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I think it would be better to just march with everyone holding a 30 round magazine in their hand.
Adam Kokesh's March?
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DigiRebel
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The interesting thing with all of this is that he's well within his First Amendment rights to do this. Case in point, when the ladies protesting "top freedom" in Florida marched topless were arrested they were released because marching topless was a protected first amendment protest. In short they still couldn't go topless on the beach, but if they had a sign, they could.
I think comparing the numbers of people who've been at various protests (especially if you want to say 1,000 isn't enough) is faulty at best. The number of people marching can easily be inflated or deflated depending on who's doing the reporting. There have been plenty of "Million Man (or woman, or mom, or alpaca, or whatever)" marches, I don't think a single one has hit 1 million people yet, with the largest being 100,000. MOST are about 3-500 people. The Million Mom anti-2nd amendment rally was about 500 people total. His number is at 1,000 because he wants to show the majority of these marches up.
Do I think this is a good idea though? No. It strikes me that he's hoping for a Kent State, or maybe a John Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry.
The real issue is you'd be marching among a group of people you don't know. Do you really trust that everyone there will be on the level and looking for a peaceable solution to the debate? How many of that thousand will be looking for their own personal Fort Sumter.
No thanks.
I think comparing the numbers of people who've been at various protests (especially if you want to say 1,000 isn't enough) is faulty at best. The number of people marching can easily be inflated or deflated depending on who's doing the reporting. There have been plenty of "Million Man (or woman, or mom, or alpaca, or whatever)" marches, I don't think a single one has hit 1 million people yet, with the largest being 100,000. MOST are about 3-500 people. The Million Mom anti-2nd amendment rally was about 500 people total. His number is at 1,000 because he wants to show the majority of these marches up.
Do I think this is a good idea though? No. It strikes me that he's hoping for a Kent State, or maybe a John Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry.
The real issue is you'd be marching among a group of people you don't know. Do you really trust that everyone there will be on the level and looking for a peaceable solution to the debate? How many of that thousand will be looking for their own personal Fort Sumter.
No thanks.
MrJT
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I disagree. In a time when opponents are claiming that 90% of Americans want universal background checks, and that a majority want new gun laws of some sort, a poor display of second amendment supporters would work in their favor. They would say it proves their point. Of all the gun owners in America, only 1000 showed up in support of this.
Look back just a few years ago at the Glenn Beck rally or the John Stewart and Stephen Colbert rally. Those events were huge. Talking about rallies these days, 1000 people is miniscule.
If you think the number of those protesting is not important, you are mistaken. Many Americans lack the ability to form an opinion on their own. A large showing of those in support of the second amendment could show them that yes, there are indeed many supporters. A rally where they fail to meet their goal of 1000 could reinforce to these same people that, gee, Americans don't support the second amendment.
And estimated 40,000 people rallied this February in Washington demanding climate control action.
Last November, 10,000 people marched calling for an end to the LRA in Africa.
In 2010, 200,000 people showed up for the March for America
My point? Even large rallies don't always get much coverage. But a flop attempt at a 2A rally might.
And if something goes wrong..... It'll cement the idea that those who support "assault rifles" are a small, unstable, fringe group.
DigiRebel
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So you're saying 500,000+ or nothing? What is the critical mass that will force the media to not only report on it, but do so accurately and without injecting opinion?
We all already know that little things like facts, and the truth aren't issues for the media. You know as well as I do that if 1,000 show then the media will carry on about how only about 500 redneck, gun toting losers, who like to murder children showed, while anti-gun rallies where 300 show are covered as though 6.8 Billion people were there.
While I get what you're saying in as far as a small rally could be used to hurt us, I'd argue that a large one could too. Its all spin. Any rally, or march is likely to play on the mass media poorly. They simply aren't interested in facts.
They make that argument EVERY day. They try to prove it with their doctored numbers, and statistical spin every single day. After Boston it took mere hours before they were looking to make a link to guns even though none were involved.
To be clear:
I'm still not in favor of the whole thing...
I am not saying I 100% agree, but to say it is not warranted is not true. Everyday the gun grabbers are pushing for more laws and less rights. This is about the cops/public defenders not agreeing with the judicial system, and doing whatever they want.
In a landmark court case decided five years ago (District of Columbia vs. Heller), the U.S. Supreme Court essentially ordered D.C. to honor the Second Amendment and protect an individual citizen's right to carry a loaded firearm. The Supreme Court decision specifically struck down the portion of previous laws that required all firearms to be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock."
"Sitting at home on your couch and doing nothing is the most dangerous thing of all." And "illegal rule by a group of criminals who have seized power and who willfully violate the law"
Adam Kokesh
In a landmark court case decided five years ago (District of Columbia vs. Heller), the U.S. Supreme Court essentially ordered D.C. to honor the Second Amendment and protect an individual citizen's right to carry a loaded firearm. The Supreme Court decision specifically struck down the portion of previous laws that required all firearms to be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock."
"Sitting at home on your couch and doing nothing is the most dangerous thing of all." And "illegal rule by a group of criminals who have seized power and who willfully violate the law"
Adam Kokesh
