recent buyers could chime in. I know I got two
with mine which were in the plastic case when I bought it.

The store only had 40s in stock so I had to order in the 9mm which I pick up Friday. I was just assuming it would come with one mag, I'll have to ask about it if it diesn't come with two. So do you think two is enough then?

 

[ET.]

I bought a SW40VE Sigma several years ago. It came with 2 mags. I bought another mag because I like to keep at least 3 mags for each semi that I own. My Glock 27 has 6 mags because I run it with a 9mm barrel, the 40s&w original barrel & a 357 sig barrel, so I needed different mags for the different calibers. Other than that, 3 mags is all I keep for my other semis. Some gun owners keep a lot more than 3. I don't think I've made that many enemies yet, but give me some time I'm sure I can add to that list.

 

[Jim H]

Purchased a new Sigma 9 this morning. At first one of the sales guys was letting us know about the slightly heavy trigger pull, then he remembered our carry guns are S&W J frame DAO.

Yep, the J-frames do have a heft pull, and my 442 is the most difficult gun to shoot 'accurately' in my fleet, including my SW40F. It does, however, make a dandy 'dry fire' trainer and trigger finger exerciser.

...how many magazines do most of you keep for one gun?

My SW40F came with two, and I bought two more so I could participate in shoot-reload-shoot-reload-shoot drills. I haven't really needed four mags, though. One magazine, loaded, is all you really need...

 

[marlin.357]

Can't have too many magazines. IMHO four is the bare minimum.

I'd rather spend my range time shooting than filling magazines.

 

[MK]

So do you think two is enough then?

Well, four is nice to have as a "feel good" type of deal, but
in the real world I've never bothered loading up more than two
at a time. Which I usually do when out in the sticks..
That's 28 rounds, not including any in the chamber, and I figure if I can't
take out my attacker/s with 28 rounds, I might as well hang it up.

Besides, my holster only holds two mags anyway. And that is for woods
use, mainly for animals. Here at the house, I usually only keep one mag
loaded.

So yea, I could easily live with only two. But I wouldn't want to have
only one.. Out in the sticks, I could run into dog packs, etc, and I feel
better with another mag, if anything just to be able to continue to
make noise. If I had a dog pack attack me, I'd try to avoid shooting
the dogs at first. Some of those dogs belong to people around there,
and they get to running with the wild ones. So I'll give a warning shot
or three before I starting thinking about popping one. Course, if I have
a bad one coming at me fast, looking to eat my legs, I'm probably going
to blast em first shot. But I think just the noise will cause most to
rethink their behavior and runnoft. :/ So I like a good bit of ammo out
there. I feel pretty comfy with 28+1..

 

[HspncElvis]

My experience with my SW9VE is a good one. Why? Practice!! If you can't figure out the Sigma, get rid of it!! Those of us who have figured out the Sigma find it to be a fantastic firearm. Accurate and reliable.