post your M&P sport round count

[ocinsomniac]

I'm stayin' outta this one.......don't have a Sport, but I've got an MP-15. Gonna be interesting to see the results, but I think it's gonna take a long, long time to measure any results.

 

[SSgt M]

I'm stayin' outta this one.......don't have a Sport, but I've got an MP-15. Gonna be interesting to see the results, but I think it's gonna take a long, long time to measure any results.

That's all I wanted, was a single place to track issues and round results on the Sport, as it's considered entry level junk that will never perform.

 

[crracer_712]

I don't think anyone around here considers it 'junk' that will not perform. Entry level yes, because it's the cheapest one you can buy in the M&P line. Price being the lowest is why. You really should not sweat the small stuff (in this case, what others think about your rifle)

 

[hardluk1]

This maybe where the high round count can be found . Rifls where tsted at Gubsite Academy-http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/benjamin-t-shotzberger/%EF%BB%BF-gun-review-smith-and-wesson-mp15-sport/

Also read this on the melonite coating, Might wake up some folks. Found at ar15 site. - Several tread there to read-http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/02/shot-show-report-mmi-trutec-salt-bath-nitriding-for-barrels/

Guess you will have to look it up!!

 

[oneyeopn]

This maybe where the high round count can be found . Rifls where tsted at Gubsite Academy-http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/benjamin-t-shotzberger/%EF%BB%BF-gun-review-smith-and-wesson-mp15-sport/

Also read this on the melonite coating, Might wake up some folks. Found at ar15 site. - Several tread there to read-http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/02/shot-show-report-mmi-trutec-salt-bath-nitriding-for-barrels/

Guess you will have to look it up!!

You want to study on Melonite look at this thread, I did a lot of studying to find everything I can on Melonite..it is a bit of a technical read but it will show you that chrome and the Melonite treatment arent even close, with chrome a distant last:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p15-rifle/213731-barrel-specs-sport.html:D

 

[crracer_712]

Hey Grover, your link took me to the Smith & Wesson forums menus.

 

[JaPes]

Here's the important parts I picked out:

What I do see here is (not just this thread) people needing to justify their sport, why, I have no idea. It's a rifle, it shoots.

...Just enjoy the rifle, just my observation, but some sport owners go around with a chip on their shoulder. Who cares what someone else thinks of your rifle.

...it's just another AR, like all the others that vary in the features they come with/without.

^These core statements ring true to me. I've voiced similar opinions in other threads.

My 15-Sport works for me. That's all that matters.

...Entry level yes, because it's the cheapest one you can buy in the M&P line. Price being the lowest is why. You really should not sweat the small stuff (in this case, what others think about your rifle)

Crracer, very insightful.

The 15-Sport is an entry level priced rifle. Don't infer any negative connotation from the phrase "entry level" that implies low quality. The S&W biased audience on this forum will agree that the 15-Sport represents a good value for the dollar.

As CCracer alluded to earlier; an AR pattern rifle is an AR pattern rifle is an AR pattern rifle. The overall design & function of a direct impingement AR is the same.

Don't sweat the small stuff. Just enjoy your rifle.

This board could never turn in to a m4carbine.net type board, 3/4 of the threads on here are about sports. Basically the same threads, just started over and over.

...Do we really need a thread that says 'what scope for my sport'? A scope for the sport is going to be the same as a scope for any other AR type rifle and it's going to depend on what you want to shoot and how you shoot your rifle.

Don't forget CCracer, the 15-Sport is an entry level priced rifle that is a good value for the dollar. The 15-Sport's attractive price point brings more firearms enthusiasts that are new to the AR platform. So yes, there will be more threads about the 15-Sport and more posters specifically identifying the 15-Sport in their threads.

From your perspective, and admittedly my own, you see the same subject(s) being repeated over and over. From the perspective of the new to the AR platform M&P 15 owner, they're asking the question for the first time.

If it ever gets repetitive and annoying for me, I'll not participate in the thread. I sense that Dragon88 has been there & done that so many times, it's grating on his nerves a bit. Even though this may be the case, he pops in every once in the while when he notices we're way off track.

 

[crracer_712]

Actually, I really don't care about the repetative threads. If I can answer the same question again and again, I'd just as soon do that instead of pointing someone to an existing thread.

The one that really made me laugh was the one wanting to know what lube to use on the sport. I'm glad M&P makes the sport, it's price attracts more people to S&W. Not that I have a buck in S&W, but I do like the company. Lots of people knock DPMS as well, but between the Sport and DPMS, a lot of new people are taking a serious look at AR's. The more people that get in to AR's, I think maybe the less sinister they'll be viewed.

If someone really wanted to talk about entry level, they could talk about my New Frontier Armory plastic lower (99 bucks) and my DPMS A3 flat top oracle upper with lightweight barrel (383.00). No melontie, no chrome lined barrel. I believe it's 4140 CMV 1:9 twist ta boot.

Post that at the top of any forum and let em flame away. Won't bother me in the least, will probably give me a good laugh at the ignorance spewing about.

 

[JaPes]

If someone really wanted to talk about entry level, they could talk about my New Frontier Armory plastic lower (99 bucks) and my DPMS A3 flat top oracle upper with lightweight barrel (383.00). No melontie, no chrome lined barrel. I believe it's 4140 CMV 1:9 twist ta boot.

Was that the complete lower offered at joeboboutfitters.com?

A complete AR for $482?!? Now that's a deal.

 

[oneyeopn]

Hey Grover, your link took me to the Smith & Wesson forums menus.

I was trying to linkback to the thread where I posted all the information about the melonite treatment. Lets see if this works;

I was doing some research on the difference between chrome lined barrels and Melonite. If you want to read something interesting check out the friction coefficient between the two. In the following attachment they show that the friction difference is tremendous with Melonite winning by a mile. It is very much a technical read but after reading posts by the people in this forum I feel that everyone will understand it.

Wear Resistant Coating, QPQ, Melonite, California

and two explaining Melonite and the Melonite Process, it is a treatment not a plating.

Melonite Processing

http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/...-ferritic.html


QPQ, Corrosion Resistance, Nitrocaburizing Process

after studying this I believe that you will understand why I would look for a Melonite treated barrel over a chrome lined barrel any day. I hope you enjoy these articles and Have a wonderful Day

This is something that I keep repeating every so often when newer people start asking about Melonite vs Chrome!!
p.s. My round count is up to 750 and I have a lot of reloading to do!!

 

[crracer_712]

Was that the complete lower offered at joeboboutfitters.com?

A complete AR for $482?!? Now that's a deal.

Yeah, got it at Joebob's, well, getting it. They said 5 to 10 days to ship, but they've been selling so fast, they were out when I ordered, got 200 lowers in today and said mine would ship out in this batch, had another 400 coming in Thursday.

I was just trying to put one together for less than 500 and have it light weight. Got some of that exploding target that 22 won't set off, so wanted another 223 the boys could use when we blow stuff up.

Grover, I figured that was the thread you were going to link too, but couldn't find it, or I would have link in my post.

 

[SSgt M]

Crracer, what's that weigh.... 5 lbs ???
Sound cool

 

[oneyeopn]

Rod it took me a couple of minutes to find it!!

 

[crracer_712]

Crracer, what's that weigh.... 5 lbs ???
Sound cool

I'll have to weigh it and post it. What I don't like about it is the roll mark. I like cool stuff like Zombies and skulls n stuff like that. This says New Frontier Armory, in a font like you might have seen in the old westerns.

That, and it comes with a commercial buffer tube instead of mil-spec. Apparently Commercial is cheaper than mil-spec, and they were wanting to hit a certain price point for a complete lower.

 

[crracer_712]

Crracer, what's that weigh.... 5 lbs ???
Sound cool

Grover might post a picture of it, but I weighed it with a empty 30 rnd mag and it was 6 lbs even. Put a loaded 20 rnd mag in and it hit 6.6 lbs. That was with a TruGlo Red dot 2x40.

 

[oneyeopn]

Here is the rifle that Crracer had been talking about coming in at under $500.....

 

[PntbalBob]

Nice post Oneyeopn! That the kind of stuff a a new rifle owner wants to see. I think keeping track of this info will be need for my melonite coated brothers and myself. I'm loving this rifle! It feels good. It's soild. Doesn't sound like **** when firing, like the DMPS that my buddy bought.

Round count: 400 Federal 62 gr xm855 NATO green tip
No Problems!

 

[crracer_712]

Nice post Oneyeopn! That the kind of stuff a a new rifle owner wants to see. I think keeping track of this info will be need for my melonite coated brothers and myself. I'm loving this rifle! It feels good. It's soild. Doesn't sound like **** when firing, like the DMPS that my buddy bought.

Round count: 400 Federal 62 gr xm855 NATO green tip
No Problems!

Just a FYI, perhaps the DPMS your buddy has, has a dry buffer spring. Have him try a light coat of grease on the spring to quiten it down. If it's not the spring, I'm not sure what else there is on an AR that can sound like ****. Anyway, I garnered the idea off the 300 AAC blackout forum from those complaining about buffer spring noise when shooting subsonics with a silencer. Might be worth a try, and after all, that's what buddies are for (unless he's not really a buddy and more like a pretend buddy...)

 

[PntbalBob]

I don't think he really noticed or even cares. I'm pretty sure his AR buy was impulsive. Just didn't sound as solid as my 15-Sport.

 

[crracer_712]

While I haven't heard a sport, to compare it sound wise, over any other AR, there is a thread on here about people saying its loud. Perhaps it muffles the spring slap in the buffer tube....

At times, when I'm shooting my M&P15A, I hear the spring slap, other times I don't.