Sigma:What's the truth???

Junk with a life time warranty,,, surprise surprise.

I'm so glad your wife was not hurt. I would be way pissed if that had happened in my hand. But in my wifes hand! Somebody would be in need of pain killers!!!! :mad: Somebody's worthless name is on a patent.

I hope you and S&W can come to a good terms on this.

I'm livid just looking at the pic. Best I stop here.
 
xr440dude said:
Here's a pic of the breakage just for fun. This is what it looked like immediately after my wife fired it.

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is that the .380?
 
I have never actually seen one of those. I thought that versions was only .380. Let me know how this turns out. I'm curious to see the outcome.
 
I hope you are pleasantly surprised.

Since you did not drop it on the slide-- or put it in a vice and hit the slide with a 6# hammer . . . I'd say clearly it is a case of a defect in the material or design (or some of each).
 
I have a sigma 40 and absolutely love it. It is accurate as can be. I have about 1000 rounds through it and wouldn't trade it for the world. Infact this is my EDC.
 
Everyone has a different opinion about a lot of stuff but that doesn't make the other person wrong. I have had revolvers and autos. I tried the Sigma 40 and I didn't really care for it so I sold it and got something else.
 
xr440dude said:
I have had a model SW9M for about 10 years. I rarely use it, but started to carry it since I recently got my CCW. I don't know how it compares to other Sigma models, but I am not very pleased with it. Luckily, it was a gift and I did not pay for it!

I was out shooting with my wife and kids last week. My wife wanted to try out my SW9M so I pulled it out and tried to "warm it up" for her by checking it and firing a few rounds through it.

The first problem cropped up when I loaded some military ammo I have and the SW9M wouldn't strike the primer hard enough to fire it. This ammo works fine in my Luger. I switched to commercial ammo and emptied a clip with no more difficulty.

I then handed it to my wife for her turn. On the third round the plastic on the back of the stock broke around the drift pin and the action nearly separated from the grip. Thank goodness I was watching my wife rather than looking down-range at the target. I stopped her immediately and made the gun safe. It was lucky neither of us was hurt.

This particular pistol has been sparingly used, probably no more than 1000 rounds ever fired through it. Over the past year it has been my carry gun because I like feel, the weight and that there's no external mag release or safety to get hung up on the draw. However, I've never cared for the stiff trigger pull and poor accuracy. (Maybe the latter was my fault...LOL!)

You can take what you will from this post, but I know I won't buy another one. I have feverishly researched this exact model since the breakage occurred and have found many first-hand complaints about it. Albeit, the research was done on the internet where anonymity is a shield people use to lie and exaggerate. However, my own experience is enough to make my decision!
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Smith and Wesson will fix the gun and probably not charge you for it. They will also send you a prepaid box to ship back to them.
I would try it.
Regards,
roaddog28
 
Thanks for the input, roaddog28. I know the SW9M was a short run and has been discontinued for many years. Other posters have said that once S&W takes them in for repairs they keep them. However, I'm anxious to see what they say.

In reply to b1780...I can only say that one's experience with a Sigma must greatly depend on the model and series. The model I have and ones in the same series don't seem to garner much love. Especially from me. If S&W offers, I wouldn't mind accepting one of a later series to try out.
 
I heard back from S&W. They want to take it in, but they didn't say whether they'd fix it or what. I'm supposed to call them tomorrow for more info.
 
xr440dude said:
I heard back from S&W. They want to take it in, but they didn't say whether they'd fix it or what. I'm supposed to call them tomorrow for more info.
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They should very well upgrade you and do it right now once the pistol is in there hands.

If I look at the pic right and see it right. I see the break happening at the junction of a rolled pin. A roll pin in any syn / plastic or reinforced syn is a very bad move. There mode is to expand when the right harmonics or vibs are presented to them. If the compression happens in the center third of mount the outer two thirds could very well expand. Thus the failure. There best usage is when they are set in a hard steel or alloy. Set in soft alloy of syn materials they are a failure waiting to happen when hard loads are present. Solid pins with a slight press fit are much better. This is basic mech. engineering 101 in the real world. A person does not need a degree in engineering to know,,, thats bad.

You have a real case of expected life time warranty and a honest expectation of resolution. I hope you are offered a custom shop Sigma for your trouble. If that thing had failed in my wifes hands I would be on my way to factory pistol in tow. And not polite about it.........
 
I bought my Sigma SW40VE in 2004, as it was cheap, and it was a S&W. It was mostly becasue the price was right for me, so I figured that S&W was a good name, so it had to be good. I have put about 500 rounds down the pipe since then, with no issues at all. All stock, no enhancements. For the $299 I paid for it, I think it was/is well worth it. I am not disappointed.

I now want a M&P 9mm...something about it is just calling me. I think it wants to beat up my G19, lol!
 
This is my first post here. I joined mostly because of the Sigma information here.

I bought one a couple of weeks ago, and I must admit that I've had about a 50% malfunction rate through the first 100 rounds.

But 100% of those malfunctions came out of one box of my own reloads that I had loaded too lightly. They'd most likey have malfunctioned in any gun.

However with a box of American Eagle 115 gr FMJ ammo, and a half box of 147 gr WWB, HP, it's been perfect. I know that's not much of a test, but I haven't had it too long either.

This isn't my first rodeo. I had an XD-9 that I traded off. Nothing wrong with the XD, as a matter of fact I really liked it, but saw something I liked more. And my wife has a Glock 19 that I've shot a bit also. (I've also got a Hi-Point C-9, another gun that get's knocked on a lot.)

The Sigma does have a "worse" trigger than the XD and the Glock. But it doesn't take two men, a boy, and a small dog to pull it as some might have you believe. I've dry fired it a few hundred times and it seems to have smoothed out a lot. I'd say it's not as good as the G-19, and a LOT better than the Kel-Tec P-11, I used to have.
 
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40VE

Brought a used, but looked never shot, to range today. i was apprehensive about trigger and FTE/FTF from posts. Put a box of 50 through the gun and was impressed. Trigger was not bad at all, and accuracy was on the money. I will take advantage of their current rebate and buy a new model.
 
I have had my 9VE for several years, and it's been a winner for me. The grip feels natural in my hand, and having been a revolver guy for 30 years before getting my first semi-auto (not counting 2 Ruger Mk IIs) the trigger is just right for my purpose. It has been my primary carry weapon for over 2 years now.
P.S. if you polish the sides of the stainless slide it looks quite handsome.
 
I am at 1200 rds thru my 9VE, flawless. Have 200 rds of Winchester white box in the range bag for next trip. I am not a big fan of the .40 as I have seen sevral of my guns (and me) take a pounding from that hi pressure round.
Keep the comments coming and thanks!
 
New sigma owner

First post on forum, I have been lurking about reading and first
want to thank all the individuals who post on this forum for the vast knowledge of sigma and other pistols. I just bought a s&w
sw9e at a local gun show in Memphis in march. I LOVE it!!!!! The sigma is not my first pistol, a llama omni 9mm had that distinction. I think the sigma is a great pistol for the price no matter what your needs. Since march I have put 250 rounds down range without a single problem!!!! My wife who had never shot a pistol before came along as well as her friend who brought her new ruger .380 lcp. My wife first shot my sigma after a short how to and safety instructions. Remember she has never shot a pistol before I loaded two 10 rd mags for her and told her to go at it. At fifteen feet she put all twenty shots on the paper!!!!:D And not only that but she also had three double taps within the center black!!! ( I'll post pics as soon as I can get to my computer) but as for the trigger it's not bad can't really complain with a great price tag like 279.00 plus rebate I'll take the two 16 rd mags:) I mean if my short 4'11" wife can handle the pull a grown man should be able to. Well I wanted to make my first post and say hello.
Like I said been reading alot here and happy to find folks who appreciate the sigma for what it is a good looking, reliable weapon. More to come thanks to a great community of owners
 
medic23, welcome to the forum! We're glad to have you!

Glad you and your wife like the sigma.

Mine rocks! I may have to get another, because my daughter thinks it's hers. LOL!

Lee
 
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