Smiths in 45 Colt Ctg The Ultimate 25 and 625 discussion.Edited June 2014

Hello fellow wheel gun owners,

I had my Model 25-5 chambers measured at a precision machine shop yesterday. We used plug guages and then followed up with special swiss bore micrometers. The chambers measure right at 0.4525 inch. I plan to reload my own cartridges. Any suggestions on what size lead cast bullets to use?

Thanks for sharing!

Kevin Savage
 
25-2 throats and suggested bullets

Hello fellow wheel gun owners,

I had my Model 25-5 chambers measured at a precision machine shop yesterday. We used plug guages and then followed up with special swiss bore micrometers. The chambers measure right at 0.4525 inch. I plan to reload my own cartridges. Any suggestions on what size lead cast bullets to use?

Thanks for sharing!

Kevin Savage

Kevin: I would think your pistol has a non pinned barrel as
thats about when they reduced the chamber throats.

I would think that in jacketed you can use .451 or .452.
In Cast bullets i will quote from the Montana Buillet web site:

"The critical dimension in a revolver to match with a cast bullet is the cylinder throats. A bullet that snugly fits the cylinder throats shoots best. You get a better gas seal and better accuracy with a bullet sized to the cylinder throat dimensions in revolvers."

Therefore in lead bullets use 452 to 453.

regards

Haris
 
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Am I the only one here with one of the Lew Horton 625-7's with a 6.5" Power Ported barrel?

When I bought it I called Smith & Wesson to find out more about it, because from what I could dig up a -7 should have a shorter barrel. They said it might be a Lew Horton gun. I gave them a call, they ran the serial number and said yep, it's one of ours; 1 of 300. As I recall it was made in 1999.

Bill

Hey there Ca Escapee ( me too) .

In the picture of the stainless guns lined up there is a 625-7
power port toward the back. It now sports a scope and does not
get fired as much as I would like to.
These have been slow swllers in the past but today,
who knows?

How about a picture ??

Good luck
Allen Frame
 
Am I the only one here with one of the Lew Horton 625-7's with a 6.5" Power Ported barrel?

When I bought it I called Smith & Wesson to find out more about it, because from what I could dig up a -7 should have a shorter barrel. They said it might be a Lew Horton gun. I gave them a call, they ran the serial number and said yep, it's one of ours; 1 of 300. As I recall it was made in 1999.

Bill


Nope here is a picture of mine!



And as a bonus here is a picture of my 625-5 SDS

 
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One of my two pride and joys is a 25-9 (ssn B ET5585) {the other is a 28 no dash} which I bought new in the 89-90 time frame. I needed a wheel gun to carry as a sidearm for hunting as PA law required.

I changed the grips out to Houge's and have misplace the orignals after several military related moves.

When I get back to my home computer I will post a picture of this gun.
 
Then And Now

Had a 125th Anniversary that I should have kept. Initially I was disappointed in its accuracy, but soon read that Jan Libourel of Guns & Ammo was shooting one of these revolvers with success using a special wadcutter bullet. Corresponded with the man and soon sent off for my Saeco Wadcutter, designed just for the big-mouthed S&W cylinder of that era. As I recall, these dropped from the mold at just the right fit, so I lubed up a bunch and hit the range. I am no master pistol shot, but managed to keep five shots in 2" at 25 yards on most days, shooting from a sitting position with back against a tree.

As I recall, the bore on that gun was not the old standard 0.454", but the newer 0.452." So my oversize wadcutters that fit well through the cylinder were getting squeezed down considerably in this gun that had apparently been put together with a leftover cylinder made when standard bore spec was 0.454". At least I recall that's what the factory told me.

I was also able to buy the old Lyman #454190 mold (flat nose 250 grain) that dropped soft lead bullets at least as large as that special Saeco wadcutter. Those slugs, too, shot quite well in my Anniversary.

You know how the story ends. After conquering the cylinder/barrel/bullet size challenge, I eventually grew bored and sold the revolver. And have regretted it ever since.

Have thought about trying to find an older Model 25 in LC but after reading these posts, I'm inclined to believe I might have been lucky with my 125th model. And with the warning about bashing current production, I guess I won't even ask about the 25-15.
 
I purchased my 4" 25-5 in 1980 and only have about 100 rounds of factory lead bullets through it. It has the pinned barrel and .457 oversize cylinder throats. I haven't reloaded for this pistol, is it worth trying jacketed bullets in or should I purchase a bullet mold and start casting my own for it?
N737585
 




This is my S&W 25-9 in .45LC. I traded for it way back in the 90s at the semi annual Honolulu Gun Show. IIRC, I gave the guy a brand new S&W M60, SS, .38 Special, 2" (?and maybe another handgun?) for it. The cost of my firearms that I traded was about $300 (back then).

For a couple of guns shows after that I tried to sell it. No one wanted it as they were not thought of as "collectable." Not to mention that, SS is much more practicle in Hawaii's climate.

It's NOT FOR SALE.

Aloha, Mark
 
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I bought this M25-5 new in June 1980. Not long afterwards, I roundbutted it to better fit my smallish hands. A few years later, I decided to sell it to my LT at the police department. He carried it a lot over the years before he retired. Back in 2007, I got in touch with my old boss and I asked if he still had this Smith and if he wanted to sell it. He did and it came home in early 2008. It ain't going anywhere from now on.

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I'd love to have a set of pre-lock 4" (or 5") guns including:

  • 25-2
  • 25-5
  • 24-?

I've got:
  • 6" 25-2
  • 3 1/2" 27-2
  • 6" 27-2
  • 4" 29-2
  • 6" 29-2

I've never owned a .45 Colt gun of any kind, or a .44 Special.
 
I am glad this got bumped today. I have been thinking about starting to look for a 625 the last couple of days.
 
I am glad this got bumped today. I have been thinking about starting to look for a 625 the last couple of days.


The competition is stiff, Kid.

Here are a couple recently completed auctions that were GOOD deals.....


Used S&W Model 625-6 45LC 4" : Revolvers at GunBroker.com



Smith Wesson 25 Heritage No Lock NIB : Revolvers at GunBroker.com



And one more. A 26-1 G.S.P. gun . new in case.


GSP 50th Anniversary Smith & Wesson Model 26-1 : Revolvers at GunBroker.com




And a couple that got away,,,,,,,,,



S&W 25-5, 45 COLT, NICKEL, 6 INCH, PRE LOCK : Revolvers at GunBroker.com




Smith & Wesson Model 25 Matte Blue 1989 5" 45 Colt : Revolvers at GunBroker.com



Good Luck.

Allen Frame
 
Which dash variation would be the equivalent to the 629-4's? By that I mean pre-lock and pre-MIM parts but still have the other upgrades.
 
I'll take any chance to post a pic of mine. Love shooting this thing. I took my college age daughter and her boyfriend shooting this weekend. On the way to the range they were teasing me about taking my 'Old Cowboy Looking Gun' along. Both of them shot the .45 and loved it. Shot it much better than Glocks.


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