Ammo flippers are soon to be SOL

[fat tom]

Now if only there were a way to make Cheaper Than Dirt take a fall.

I would revert to using a stick and string before buying ANYTHING from those pukes.
f.t.

 

[Andy Griffith]

I was prepared, as I have a good stock of English flints.

That, and three good flips!

 

[iouri]

I still have seen clowns on last show offering a box of 325 federal for $60... They've had to fix boxes with duct tape though, so I guess those weren't flying.

 

[smokindog]

Hoarders, gougers, and flippers OH MY!

 

[vic3620]

It's coming around

Here in central indiana, it's getting better. A local farm store has about any caliber ammo you want except 22lr.
The other day the mgr. was saying he couldn't find any lrg. Pistol primers,I told him I would sell him some if he gave me a heads up when some 22's came in.. 2 days later I had a 1400 PC bucket of Remingtons
He called me again today with more in stock, I passed on the ones today

Vic3620

 

[joesmith357]

They are still hording in my neck of the woods.

Here too, and WalMart is not getting any ammo. I think the hoarders just ran out of money where people are reporting ammo on shelves.

 

[joesmith357]

Still nothing in South West Florida.

Yes, what's going on with WalMart around here, it's been like they have completely diverted all ammo shipments away from Florida for the past 2 months. I think in all that time I have bought 3 100 round 9mm federal packs and 3 100 round winchesters 9mm.

 

[BJoe]

The antis have figured out that the 2A doesn't cover ammo. Reloaders are on their radar now, too.

I been screaming this for YEARS. Modern firearms, if taken care of, will last hundreds of years. Ammo not so.

 

[Dirty Dan]

Ammunition

Ammo availability must be on a store to store basis, or a regional issue. I have read two threads today saying the ammo crunch was over, blah, blah, blah! Not true in Central Texas. Just got off the phone with WalMart Corporate, asking why my local WM #1254, had not had any rifle, pistol, or rimfire ammo for months. According to the lady who called me back, it is a manufacturer issue. I told her I had it on firm information that WM Stores in Tennessee, and Georgia, were fully stocked. She claimed no knowledge of this. I do not believe WalMart is on top of its game, as they don't even have a policy in place to limit purchases, so everyone can share the meager amount of ammo trickling into my local store. Personally, I have not seen a single box of .22lr on the shelves in six months, The local Academy Store is receiving three shipments per week, but has a limit of one box per caliber, but they ARE getting shipments, routinely. What gives??!! Big Box-No Stocks!

 

[Xtasy]

My Walmart has been out of Ammo for 8 months

 

[jdh]

Cheaper than dirt jacked prices to the level that slowed buying to the point they still had stock. It's basic supply and demand. Walmart did not do this and they ran out. This is how Walmart kills competition, buy undercutting the competition. Now people hate the guys that took steps to keep a balance and won't buy from them leaving Walmart closer to a monopoly. Price gouging would be jacking the price unreasonable on a necessity of life, not a luxury.5000 round of 22 don't count. Cheaper than dirt sponsors all the gun programs I like. I'll buy from them, just not things at stupid prices. I'll buy from Walmart, but I make sure to also buy from the lgs. I doubt any of us would want Walmart as the only choice out there.

Nonsense. CTD used a manufactured crises to, if not gouge then, profiteer at the expense of their customers. A 1000% plus increase in price (a 100 count box of MiniMags for $79.95) once you find out your competitors are out of stock is NOT protecting your inventory levels. Accepting orders at an advertised price then cancelling those orders and repricing to the gouging level is not good business practice and in any industry but this one would lead to the government filing criminal charges for fraud.

Walmart on the other hand maintained their prices at pre-panic levels. How were they able to do so, you may ask. Simple they were wise enough to have contracts in place to purchase certain quantities of product for a certain price. Walmart did not undercut the competition in this case. Walmart chose to stand by their customers and provide them with products at a non-artificially inflated price.

CTD no longer exist in my world. It has more to do with than just their gouging/profiteering in this current situation. Their splitting orders to place multiple inflated shipping and HANDLING charges on that order caused me to look elsewhere before this mess started.

CTDs sponsorship of programs is the same attempt to buy their way back into the good graces of shooters as were WBR Sr's Gifts to the NRA after he help the gun grabbers pass magazine restrictions during the Clinton years. If I could not DVR the shows and zip through their commercials I would not watch those shows.

 

[GaryS]

I think with the pending legislation in California we're still in for a bumpy ride. The antis have figured out that the 2A doesn't cover ammo. Reloaders are on their radar now, too.

I disagree. SCOTUS hasn't ruled directly on this, but they have touched on the use of firearms for self defense. Logically, if you can use a firearm for self defense, ammunition, which is an integral part of a firearm, is protected. Several of the law suits in CO, NY, and CT that are targeting magazine restrictions are using the "commonly used" terminology in Heller to attack the Constitutionality of magazine restrictions. Using that same line of attack is not a stretch.

Remember, the Heller decision hinged on being able to keep firearms that were functional in your home. Functional includes ammunition since without it, the firearm is not functional.

Excessive taxes or permitting requirements on firearms and ammunition should be treated the same way a "poll tax" would be on voting. Or having to buy "libel" insurance before writing a letter to the editor or putting up a blog post.

That's not a matter of politics, it's a matter of law.

 

[PALADIN85020]

OMG....I wish we had the "beating a dead horse" icon on this board.

Here ya go!

John

 

[walkin jack]

Still no sign of improvement here in the Harris County Texas Area. One day last week one of the Academy had a good shipment but it was just that one day and I'm hoping that things will soon normalize across the country.

 

[Budasac]

In response to the comment that CTD only raised prices to keep inventory in stock I call BS. Yes, the law of supply and demand dictates that when there is greater demand people will pay more, but gouging your customers is not a good business practice. (And I hope they suffer in the future as a result.). Walmart did not "undercut" them. They simply chose to continue selling what they had at their regular prices. If CTD wanted to try to keep inventory they would simply have to do what my LGS does, which is to limit buyers to 100 rounds of any cal. They've had .22 CCI standard on the shelves for months. You can't stock up on it, but you can always count on a 100 rounds to hit the range. They're selling them for $4.45 for a box of 50.

 

[perfectcircle1]

Can i get a yada yada yada

 

[Rastoff]

I still have seen clowns on last show offering a box of 325 federal for $60...

There's a guy on this site that has one of those 325 boxed listed for $60. It's embarrassing.

The antis have figured out that the 2A doesn't cover ammo. Reloaders are on their radar now, too.

This is wrong. There has already been one ruling in CA that ammo is integral to the gun.

I disagree. SCOTUS hasn't ruled directly on this, but they have touched on the use of firearms for self defense. Logically, if you can use a firearm for self defense, ammunition, which is an integral part of a firearm, is protected. Several of the law suits in CO, NY, and CT that are targeting magazine restrictions are using the "commonly used" terminology in Heller to attack the Constitutionality of magazine restrictions. Using that same line of attack is not a stretch.

Remember, the Heller decision hinged on being able to keep firearms that were functional in your home. Functional includes ammunition since without it, the firearm is not functional.

Excessive taxes or permitting requirements on firearms and ammunition should be treated the same way a "poll tax" would be on voting. Or having to buy "libel" insurance before writing a letter to the editor or putting up a blog post.

That's not a matter of politics, it's a matter of law.

This is correct.

Y'all need to stop buying into the idea that the anti's have figured out something we can't stop. Get off your butts and get to the polls. More than that, get your buddies out to vote. If the so called "silent majority" would vote, we wouldn't be in the position we're in now.

 

[ladder13]

I disagree. SCOTUS hasn't ruled directly on this, but they have touched on the use of firearms for self defense. Logically, if you can use a firearm for self defense, ammunition, which is an integral part of a firearm, is protected. Several of the law suits in CO, NY, and CT that are targeting magazine restrictions are using the "commonly used" terminology in Heller to attack the Constitutionality of magazine restrictions. Using that same line of attack is not a stretch.

Remember, the Heller decision hinged on being able to keep firearms that were functional in your home. Functional includes ammunition since without it, the firearm is not functional.

Excessive taxes or permitting requirements on firearms and ammunition should be treated the same way a "poll tax" would be on voting. Or having to buy "libel" insurance before writing a letter to the editor or putting up a blog post.

That's not a matter of politics, it's a matter of law.

You're correct Gary, the "common use" angle is paramount in at least 2 of the lawsuits working their way thru the NY court system. From what I've heard, by one of the lawyers involved, the ammunition reporting requirement instituted under the SAFE law is on it's way out. The mag restrictions won't be far behind.

 

[RobbW]

I bought my first M&P 15 right before the craziness. What would be a fair price for brass ammo, something quality like Federal? And, what do you think it will finally settle out at? I'd like to buy some serious bulk when it hits that price and I'm in no particular hurry. TIA

 

[the ringo kid]

They are still hording in my neck of the woods.

Same here even though 45 40 and a few other popular rounds have been staying n shelves a bit longer. Next GS here is in 8 days so--ill be reporting what I see there as far as prices and evil black rifles and such go.