Ending the Panic

[eplacentia]

I received an email from Midway this morning alerting me that they had .cases of .223 in stock. When I checked, it was already gone. I panicked for a second or three then calmly erased the email and moved on. About a month ago, I would've been on the phone with Midway, frantically refreshing the page or checking all the forums for updates. I bought my .223 as a fun gun not for defense and not for training. I don't need thousands of rounds. I have plenty now. We all need to sacrifice that fleeting euphoric feeling we get when we "score" ammo and just say to yourself that "I'm doing my part to end this panic".

 

[str8liner]

I just hope we get the results we want in the next election.

This last one left me speechless and totally depressed.

I'm buying what I can, when I can find it.

Same with me....Anyone who is waiting around for ammo to fill the shelves and return to "normal" prices is in for a rude awakening...

I liken it to gas prices...If it goes to 5.00 a gallon and they see demand stay steady you can bet the cheapest you will ever see it again will be 4.85...

The ammo mfgs have to see the current state of ammo prices and realize what people are paying for it...

 

[phillyfan21]

Same with me....Anyone who is waiting around for ammo to fill the shelves and return to "normal" prices is in for a rude awakening...

I liken it to gas prices...If it goes to 5.00 a gallon and they see demand stay steady you can bet the cheapest you will ever see it again will be 4.85...

The ammo mfgs have to see the current state of ammo prices and realize what people are paying for it...

I agree why would they lower prices when you see a 525 brick of 22lr for $49.99 selling out within seconds why lower prices. If anything they will raise prices.

 

[rwsmith]

I admire....

I admire your self control and presence of mind and you are very right on all points. If the guy wasn't acting like a *******, I probably would have gone ahead and bought a box, though.

 

[Hemi392]

store rations

Funny thing happened to me today, I was working in a small town in the Catskills and I stopped by a gun shop that was near my job so I figured I'd go in and see if they had 223, and sure enough they did, a lot of it, so I asked to get some and was told limit was 2 boxes IF I bought something else in the store (non- ammo). He then pointed out that I could get the 556 with no additional purchase, but only 2 boxes. WOW, crazy man... so I bought 2 of the 556, I just want some 223, what's a guy gotta do??

 

[Diablo982]

Same with me....Anyone who is waiting around for ammo to fill the shelves and return to "normal" prices is in for a rude awakening...

I liken it to gas prices...If it goes to 5.00 a gallon and they see demand stay steady you can bet the cheapest you will ever see it again will be 4.85...

The ammo mfgs have to see the current state of ammo prices and realize what people are paying for it...

I think the difference between gas prices and ammo prices is necessity. Because we are so dependent on our cars, the breaking point for gas is pretty high. At what point would you stop driving? $10 a gallon, maybe $15? Ammo on the other hand is a luxury. With the exception of law enforcement, gun range owners and professional shooters, nobody NEEDS ammo. If prices stay high or continue to rise, the demand will fall. Some will turn to golf. Others will shoot a lot less. Either way, I don't think ammo manufacturers can raise the prices significantly long-term and keep selling at this volume.

 

[forestswin]

I admire your self control and presence of mind and you are very right on all points. If the guy wasn't acting like a *******, I probably would have gone ahead and bought a box, though.

Wow I just read that

I admire your self control and presence of mind and you are very right on all points. If the guy wasn't acting like a *******, I probably would have gone ahead and bought a box, though.

Wow I just read that

 

[Old TexMex]

I think the difference between gas prices and ammo prices is necessity. Because we are so dependent on our cars, the breaking point for gas is pretty high. At what point would you stop driving? $10 a gallon, maybe $15? Ammo on the other hand is a luxury. With the exception of law enforcement, gun range owners and professional shooters, nobody NEEDS ammo. If prices stay high or continue to rise, the demand will fall. Some will turn to golf. Others will shoot a lot less. Either way, I don't think ammo manufacturers can raise the prices significantly long-term and keep selling at this volume.

I don't mean any disrespect, let me make that clear first off, please.

I can't agree with the idea that only law enforcement, military and sport shooters NEED ammo. The Constitution that I swore to uphold says I have the right to ammo, as that is part and parcel to being armed for the defense of my home, family, and country.
When seconds count, the police down this way might well be more than minutes away. Unfortunately.

 

[Buford57]

They have multiple signs spaced about 6' apart along the ammo shelves at the Cabela's I shop. They have a few simple statements on them outlining the current policy on restrictions of ammo. Maybe you could tell the person a sign would be helpful.

That being said, I've watched people grab a half dozen 100 round boxes of CCI ammo from the shelf that is just inches from the sign saying limit of one 100 round box. Either people don't see it, they don't care, or they can't read. They'll always be that 10%.

They had signs at the cash registers, just not by the ammo shelves. I am thankful the clerk mentioned it before I got clear downstairs and to the register.

 

[shortrange]

I really hate to be the messenger, but this is the new norm. Ammunition and the gun business in general will never be the same. Although the panic will subside to some degree, don't expect our country to ever be the same. I am afraid it is a little too late. That being said I will shoot and enjoy the shooting sports and try to not watch as our freedoms and way of life are destroyed. Shoot em while you can.

 

[Malpasowildlifer]

I like how some "gun shop commandos" like to play up how there is no end in sight for the "craziness"......then they brag how they have plenty of their own ammo at home.

 

[jkc]

So, while perusing the very well-stocked racks at Spragues Sport Shop in Yuma, yesterday, I spied a Savage MK II .22, checked it out, thought it over, overnight, and bought it this afternoon. During the paperwork, 4473, etc., processing, the salesperson leaned across the counter, and whispered, "I can sell you a brick of ammo, too, with the gun purchase." As there were no "bricks" and little other .22 rimfire ammo on the sales floor, he seemed to think that this was a significant "value added" perquisite of my purchase, and it may have been to some, but I declined, declaring that I had sufficient .22 ammo on hand. Another recent post chided those of us who prudently "stocked up" as "hoarders", but here's an example of the obverse...

 

[str8liner]

I am not much into crisis analysis but I can see a marked improvement in my area of PA in the last few weeks.

Ammo is showing up at local gun shops and our walmart has had 45acp and 40 s&W on the shelves all week.

Twice in the last week they have gotten several cases of ammo and even though the 22lr and 9mm are flying off the shelves everyone who shows up on time gets some.

Its getting better!

 

[chud333]

I really hate to be the messenger, but this is the new norm. Ammunition and the gun business in general will never be the same. Although the panic will subside to some degree, don't expect our country to ever be the same. I am afraid it is a little too late. That being said I will shoot and enjoy the shooting sports and try to not watch as our freedoms and way of life are destroyed. Shoot em while you can.

I lean towards this viewpoint myself. ^^^^^
I still believe we are but one more (mass shooting) by some
deranged idiot to turn the public against all gun owners.
Now i know, i know, it should'nt be this way and hopefully
it won't, but this country has changed and i do not see the
"good times" of old returning for gun owners. I'll get out and
enjoy my sport and buy ammo when i can (at reasonable
prices). I'll also continue to reload for my centerfires.
I'll pray for the best for my grandchildren and try to leave them
what is needed for them to enjoy what i have experienced
in the woods and at the range.

Chuck

 

[EAHILL]

ammo shortage

I first became aware of the MAIN reason for shortages of ammo to the general public and law enforcement agencies throughout the nation.

Sure, there has been a shortage since the re-election of BHO due to hoarders and small businesses. The bulk of the shortage really goes to the DHS which has ordered approx. 1.8 billion rounds. Supposedly for agencies ranging from the CIA all the way down to the US Postal Serivce.

Here is a link for your interest: WND - A Free Press for a Free People

When you get the home page, look for the search bar a few lines down on the right had side and type in "shortage of ammo traced to government".

Hope this helps.

 

[Diablo982]

I first became aware of the MAIN reason for shortages of ammo to the general public and law enforcement agencies throughout the nation.

Sure, there has been a shortage since the re-election of BHO due to hoarders and small businesses. The bulk of the shortage really goes to the DHS which has ordered approx. 1.8 billion rounds. Supposedly for agencies ranging from the CIA all the way down to the US Postal Serivce.

Here is a link for your interest: WND - A Free Press for a Free People

When you get the home page, look for the search bar a few lines down on the right had side and type in "shortage of ammo traced to government".

Hope this helps.

No offense, but this theory has been debunked over and over. First, DHS has not bought 1.8 billion rounds of ammo. DHS contacted to purchase "up to" 1.6 billion rounds over five years, but to date have not purchased anywhere near that amount. Secondly, govt ammo purchases have remained steady for years. These recently coming to light purchases have no bearing on the shortages. Check Federal ammunition's FAQ section for confirmation:

Federal Premium Ammunition - FAQ

The shortage started after Sandy Hook. We (gun owners) became panicky for fear of regulation, taxes, etc and emptied the shelves.

 

[loveMD]

Panick buying implies theres ammo on the shelf to buy. Around here anyway theres alot of panic looking, supply is not there. I could see if people were walkin out with pallets, but the reality is two people are walking out w the six boxes that arrive weekly at my local wally.

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[sigp220.45]

No offense, but this theory has been debunked over and over. First, DHS has not bought 1.8 billion rounds of ammo. DHS contacted to purchase "up to" 1.6 billion rounds over five years, but to date have not purchased anywhere near that amount. Secondly, govt ammo purchases have remained steady for years. These recently coming to light purchases have no bearing on the shortages. Check Federal ammunition's FAQ section for confirmation:

Federal Premium Ammunition - FAQ

The shortage started after Sandy Hook. We (gun owners) became panicky for fear of regulation, taxes, etc and emptied the shelves.

How true this is. DHS isn't buying .22 Long Rifle, and these proposed contracts are for .40 cal ammo - which there seems to be plenty of on the shelves here. No 9mm or .22 though - which are the calibers being gobbled up by all the Nervous Normans.

I was in my local joint the day after all the proposed federal gun restrictions failed. There were three 100 round boxes of Winchester .45 ball, marked $59.99 each. A young Navajo guy came in, saw the ammo, and RAN over to the shelf (I was the only other customer there, and I wasn't reaching for it). He looked at me and said - They have .45s! I said yeah, the panic's over - nothing passed. He grabbed one box, then grabbed the other two. The clerk rang it up - with tax it was just under two hundred bucks. He looked a little surprised, put his cash away, and paid with a credit card.

I bet that kid never bought more than 50 rounds of ammo at a time in his life before this madness.

Stuff like that is why there are shortages, not government conspiracies.

 

[El Bombardero]

Your thoughts?

yeah, which cabela's? I need CCI really bad right now.

 

[El Bombardero]

Personally I blame Smith and Wesson for the .22 shortage. They created this shortage when they started selling the 15-22. .22 has never been more awesome to shoot than it is right now with that rifle.