Sigma:What's the truth???
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wunderful
what i meant is the trigger is not crisp enough when it breaks and the reset is fairly long. i dont mind the heavy pull at all as i mentioned
Ofc.JL
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Gentlemen, please reference my post in SIGMA FAQ. Post #75 Titled "SIGMA History". That will give you insight to why SIGMA's are spoken bad of, even to this day. And, like a poster said earlier in this thread, Gun shop "Hero's" and "Expert's" spouting drivel they have heard, and have no real experience with the Pistol.. It chaps my ass to this day.
And, after S&W's misstep with the SIGMA, they up and did it again with the SW9M. Brillant Idea, badly applied. S&W was trying to make money fast with cheap guns. I had one myself for a while. Loved the size of it and when it did fire, very controllable. Constant misfires from an out of spec chamber and excessive headspace ruined it for me. I called S&W for answers and the Rep advised me that the SW9M was completly deleted out due to problems and no service or parts existed for them. He then asked me what I liked. I told him I liked 908's and he said send in the SW9M and they would swap me. I did and they did! You know I jumped on that quick. S&W has always taken care of me thru the years. Even when bad leadership caused engineering headaches with less than ready to be built pistols. S&W still stood behind that POS SW9M, 10 or so years after thay built it. I love 'em.
OFC.JL
And, after S&W's misstep with the SIGMA, they up and did it again with the SW9M. Brillant Idea, badly applied. S&W was trying to make money fast with cheap guns. I had one myself for a while. Loved the size of it and when it did fire, very controllable. Constant misfires from an out of spec chamber and excessive headspace ruined it for me. I called S&W for answers and the Rep advised me that the SW9M was completly deleted out due to problems and no service or parts existed for them. He then asked me what I liked. I told him I liked 908's and he said send in the SW9M and they would swap me. I did and they did! You know I jumped on that quick. S&W has always taken care of me thru the years. Even when bad leadership caused engineering headaches with less than ready to be built pistols. S&W still stood behind that POS SW9M, 10 or so years after thay built it. I love 'em.
OFC.JL
HspncElvis
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I really like my SW9VE. Have about 400 rounds through it and no problems at all. Accurate and reliable. I highly recommend it.
leejack
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Bienvenidos Elvis!
HspncElvis
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I've had my Sigma 40ve for almost 2 years. It is a reliable gun. After I figured out the trigger pull it became a very accurate gun for me. I would have no problem carrying it. I currently carry a Glock 27, but if it was confiscated due to a shooting I would start carrying the Sigma.
HspncElvis
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Truth is, I have 650 rounds through my SW9VE. Trigger takes practice. Factory trigger is not a problem.
Checking in here. Been focusing on SW revolvers for the last year or so. Sold my Sigma to a guy who needed a good home defense piece and not much cash. Pulled my Glock 17 & 19 out of the safe but I just can't get in to shooting them. Checking out an SD9 tomorrow. Miss that Sigma!
Regards all viewers and contributors.
Regards all viewers and contributors.
carbuncle
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I had one of the the most-despised-by-gun-gurus 1st generation .40 Sigmas back in the mid-90s: I thought it was a great gun. Never gave me any problems, and it was as accurate as I was. I think the Sigma is a love-to-hate gun with a certain crowd, but honestly they are a good gun for the money. If all I had was a Sigma (of any generation) for HD and carry, I would not feel at a disadvantage in any way.
Just got home from a 13 hour day, SHOOTING. Tactical training, car jacking, night shooting, etc., shot my Sigma all day, no problems, (other than me hitting the mag release a few inopportune times). The Sigma played real well with all the other 'kids', Sigs, Glocks, etc. It's everybit as good a gun in those situations as anything else, it rained on us, we crawled around in the dirt. Can't remember complaining about the trigger much, (I had to!) Going back for day two today.
nogoodnamesleft
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I asked the very same question not to long ago .... one of the fellas who's been around a bit brought up the point that they had some quality or mechanical issues in the begining, and that helped spur rumors of its low quality ....
I was NOT surprised, however, when NOT ONE of the Sigma bashers who chimes in at what junk they are cared to speak up ... NOT ONE. So it seems they stick to their guns (pun intended) until an actual thought and reason is needed, not just the ability to go with the group, they had little to say ..... NOT ONE of these mofo's had the brass to say 'yeah, the sigma sucks and here's why' .... yet they are the first to chime in when someone else starts bashing ... typical sheeple mentality of people with little power of thought.
You know who you are.
I was NOT surprised, however, when NOT ONE of the Sigma bashers who chimes in at what junk they are cared to speak up ... NOT ONE. So it seems they stick to their guns (pun intended) until an actual thought and reason is needed, not just the ability to go with the group, they had little to say ..... NOT ONE of these mofo's had the brass to say 'yeah, the sigma sucks and here's why' .... yet they are the first to chime in when someone else starts bashing ... typical sheeple mentality of people with little power of thought.
You know who you are.
leejack
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Many sigma bashers are sigma bashers because they can't shoot the gun.
It must be the guns fault.
Those of us who can shoot it, tend to like it.
I really like the simplicity and reliability thing, not to mention the splendid ergos.
It must be the guns fault.
Those of us who can shoot it, tend to like it.
I really like the simplicity and reliability thing, not to mention the splendid ergos.
airman
WW II Vet
It was so good to me that my SIL got it away from me.
I wish I had it back.
I wish I had it back.
bbaaspencer
Member
My Honest experience with my Sigma 9mm
The Sigma 9mm jammed right out of the box and the trigger pull was unbelievably hard. My gunsmith friend said he would not touch it and to send it back. I called SW and got some PMS witch that wanted to blame the jams on me! I about blew a gasket. I paid to send it back and wrote a detailed letter. I received it back about 2.5 weeks later. The repair invoice said the extractor was replaced and nothing about the extremely hard trigger pull. I found a trigger fix on here and discovered the parts had deep grooves in it. I smoothed everything out and the trigger is about 75% smoother. I finally got a decent gun, but had to spend time and money to get it to work properly. By the way, Glock owners get bad guns too! My next purchase is either a MP 40 or SD40. I like SW and will always buy them, period! I have a whole bunch of SW handguns and the 457 is the best they ever made and I will die with it! My only 2 complaints is the customer service witch that wanted to argue with me right out of the gate and the repair center that ignored my request to have the trigger fixed.
The Sigma 9mm jammed right out of the box and the trigger pull was unbelievably hard. My gunsmith friend said he would not touch it and to send it back. I called SW and got some PMS witch that wanted to blame the jams on me! I about blew a gasket. I paid to send it back and wrote a detailed letter. I received it back about 2.5 weeks later. The repair invoice said the extractor was replaced and nothing about the extremely hard trigger pull. I found a trigger fix on here and discovered the parts had deep grooves in it. I smoothed everything out and the trigger is about 75% smoother. I finally got a decent gun, but had to spend time and money to get it to work properly. By the way, Glock owners get bad guns too! My next purchase is either a MP 40 or SD40. I like SW and will always buy them, period! I have a whole bunch of SW handguns and the 457 is the best they ever made and I will die with it! My only 2 complaints is the customer service witch that wanted to argue with me right out of the gate and the repair center that ignored my request to have the trigger fixed.
A follow up, finished my second day of tactical training with my Sigma, 600+ rounds, two days, single shot, double tap, triple tap, rapid fire full mags with reloading. Running to cover, draw and shoot, shooting from inside a car, climb out, find cover, shoot, night shooting, flash light techniques. Had one failure for the slide to lock back on an empty mag, that was about it. NO other prolblems. The Sigma was as accurate, (or inaccurate as was the case more than once), as everyone else attending the class, ('cept for the instructor, he's freakin' good with about anything he shot). There was a Sig Sauer that had a few issues, an FN I think was the brand, had a couple of 'hiccups', a Kel Tec PF9 with a few issues, (familiar with them, I also own one, didn't use it for the weekend). Long story short, would I trust my LIFE to my Sigma, HELL YES!
Sigma 4060
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Happy with Sigma. Finally
I have had my Sigma 9mm for 2 weeks. The first two week's were hell with this gun. I had FTF on every 4th or 5th round. Plus the slide would not stay open on the final round. I made the switch from UMC 115gr FMJ to American Eagle 124gr FMJ. After 300rd not a single FTF and the slide stays open after the last round is fired. My shot group isn't the best, but at 16ft I won't miss. I have had a few people tell me the Sigma is a piece of junk. Well I disagree totally. I will carry my Sigma on my side with no worries.
Another happy Sigma owner
I have had my Sigma 9mm for 2 weeks. The first two week's were hell with this gun. I had FTF on every 4th or 5th round. Plus the slide would not stay open on the final round. I made the switch from UMC 115gr FMJ to American Eagle 124gr FMJ. After 300rd not a single FTF and the slide stays open after the last round is fired. My shot group isn't the best, but at 16ft I won't miss. I have had a few people tell me the Sigma is a piece of junk. Well I disagree totally. I will carry my Sigma on my side with no worries.
Another happy Sigma owner
HspncElvis
Member
I agree with Lee.
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