To the owner's of the slide fire stock

Squirrel Master said:
It looks like Slide Fire makes a stock for AR-15 & the M&P 15/22. My local Grady's has these stocks in stock, but I think they are for the AR-15. I asked an employee if the particular stock would fit the M&P 15/22, and he said yes, but he didn't look a day older than 16, and the older gentlemen couldn't tell me much either. They put it on an M&P15 not to be confused with the 15/22. Anyone know for sure? I'm wondering if both work, but the M&P15 version is the one that requires modification to fit ???
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The standard AR will fit the M&P 15-22 I had one and after having Robbie Wheaton replace the trigger and add the muzzle break it ran flawlessly. If you are talking about Grady's in Anderson, save yourself some time and just call Robbie, he is in Powdersville.
 
I used to swap my Slide fire from my M&P 15-22 to my M&P 15 Sport all the time.... But I was shooting WAY to many .223, even thou I re-load .223:D

So Now its dedicated to my 15-22


Also swapping back and forth made it harder on my technique for the 15-22... and kept thinking my 15-22 was having issues... when it was really just me... so easy ta dump mgas in a AR15 but even with timney Trigger still takes some technique with the 15-22

So keep that in Mind also


Love the slide fire... Stupid Retarded Fun Times for sure...:D
 
Hudgehog said:
The standard AR will fit the M&P 15-22 I had one and after having Robbie Wheaton replace the trigger and add the muzzle break it ran flawlessly. If you are talking about Grady's in Anderson, save yourself some time and just call Robbie, he is in Powdersville.
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That's the best news I heard all month! I had plans to contact him about the muzzle break, and it turns out, he is 5 minutes up the road :D . My Lucky day! Thanks HudgeHog.
 
Blades said:
Best advice at this point I think is you need to do some reading. You don't seem to have even basic knowledge of the rifle, there is a wealth of information on this site. Take some time and search and read, you'll be much better off.
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You are correct. I do not have much basic knowledge of the rifle, or any for that matter. I am here to learn however. Sorry to annoy you with my questions about the stock, but I have searched and read previous post. Watched tons of videos. The problem is, most post and videos are out dated, and most products have been updated. So, as a guy who is just getting his feet wet, it becomes a little confusing. I am taking advantage of the knowledge provided by the sites members, but if there is a contradictory post, or a topic that is out of date, or I have a question that I can't find the answer to via post, or video, then I feel it should be ok to ask the question.

I called Slide Fire, and they said all the stocks were on back order anyway. I then asked if the 15/22 model would fit a standard AR despite the sku # difference. The answer was "NO". I was told they have different SKU's for a reason. That being said, not a few moments later, I am hearing guys that swap them from a 15/22 to a standard AR on the regular. So when it becomes unclear to me, again, I inquire.

I apologize Blades. The last thing I am here to do is annoy anyone. I just felt with my lack of knowledge, and a two sided answer from the "people" & the "company", it would be ok to post the particular question.
 
Ok, here's the deal from my experience anyway. I have a slide fire SBS stock. I easily switch it between my AR-15 and 15-22 MOE. If you look on slide fire's website, you will see that the one they have for the 15-22 is the same SBS stock. The only difference is that it is in a kit that includes a 3.5# trigger and a recoil enhancer. Like I said though, the stock is the same.

When on my 15-22 MOE, the only thing I did to my rifle was take off the quick disconnect for the rear sling mount. Not the mount itself but just the quick disconnect. Then I added the JP yellow trigger spring kit. Thats all. It works pretty well too. Needs a little practice to get used to though. I have heard though that changing out the trigger itself to a lighter pull unit is best. I just didn't have the extra money at the time to buy it.
 
Squirrel Master said:
You are correct. I do not have much basic knowledge of the rifle, or any for that matter. I am here to learn however. Sorry to annoy you with my questions about the stock, but I have searched and read previous post. Watched tons of videos. The problem is, most post and videos are out dated, and most products have been updated. So, as a guy who is just getting his feet wet, it becomes a little confusing. I am taking advantage of the knowledge provided by the sites members, but if there is a contradictory post, or a topic that is out of date, or I have a question that I can't find the answer to via post, or video, then I feel it should be ok to ask the question.

I called Slide Fire, and they said all the stocks were on back order anyway. I then asked if the 15/22 model would fit a standard AR despite the sku # difference. The answer was "NO". I was told they have different SKU's for a reason. That being said, not a few moments later, I am hearing guys that swap them from a 15/22 to a standard AR on the regular. So when it becomes unclear to me, again, I inquire.

I apologize Blades. The last thing I am here to do is annoy anyone. I just felt with my lack of knowledge, and a two sided answer from the "people" & the "company", it would be ok to post the particular question.
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I am not annoyed Squirrel, sorry you thought that. I read your earlier posts and thought you didn't have much knowledge about the rifle. When I read the later post you made about the AR stock not fitting, I came away from that one thinking you know even less than I first thought.

The stock question has nothing to do with it having a special stock for the other. The same works on both, they both have to have mil-spec tubes to work.

I thought the best advice was for you to read for several hours today. I think you need to learn the weapon first and the toys later. read read read....search search search....ask ask ask.

I saw rifle, slidefire, trigger assembly, eotech. From what your plan is your throwing ballpark $1800 at a weapon you have no clue about. I was trying to get you to see that you need to be in serious research mode.

As far as the eotech goes. I have two eotechs and one aimpoint that still has enemy sand on it. I love them both and wouldnt trade them out. But for a .22 rifle you don't have to spend $500 on an optic. Your 15-22 has maybe %5-%10 percent of the recoil of an ar-15. There are scopes out there that will hold 0 for hundreds less. Your choice of course, just putting it out there for you to consider.
 
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Blades said:
I am not annoyed Squirrel, sorry you thought that. I read your earlier posts and thought you didn't have much knowledge about the rifle. When I read the later post you made about the AR stock not fitting, I came away from that one thinking you know even less than I first thought.

The stock question has nothing to do with it having a special stock for the other. The same works on both, they both have to have mil-spec tubes to work.

I thought the best advice was for you to read for several hours today. I think you need to learn the weapon first and the toys later. read read read....search search search....ask ask ask.

I saw rifle, slidefire, trigger assembly, eotech. From what your plan is your throwing ballpark $1800 at a weapon you have no clue about. I was trying to get you to see that you need to be in serious research mode.

As far as the eotech goes. I have two eotechs and one aimpoint that still has enemy sand on it. I love them both and wouldnt trade them out. But for a .22 rifle you don't have to spend $500 on an optic. Your 15-22 has maybe %5-%10 percent of the recoil of an ar-15. There are scopes out there that will hold 0 for hundreds less. Your choice of course, just putting it out there for you to consider.
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Good to know I wasn't pushing your buttons Blades, as that was not my intention. You are absolutely right. Instead of making impulse decisions, I really do need to sit back, reasearch, learn, ask, retain, then perhaps purchase. I am not ashamed to admit, at this point, I don't even know how to field strip this weapon. However, I am determined to learn. This is my first rifle, and after comparison & research to the other available AR style .22's, I knew the S&W M&P 15-22 was for me. Appreciate the wake up call. :cool:
 
It is too bad S&W no longer offers their fully modded 15-22 with stock-3.5#trigger and reverse muzzle break.

With CCI Mini Mags in a 50rnd drum it is a blast. An old timer was at the range last week and came down to my lane and demanded to now what is all this "rock and roll" he is hearing! He said it with a smile..and was intrigued by the gun.
 
fordmustangfan67 said:
Ok, here's the deal from my experience anyway. I have a slide fire SBS stock. I easily switch it between my AR-15 and 15-22 MOE. If you look on slide fire's website, you will see that the one they have for the 15-22 is the same SBS stock. The only difference is that it is in a kit that includes a 3.5# trigger and a recoil enhancer. Like I said though, the stock is the same.

When on my 15-22 MOE, the only thing I did to my rifle was take off the quick disconnect for the rear sling mount. Not the mount itself but just the quick disconnect. Then I added the JP yellow trigger spring kit. Thats all. It works pretty well too. Needs a little practice to get used to though. I have heard though that changing out the trigger itself to a lighter pull unit is best. I just didn't have the extra money at the time to buy it.
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That's exactly what I did for exactly the same reasons and I've been very pleased with mine. It's not like I keep it in auto mode all the time. It takes some practice and I know it would be better with a complete trigger assembly and a reverse muzzle brake but that's more money than I wanted to spend just to dump a mag or two during range visits just for fun. Could it be better? Yes. Worth another $400. Not in my opinion.
 
Blades said:
The stock question has nothing to do with it having a special stock for the other. The same works on both, they both have to have mil-spec tubes to work.
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I understand that. However if you go to the Slide Fire website, they have one displayed specifically for the 15/22, & another for the regular AR with different SKU #'s. Now given they have the same mil-spec tubes, you would think they all would co-exist. I was informed by Slide Fire that they would not, but I can't understand the logic to their answer.

So then I thought, ok, maybe he meant it will fit, but with modification b/c of the the trigger gaurd. In older post, lots of guys were shaving down or modifying the slide to get it to work.

Anyway, the reason I was asking is b/c Slide Fire stocks are on back order from the factory, and a local store has two in stock. But, the SKU # is that of the one the Slide Fire employee said would not fit.

When you hear something does fit, and then hear the same thing doesn't fit, and to add, you're already new to this, it becomes confusing. I would like to purchase one, but I wanted to be sure it would fit before I shelled out $400.
 
They all work. The only one that didn't was the 1st version of the OGR, which would fit it you shaved a little material off. Any of the SBS models will fit.
 
Squirrel Master said:
I understand that. However if you go to the Slide Fire website, they have one displayed specifically for the 15/22, & another for the regular AR with different SKU #'s. Now given they have the same mil-spec tubes, you would think they all would co-exist. I was informed by Slide Fire that they would not, but I can't understand the logic to their answer.

So then I thought, ok, maybe he meant it will fit, but with modification b/c of the the trigger gaurd. In older post, lots of guys were shaving down or modifying the slide to get it to work.

Anyway, the reason I was asking is b/c Slide Fire stocks are on back order from the factory, and a local store has two in stock. But, the SKU # is that of the one the Slide Fire employee said would not fit.

When you hear something does fit, and then hear the same thing doesn't fit, and to add, you're already new to this, it becomes confusing. I would like to purchase one, but I wanted to be sure it would fit before I shelled out $400.
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As has been said repeatedly, it will work. Having said that, if I were dealing with a LGS and they wouldn't take it back if it didn't, I wouldn't do business with them anyway. Maybe it's just me.
 
Post #10 shows exactly what you need. When you click on the link. It's the first slide fire pictured. It's very easy to install. That and the trigger.
 
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Squirrel Master said:
I understand that. However if you go to the Slide Fire website, they have one displayed specifically for the 15/22, & another for the regular AR with different SKU #'s. Now given they have the same mil-spec tubes, you would think they all would co-exist. I was informed by Slide Fire that they would not, but I can't understand the logic to their answer.

So then I thought, ok, maybe he meant it will fit, but with modification b/c of the the trigger gaurd. In older post, lots of guys were shaving down or modifying the slide to get it to work.

Anyway, the reason I was asking is b/c Slide Fire stocks are on back order from the factory, and a local store has two in stock. But, the SKU # is that of the one the Slide Fire employee said would not fit.

When you hear something does fit, and then hear the same thing doesn't fit, and to add, you're already new to this, it becomes confusing. I would like to purchase one, but I wanted to be sure it would fit before I shelled out $400.
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For the hell of it I went to the website. The different sku number is for a "kit" for the 15-22. In the kit they list the exact same sku as for the ar-15. What's the problem?

M&P 15-22
Includes:
SSAR-15® SBS (Right or Left Handed)
3.5# Curved Trigger
Recoil Enhancer
Interface Block
Hex Key
Instructions

AR-15
Includes:
SSAR-15® SBS Rifle Stock. (Right or Left Handed)
Interface Block.
Hex Key.
Instructions.
 
Blades said:
For the hell of it I went to the website. The different sku number is for a "kit" for the 15-22. In the kit they list the exact same sku as for the ar-15. What's the problem?

M&P 15-22
Includes:
SSAR-15® SBS (Right or Left Handed)
3.5# Curved Trigger
Recoil Enhancer
Interface Block
Hex Key
Instructions

AR-15
Includes:
SSAR-15® SBS Rifle Stock. (Right or Left Handed)
Interface Block.
Hex Key.
Instructions.
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Apologies blades. I kept referring to it as a SKU #, when in fact it was the actual part number. For the one listed under the 15/22 the part number is 30-100. For the AR-15 that looks identical (SBS style) the part number was 10-020.

I see now, it's because the one listed under the 15/22 is a kit. Includes muzzle break, and trigger kit. That explains the part number difference, but it doesn't explain why a customer service rep said the AR-15 part numbers are for AR-15's, and the 15-22 part numbers are for the 15-22's and would not interchange. I guess they hire people and don't expect for them to have product knowledge. :confused:

It seems some people (myself including) aren't fully up to speed on these. I went to a LGS and spoke to a guy in his 30's. He has been an employee there for as long as I can remember. After speaking to a kid on the subject, I asked him about the Slide Fire stock, and if it would fit the S&W M&P 15-22. Today, this is the answer he gave me to my face, with a straight face... "No sir, the model you're referring has a different size buffer tube. Or He may have said it doesn't have one at all. Infact, it won't work on any .22 rifle. There isn't enough recoil on a .22. It's made for the real deal AR." I politely told him thank you, and walked away thinking, clearly he doesn't know about the muzzle break, and trigger. And/Or hasn't been on youtube, like ever ;)

Sorry to ramble. Once the "Owners of the slide fire stock)" posted, I realized then to listen to them. Despite the incorrect info from the company & employees of the LGS.
 
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Ok, so the original SBS did fit on the 15-22, but had to be modified because it hit the trigger guard. The SBS V.2 (version 2) was put out for that reason and has a cutout to fit around the trigger guard. The SF website doesn't mention V.2 anywhere I believe because they just produce all of them that way now. The SBS looks way better than the OGR anyway IMO. Just get the SBS, even if it's not a V.2, the modification is very simple, spend the money on a good 3 lb trigger, and as Stav would say "Have stupid retarded fun all day long!!"

Really, if you're going to do it, spend some money on a trigger. It'll save you hassles and frustration in the long run.
 
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