OPERATED A DILLON 650 TODAY

[Prof_Fate]

I read the manual. Did YOU read my posts?
the manual does not cover the issues i'm having.
sorry to inform you that dillon is not perfect. IMO it's not lived up to the hype I've been hearing for years.

 

[Moonman]

Prof,

Take your 650 back to the good guy you bought it from.

Let him give a diagnosis to the potential problem and possible fix.

Being mechanically inclined is a definite asset with a progressive press.

Did you ever look at the Brian Enos Forum and leave a Question about your problems, he sells a ton of them?

 

[Prof_Fate]

Prof,

Being mechanically inclined is a definite asset with a progressive press.

36 years as a car/motorcycle hobbyist and 15+ years as a mechanic as a living, plus more in related positions (service writer, manager).

I was told that it was important to have such skills with a Lee and if you don't want to be fiddling with such things get a dillon.
And I did...and I am fiddling.

I was misled IMO by the blue krew.
And I dare say the truth about my experience and while you were helpful with enos suggestion, most are not being so. "take it back" or "your just incompetent".


Complain here about a gun that won't work or shoot straight and everyone gets up in arms at the company for making such ****. 'send it back' is the battle cry. the company takes the heat, not the end user.


As if dillon couldn't possibly make a bad unit. ever. not once.

 

[blujax01]

Shhhh...!!!

MAN, SHUT UP!!!

You know what's gonna happen if Dad has to come in here again.

We'll all get it!!!

 

[Moonman]

blujax01 is right, BE NICE.

The OLD BOY is getting a short fuse about ILL MANNERED FOLKS.

 

[wheelgun28]

Being that I just arrived at this thread I gotta say it has all the classic signs of being a TROLL

 

[Prof_Fate]

Being that I just arrived at this thread I gotta say it has all the classic signs of being a TROLL

My dillon has issues. I spoke up.
What, you call me a troll for that?
Just because I don't see it like you do you think I should be silenced?
I prefer free speech. YMMV

 

[handejector]

If you haven't read this, READ IT NOW-
Fair Warning!


Thread Summary:
>Dillon has been around for decades and are praised by a few bazillion people who think they make a good product.

>Some people like some other progressive presses, and some people like to load with Lee Loaders like the buffalo hunters did around the campfire.

>Prof Fate bought a Dillon that won't work and cannot be fixed and never should have been allowed to exist, PROVING that the other few bazillion of you are delusional, but he doesn't want a refund.

>Some members are always willing to enter a thread with comments that do nothing to improve the situation at hand.

Did I miss anything?

Oh yeah- did I mention you should read this?
Fair Warning!

Y'all let me know if you need me again.

 

[handejector]

Open again.
Play nice.
If you have something positive to add, have at it.
There is a certain tone level expected on this board.
The rules always apply.

 

[Prof_Fate]

Mods pick on posters here?
REALLY?
YOU are flaming and trolling and I get an infraction?

Sorry but that is wrong on many levels.

I need to know how to get on this dillon payroll thing too I guess.

If you haven't read this, READ IT NOW-
Fair Warning!


Thread Summary:
>Dillon has been around for decades and are praised by a few bazillion people who think they make a good product.

>Some people like some other progressive presses, and some people like to load with Lee Loaders like the buffalo hunters did around the campfire.

>Prof Fate bought a Dillon that won't work and cannot be fixed and never should have been allowed to exist, PROVING that the other few bazillion of you are delusional, but he doesn't want a refund.

>Some members are always willing to enter a thread with comments that do nothing to improve the situation at hand.

Did I miss anything?

Oh yeah- did I mention you should read this?
Fair Warning!

Y'all let me know if you need me again.

 

[Prof_Fate]

Thank you., I'll check the pin.

Still waiting on the new part to arrive.

I'll do both at the same time.

One thing I discovered when I first started using my 650 may be useful in your situation. I was having a similar experience where the new case wasn't being fed all the way into the shell plate and of course it would hit off to the side of the sizing die. I wasn't going fast enough to crush the case but I could see where that could happen. What was happening was the old primers were sticking to the depriming pin and being drawn back into the case (contrary to the spring loaded pin concept) when it went to the priming stage, I couldn't put a new primer into the already occupied pocket so the handle wouldn't push far enough toward the rear of the machine to load the empty case all the way into the shell holder. Dillon suggested cleaning the pin which worked for 50 or so cases and then it would happen again. I got into a cleaning regimen until I decided that I didn't like that. I took the deprime pin out and polished it, then lubed it with some Hornady One Shot case lube and I haven't had the problem since, and that's been a number of thousand rounds ago (I load around 1200 per week). I do listen for the old primer to drop into the bucket and every once in a while I don't hear the "click" and I slightly move the handle back and forth at the top of the stroke and then I hear it drop, it's become a part of my reloading stroke. If you "short stroke", or only go partway on the handle cycle then it will cause mis loaded rounds so you need to get into the habit of making a full cycle. I've had zero problems after the first week or so until I got used to the machine. Hope this is helpful.

 

[handejector]

Mods pick on posters here?
REALLY?
YOU are flaming and trolling and I get an infraction?

Sorry but that is wrong on many levels.

I need to know how to get on this dillon payroll thing too I guess.

When I was young and ranting about something, my dad would say:
"You're hard-headed, son. Sometimes, you talk too much. Shut up and listen more, and you might learn how to solve your problem."

Take that for whatever it might be worth, which I suspect is very little to you.
As far as the Dillon payroll, I've never owned one, never bought one, and never spoken to them, but I have used one years ago.
If I ever buy another press, it'll probably be a Dillon.

Good Luck to ya. I suspect you're a person who needs some luck.

 

[Gunsnwater]

I bought a 450 years ago and kept upgrading until they came out with the case feeder for the 550 --at that point I sold my 450 and bought a 650--I'm just sorry I didn't go for the 650 earlier. If you really want to maximize output put a Hornady BULLET feeder on your 650. The feeder is for jacketed bullets so I 'modified' the feeder dies and use PVC tubing with my cast bullets--all I do is pull the handle.

Could you make a thread sometime on all you had to do to make the bullet feeder mods? Pictures too. I want to do this also. It would be the ultimate press. Most of my reloading is cast.

 

[chief38]

UPDATE:

Another one of my friends just got the Dillon 1050 and I went there to give it a whirl. It has a more involved mechanism and is more than twice the price of the 650. The caliber conversions are very expensive (twice the 650) but on the other hand the machine is marvelously smooth, accurate and primes in a separate station on the down stroke. If it were not for the sheer cost, I would buy that one instead of the 650, but I just can't justify over 3 Grand with all the calibers I need.

So after reviewing all the info I think the best bang for the buck will be to upgrade my SD for a 650. It will do exactly what I need accurately, quickly and for an affordable price.

For anyone here loading over a few thousand rounds at a time..... I would definitely recommend considering the 1050.

 

[rwsmith]

Sounds like a chain saw......

... have been using a lee loadmaster and it can do 350/hour for an hour or two then something gets out of adjustment and you spend a frustrating 30-45 minutes to sort it out and get moving again.

Sounds like a chain saw, cuts like crazy for 1/2 hour, then spend the next 1/2 hour tinkering. Still beats doing it by hand, though.

 

[br25004x4]

If you're still following this post, if the de-priming pin doesn't fix your problem, or the locator pin doesn't. Try another call to Dillon and ask them of they will repair your 650 evidently something is broken or not set up properly. A friend that used a 650 was having problems with case feeding on his press, it turned out he hadn't installed the case feed arm bushing and the cases were hanging up. Sometimes it's a really simple fix you just can't spot. Maybe your dealer would help you check your press.

I have 3 Dillon presses 1 550, and 2 650's and have not experienced the problems you're having.

And as others have said Brian Enos forums are a great source of information on operating and adjusting Dillon presses.

Hopefully we'll hear that you have fixed your problems or discovered the cause.

 

[fredj338]

What was happening was the old primers were sticking to the depriming pin and being drawn back into the case (contrary to the spring loaded pin concept) .

I hear this happening but it rarely does for me, any caliber. Just make sure the pin is out far enough, simple. Sometimes a pin can be a little shapr or have a burr, a bit of 600g sandpaper solves that.