A question for Californians
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Mickey3Gun
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Amen
That's assuming California Senator's would presume to be "Logical" and base their decisions on facts not emotions. (That's why as soon as I can blow outa here I'm gone.....)
FYI: CALGUNS.NET has a great PDF flow chart to determine if your potential AR is CALI compliant or an EBR. Thank God rimfires are exempt form everything but the 10 round limitations.
Here's a link:http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
That's assuming California Senator's would presume to be "Logical" and base their decisions on facts not emotions. (That's why as soon as I can blow outa here I'm gone.....)
FYI: CALGUNS.NET has a great PDF flow chart to determine if your potential AR is CALI compliant or an EBR. Thank God rimfires are exempt form everything but the 10 round limitations.
Here's a link:http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
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OK I've never been a black rifle guy, but just got a new S&W AR 15 22. Here's my dumb question: What the heck is a bullet button?
Re CA compliant. The CA Attorney General has a web page that has California's "gun laws" and some announcements from the Atty Gen about the state's enforcement policies. Also a list of "banned" firearms and a very, very short list of recently approved firearms. I was surprised to see that previously approved firearms are regularly (and in large numbers) removed from the approved list. Why if once approved are they being now banned in CA? This law was promoted as one which was directed to cheap saturday night specials and "assault rifles"- but many firearms made by well known and high quality manufacturers have been approved and then later banned. (and we're not talking about true automatic weapons)
Re CA compliant. The CA Attorney General has a web page that has California's "gun laws" and some announcements from the Atty Gen about the state's enforcement policies. Also a list of "banned" firearms and a very, very short list of recently approved firearms. I was surprised to see that previously approved firearms are regularly (and in large numbers) removed from the approved list. Why if once approved are they being now banned in CA? This law was promoted as one which was directed to cheap saturday night specials and "assault rifles"- but many firearms made by well known and high quality manufacturers have been approved and then later banned. (and we're not talking about true automatic weapons)
As far as AR & AK variants go the Ca. "Assault Weapons Ban" has pretty much been overcome by the bullet button, there are certain name brands inparticular that you can't buy or sell, Norinco AK's for one example. The bullet button attaches to the trigger guard and makes it necessary to use a tool to remove the magazine which makes it legal under the Ca. AWB law. The bullet button can be easily removed if you move out of state. It's absolutely ridiculous, all the time and money and effort to put the AWB into effect and it's overcome by a little piece of metal. I have a Vector Arms AK and it's just like any other AK, it's got it's little bullet button and it's 100% legal. The Ca. DOJ "safe handgun roster" is a whole other issue altogether, I love to check out Gunbroker and Gunsamerica so I can look at all the handguns that myself and anybody else who lives in Ca. can't buy
, as M3G said, Calguns is the best place to look for info regarding any current Ca. gun laws.
, as M3G said, Calguns is the best place to look for info regarding any current Ca. gun laws.
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You can also get around using a magazine lock if you run your assault rifle "featureless", like so:
I'll be going back n' forth with my AK since it's already nearly featureless.
A cool thing that has happened lately is that there is a Colt AR-15's that can finally be bought in California. Two stores near me are taking pre-orders for them now haha. Kind of a "**** you" to the dumb gun laws here.
I'll be going back n' forth with my AK since it's already nearly featureless.
A cool thing that has happened lately is that there is a Colt AR-15's that can finally be bought in California. Two stores near me are taking pre-orders for them now haha. Kind of a "**** you" to the dumb gun laws here.
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I haven't heard of the "featureless" loophole either. Care to expand? Like iron-sights only or something? Because iron-sights are consistent enough in the 50-100 range to run with no optics if that means no bullet button.
Load up your truck with N-frame revolvers as well ! (perfectly legal for you to register here once you arrive)
I can give you a suggested list !
They are as good as gold coins !
Jerry
Seriously... so true. The Revolvers are fetching great prices these days. I need to dig up my old ones, could get all sorts of toys for the coin they are pulling lately.
Hey guys,
Welp, CA defines 'assault weapons' by a list of specific features:
*Pistol grip or thumbhole stock
*Folding or collapsable stock
*grenade/flare launcher
*flash surpressor
*forward pistol grip
If you have those on your rifle, you need a magazine lock. If you don't, you can use a normal magazine release button to release your mags freely and if you possess "high capacity" magazines before the ban, you can use them in that rifle. Rimfire rifles are exempt so my rifle will look like anyone elses on this site except I can't import or fabricate a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds.
If your in CA you have to worry about Rossi's ban list (certain brands are banned by name: example- Colt), AR15/AK series list and those Assault weapon characteristics list.
Very useful flowchart:
http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
Chubbs103
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If your chosen profession is active duty military, there are some restrictions listed on the AG's "moving to CA" website that will not apply to you. Specifically, if you are maintaining your residency status with a state other than CA, you will not be considered a personal firearms importer. The assault weapon and magazine capacity restrictions absolutely still apply. Of course if you are military and do decide to bring an evil black rifle, you have the ability to register it at $75 per year while you are here.
Please do not take my word on any of this. If you have questions call the California Department of Justice Firearms Division at 916-263-4887. They were very helpful when I moved to CA.
Chubbs
Please do not take my word on any of this. If you have questions call the California Department of Justice Firearms Division at 916-263-4887. They were very helpful when I moved to CA.
Chubbs
I'm hoping the CRPA, NRA, Cal Guns Foundation really do their part and get it so there's none of these silly lists, make normal capacity magazines, etc.
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Well I'm a little late in posting but...
I saw that no one noted that you also have to register each firearm with the CA DOJ (within 30 days) on a separate form for each firearm and pay $25 for each firearm registered.
That would REALLY SUCK in my case. But not to worry I escaped there never to go back.
I saw that no one noted that you also have to register each firearm with the CA DOJ (within 30 days) on a separate form for each firearm and pay $25 for each firearm registered.
That would REALLY SUCK in my case. But not to worry I escaped there never to go back.
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