Hill_Country
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Perhaps we need background checks to post on this forum - there have been a few nutters sneak in even though there are rules against them.
I seriously can't take anymore of the 3rd gen prices
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looking at the last couple of pages........on felons renting guns......
I no longer go to the "public ranges" at state game lands here in Pa.
Too many people around that I'd rather not have around me with guns and ammo!
I've only been to a couple of rental ranges...... IIRC only 1-2 employees...... pretty empty......... not sure about other security....... couple of "bad guys" (say from Boston) rent guns, buy ammo............shoot employees and clean out the range and gun shop..........
Rental range employee....... not a job I'd want!!!!!
OK ...... let's return to our regular programing !!!!!!
I no longer go to the "public ranges" at state game lands here in Pa.
Too many people around that I'd rather not have around me with guns and ammo!
I've only been to a couple of rental ranges...... IIRC only 1-2 employees...... pretty empty......... not sure about other security....... couple of "bad guys" (say from Boston) rent guns, buy ammo............shoot employees and clean out the range and gun shop..........
Rental range employee....... not a job I'd want!!!!!
OK ...... let's return to our regular programing !!!!!!
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Arik
After an earlier post;
Glock 19 empty = 21ozs
3913 empty= 24.8 ...OK 25 ozs
+ 8rds of 9mm in the Glock = wash on carry weight........
After an earlier post;
Glock 19 empty = 21ozs
3913 empty= 24.8 ...OK 25 ozs
+ 8rds of 9mm in the Glock = wash on carry weight........
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perfectcircle1
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Who the heck dug up this old thread anyway....
perfectcircle1 your finger prints are all over it.. LOL......but it was Gater1
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perfectcircle1
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Its funny how threads transform. All i was stating was how beat up third gens that i wouldn't mind having are priced ridiculously
Maybe that's why they call them threads......... just pull on one and see where it goes......................................................
That's not unique to 3rd G auto's.
James&theGiant1911
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well gee, no its not but it is still better than some custom guns that sell for hundreds if not a thousand + less than when they were new.
Ever see a used Nighthawk or Wilson sell?
Can't say, those guns don't interest me one bit.
kbm6893
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Funny you should day that. I used to go the State Game Land 183 in NE PA. One time I went (a Saturday), the lot was jammed. There were at least 6 cars with NY plates (no big deal, I'm from NY). The range is about 30 minutes over the NY border. Saw three guys wearing "ghetto garb" shooting (or should I saw spraying) an AK at the target. Another guy next to me was trying to figure out how to load his M1 Garand with the barrel pointed at my head.
So I leave and come back on a weekday. Guy in his early 60's wearing Vietnam era fatigues. He has no hearing protection on so I tell him I'm about to shoot. he tells me he "didn't need em in the 'Nam, I don't need them npw". OK, I start shooting. The dude pulls out an M1 carbine and starts shooting. He's yelling Asian racial epithets as he fires "two the the chest, one to the head, take that you Dink!". I leave.
Now, I shoot at a private range on weekdays only. Too many idiot gun owners out there.
As for ranges renting to felons, it's a horrible idea.
And I'd sell 2 Glocks to buy one 3rd Gen.
I think I can concur With a previous post that When you compare the cost of these almost any price there a bargain with new manufacture plastic guns
I was very fortunate within the last 6 weeks I pick up two 5906s one was Friday at a bargain cost
the really nice thing about these going up is it proves that I was not a fool to start collecting them in the first place. I started collecting them in 2011 and have built up a nice collection you just have to watch and be ready to act immediately
the only one that I am short at that this time is a 1006 and we all know those bring a premium
Hank
I was very fortunate within the last 6 weeks I pick up two 5906s one was Friday at a bargain cost
the really nice thing about these going up is it proves that I was not a fool to start collecting them in the first place. I started collecting them in 2011 and have built up a nice collection you just have to watch and be ready to act immediately
the only one that I am short at that this time is a 1006 and we all know those bring a premium
Hank
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Arik
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I use state game land out in Jim Thorpe Pa. Like it a lot. Hardly ever run into anyone besides locals sighting in their new deer rifles
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Did anyone here see that auction on GB for a really nice looking 4513TSW early non rail that ended a little while ago? It went for $725. Box, papers & two magazines. I saw it when it was first listed & I knew it was going to go high.
My Bad! I refer to this post a lot and was just looking to keep current.
cpeblue
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Actually $750.00 lest you forget $25.00 shipping, then you have what the FFL will charge for the transfer. So it looks like the .45 3rd gens are beginning to catchup to the 10mms. In all honesty I ran the pistol to 675, which I didn't want to pay and expected to be out bid but when it hit 725 the evil in me wanted to juice it a bit to see how high it would go but afraid I would get stuck holding that bag. The pistol is nice but not perfect , when I received the outbid notification I was kind of relieved.
finesse_r
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Yes I saw that one. It started out priced at 1 penny and the bidders determined the final value.
I also saw another one sold about a month ago for $560 with 5 mags on GB. It was in pretty nice condition with no box or papers. Auctions are weird. If the right two bidder show up the gun can bring a real premium. If not, there are some good deals to be had.
I bought a pristine in the box with papers and 4 mags on this site about a this past December for $650 shipped.
The 4513TSW without a rail is a fairly rare gun and there will be no more of them made.
Check the price on a Colt Python or Diamondback, or Gold Cup. They are selling for 4 or 5 or 6 times their original cost.
Check the price of a S&W Model 610 revolver. These revolvers are going for 1200 to 1800 depending on condition and barrel length, and for a 3 inch like new in the box even more.
If the going rate for a like new in the box Model 4513TSW is 650 to 750. I don't see how that is over priced given the quality that went into a Model 4513TSW. The TSW variants are a pretty serious upgrade over the standard third generation in precision hand fitting and tolerances and that translates into accuracy. These are somewhere between a standard production pistol and a PC pistol.
Even if these 4513TSWs were a $1,000 for a like new in the box, theywould be a better buy than one of the new plastic fantastics.
My suggestion to those unwilling to pay the price for them is to buy another product that they consider more properly priced.
James&theGiant1911
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I have a gold cup and while they are selling for 20-30 percent more than I paid for it, they are no where near the 3-4 times value you posted.
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perfectcircle1
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I saw it too, fortunately for me my gun budget is depleted right now cause i would have bid on it
VTHokiesDuckHunter
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There is a lot of misinformation on here, but fortunately a lot if guys do get it.
3rd gens, LNIB or NIB are basically selling for roughly what they did when new 10 years ago, or a little more. They sell for about the same or less than a comparable metal SIG or Beretta, and about the same or less than a new FN (my favorite polymer guns), HK or Springfield. Less than the cost of a stainless Ruger or Remington 1911.
What's the beef?
Not talking about well used ones or police trade-ins, as I don't buy those. You may think they're overpriced, I can't say. But the LNIB and NIB models are generally a bargain.
If I find a Scandium 4040 again LNIB for under $1000, as I have several times in the last year, I plan to buy it.
3rd gens, LNIB or NIB are basically selling for roughly what they did when new 10 years ago, or a little more. They sell for about the same or less than a comparable metal SIG or Beretta, and about the same or less than a new FN (my favorite polymer guns), HK or Springfield. Less than the cost of a stainless Ruger or Remington 1911.
What's the beef?
Not talking about well used ones or police trade-ins, as I don't buy those. You may think they're overpriced, I can't say. But the LNIB and NIB models are generally a bargain.
If I find a Scandium 4040 again LNIB for under $1000, as I have several times in the last year, I plan to buy it.
