The dreaded frame crack

So there I was, minding my own business, reading through this thread. I have a 20 or so year old 442 with satin finish. It's the one I just go through replacing the rebound and main spring on to lighten the trigger pull. Going to be my pocket gun.

I decided to casually walk down to the gun safe and take a quick peek at mine just be sure I didn't have a frame crack. I don't have 500 rounds through this, so how likely is it? Cant' be, right?

I opened the safe, took out the piece, opened the cylinder and - HOLY GUACAMOLE!

A huge crack, easily twice as wide as the one in the photo.

I'll probably wait until I go out to the factory for a tour in April to bring it in.

Thanks ladder 13 for starting this thread. It would be bad enough if the barrel fell of at the range, imagine if I actually had to use it for self defense.
 
So there I was, minding my own business, reading through this thread. I have a 20 or so year old 442 with satin finish. It's the one I just go through replacing the rebound and main spring on to lighten the trigger pull. Going to be my pocket gun.

I decided to casually walk down to the gun safe and take a quick peek at mine just be sure I didn't have a frame crack. I don't have 500 rounds through this, so how likely is it? Cant' be, right?

I opened the safe, took out the piece, opened the cylinder and - HOLY GUACAMOLE!

A huge crack, easily twice as wide as the one in the photo.

I'll probably wait until I go out to the factory for a tour in April to bring it in.

Thanks ladder 13 for starting this thread. It would be bad enough if the barrel fell of at the range, imagine if I actually had to use it for self defense.

I'm checking all my other Airweights in the morning. Sorry to hear about yours. :(

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So there I was, minding my own business, reading through this thread. I have a 20 or so year old 442 with satin finish. It's the one I just go through replacing the rebound and main spring on to lighten the trigger pull. Going to be my pocket gun.

I decided to casually walk down to the gun safe and take a quick peek at mine just be sure I didn't have a frame crack. I don't have 500 rounds through this, so how likely is it? Cant' be, right?

I opened the safe, took out the piece, opened the cylinder and - HOLY GUACAMOLE!

A huge crack, easily twice as wide as the one in the photo.

As I said this problem has reared its head all the way back to the no dash variants. I am sorry your guns are effected by this and the only good thing is that S&W "ALWAYS" makes good on this.
 
As I said this problem has reared its head all the way back to the no dash variants. I am sorry your guns are effected by this and the only good thing is that S&W "ALWAYS" makes good on this.

I expect that they will. If all they do is take the guts out and put them into a new frame/barrel, that's fine. I'd hate to think that I have to restore mine to as built in order for my springs not to be lost.
 
Thanks ladder 13 for starting this thread. It would be bad enough if the barrel fell of at the range, imagine if I actually had to use it for self defense.


I would love to test a cracked one and see what really happens. My guess is it would not fail catastrophically.
 
Thanks all, since they're producing no-locks it shouldn't be an issue. Actually being offered ANY no lock J would work, maybe a M&P 340 perhaps?:)

Louie, I may have to get the new gun shipped to Richie, I don't know if Smith ships directly to the owner.


It depends on your state's requirements. Florida law required mine shipped back to an FFL. Each state has it's own regulations...
 
I just checked my 642-2. No canted sight and no crack. I have fired about 100 +P loads plus some spicy handloads in it.
Have you shot yours much?
It would make sense to me that overtightened barrels would correlate with cracked frames, since overtightening pre-stresses the frame in an area where it is thin and will be stressed more every time a round is fired.
 
Sad to hear about this, Ladder. I went through the same thing last July with a 642 I bought in 1991. I had shot mine a lot. I had it with me more often than any other gun I own, using it for a back-up at work and warm weather off-duty gun.

Mine cracked while shooting it, I believe. I put a box of 50 through it one day and found the crack when cleaning it the next day. It was functioning just fine. My guess is that it would have shot another five rounds or more without me noticing anything was wrong. I had shot a qualification with it probably a month earlier, and it wasn't cracked when I cleaned it after that range trip.

S&W took care of it in fine fashion. When they called me to ask what I wanted them to do, I asked for another 642 with no lock. They didn't have a standard one in inventory at that moment and so sent me one of the 'Pro' models cut for moonclips. They sent the replacement directly to me; I guess that may vary from state to state.

I was fond of my original gun and hated to lose it, but mechanical things wear and can break, and S&W takes care of their customers better than the makers of anything else I have owned. When the tranny went out on my 20 year old pickup truck, as an example, Ford didn't offer to send me a new one!
 
Thanks...

It sure is, off to the right a bit, looking towards the front sight. I've seen so many posts thru the years about cracked frames on this forum, now I know how it feels.
Thing is I've been carrying this gun for awhile and checked for cracks not that long ago. Appears it can be fine one day and not the next.

Thanks for checking that out for me! As others have already stated Smith will take care of you, as they have always done in the past.
 
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