Question to conceal carry holders...

[Rapidray]

A friend and I were talking about carrying concealed and we started talking about our different states requirements. We were wondering if...do you live in a state where you have to shoot a course of fire, and if so, the gun you shot with, is the gun you must carry. If you would list the state and it's requirements, if any.
Thanks.

 

[Retired LTC USAR]

KY--You do shoot a course of fire. Must hit 11 of 20. Can shoot with any gun and carry any gun you want to.

 

[NE450No2]

In Texas if you shoot a revolver your license is specific for only a revolver.

If you shoot a semiauto, 380 or larger, you can carry ANY semiauto or ANY revolver.

 

[cmort666]

In Ohio, the course is really just the NRA Basic Pistol Course.

You can shoot any HANDGUN (no airguns) you want. The state has no knowledge of or control over what handgun you did the range exercise with or carry.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Here in Washington State, you do not have to shoot a course of fire and their are no handgun restrictions.

My personal opinion is that there should be some live fire course with a pass/fail rating.

 

[Mphstiger1981]

In Tennessee you can shoot whatever you want for qualifying. The course of fire is 48 rounds on a B27 silhoutte target. Any round that strikes the black counts as a hit. Passing score of 70% or better is required. There are 12 rounds fired at 5 yards, 12 rounds at 7 yards, 12 rounds at 15 yards, then back again with 12 rounds at 7 yards. There were some in my class who shot .22 lr handguns.

Once you receive your Handgun Carry Permit you may carry any handgun you wish to carry, and you are not limited to the gun you qualified with.

 

[Rapidray]

We talked about that also!

My personal opinion is that there should be some live fire course with a pass/fail rating.

I think a pass/fail rating is a very good ideal also. It is just being responsible.

 

[kcode]

Along this same line of thinking, for states to have a reciprocal agreements of concealed carry, why can't there be a standard training in all states. As mentioned before in Kentucky, your license is a CCDW, concealed carry of a deadly weapon, which includes knives and other assorted items. During the classroom training all weapons are covered in the manual along with the possible consequences that could result in a libel suit even if you are justified in using deadly force.

Years ago when I took the course, the instructors frowned upon using a .22 pistol.

 

[Wyo]

No course of fire required in Wyo and you can carry any gun you want. In fact, you don't need a permit to carry concealed at all.

 

[lawman90]

No live firing required in Virginia either. You can take a course in a classroom or online. The certificate that you passed the course is all that matters to the county/state. A hunting course would even suffice, even if you took it years before you apply for the permit. Just need the certificate showing you passed.

 

[chud333]

In Indiana no courses needed. Carry whatever you want. 100 bucks for a lifetime personal protection permit.

 

[Martya]

PA - open carry no license needed (except Philly).
Concealed or motor transport, and Open Carry in Philadelphia, you need to have a "License to Carry Firearm."

No course of fire required, carry any firearm you like.

 

[oldman45]

Louisiana formerly asked if you were going to carry a semi, revolver or both. Simply check both and you were good to go. They recently did away with this so it is no longer an issue.

As to training, Louisiana is pretty strict on this. Trainers have to teach several hours of things required by law. Many of those things is on the law. It takes a lot of a person's time and then the range time is so simple a blind man could pass it. Cost of this session is about $150 to the instructor and about eight hours of your time.

There is a way around the training and at a much lower price. Go get a parish permit to carry. It takes about 15 minutes and only good in that parish but will cost about $40. You get it back in a few minutes after applying. Send a copy of the parish permit in with your application for a state permit and it serves as training.

So you can save $110 and under 8 hours in getting a LA permit if you desire and never ever fire a handgun.

 

[StanNm19]

Oklahoma has basic course of fire. If you shoot a revolver, you stay with a revolver. If you shoot semi-auto you can carry either semi-auto or revolver.

 

[s&wchad]

Michigan

Michigan has course material requirements and accepts any training program that meets those requirements. State law requires a minimum of 30 rounds fired. The most common course is a modified version of the NRA Basics of Personal Protection in the Home. The range course of fire as outlined by the NRA includes 98 rounds fired on target at distances up to 21'. It's up to the instructor to certify the student and it doesn't take very long to determine if they can properly handle a firearm.

Any legal handgun can be carried on a CPL and you may carry as many as you like. Federal law limits the minimum collapsed length of a rifle or shotgun at 26", but Michigan law sets it at 30". Long arms that are between 26" and 30" are required to be registered as a pistol in Michigan and currently even those can be carried. There is a bill in the works to redefine pistols, rifles and shotguns and bring us in line with Federal law.

 

[Hook686]

In California I think it is set by the county sheriff. In Sacramento county I recall it had to be 21 hits out of 30 rounds at 7 yards. In Placer county it was a ten round group no bigger than 8" at 10 yards. Only three handguns on the permit, and had to qualify with each.

 

[hawgleg]

Arkansas, if you qualify with a revolver that's all you can use. Qualify with a semi-auto you can carry both. There's a little shooting done but I don't think anyones ever failed.

 

[Lost Lake]

In Wisconsin, anyone can carry an exposed firearm as long as you can legally own one.

To carry concealed, you must pass a firearm safety course, of no specified length, with no required test, and no required live firing, or have proof of another state's concealed license, or have taken a hunter's safety course, or have been in the military or police, or have taken any police firearm safety course.

It is very easy to get a concealed permit in Wisconsin, but then again I don't see any restrictions written into the second amendment either.

What I find really odd is that some states require live fire and have a pass fail test or whatever, and I can come into your state with my WI license and carry having NOT proved my mettle.

That seems unfair to the residents of that state that went through the testing.

To be clear: I am all for testing and rigorous training and regular practice, but I am against those same hurdles restricting a citizen's right to carry a weapon. I think a lot of folks are with me on that sticky issue.

 

[38-44HD45]

In Texas if you shoot a revolver your license is specific for only a revolver.

If you shoot a semiauto, 380 or larger, you can carry ANY semiauto or ANY revolver.

The minimum here is actually .32 now, except for instructors.

 

[Chuck1217]

The state may require a specific weapon, but my thought has always been, it's good to take the test with the gun you plan to carry. Ya know, just the common sense part of practicing with what you would use in SD situations. But I used a Ruger Mrk .22LR, to be sure I passed the test- knowing I needed to practice a LOT with the carry gun afterwards.