.22 decision

[ISCS Yoda]

I have seriously considered buying a modern .22 caliber rifle for quite some time. I looked at the current Remington semi-auto for awhile, and then started to focus on the Ruger 10-22, which I never really warmed up to but now they're making them "tactical" and I'm really starting to like them. Mossberg is making a tactical .22 semi-auto, too, but they're making it look like an AR - if I want to play with an AR I have one of those; I don't need a .22 for that.

But here's the catch - just like I'm a revolver guy first, I'm a bolt gun guy first, too, despite the fact that the M-14/M1A is my favorite gun of all time. And Ruger makes its bolt action "American" in a slick .22 caliber version with a 10-22 type of magazine - oooooo be still my heart. But, BUT!

The American is a longer rifle than the 10-22, but I'm thinking no matter which of these various guns I buy i will get a suppressor for it - that's really the motivation. If i do that I'll get the barrel threaded so if I think it's too long it can be cut down at that point in time.

Here's where y'all come in - I need opinions and votes!!!
Comments solicited.

Thanks.

***GRJ***

 

[VAPA]

I like the Ruger 10-22's, there fun to shoot and there is a huge selection of modification and upgrade parts available.

 

[crsides]

Get a CZ 452 or 455. You will be amazed at the accuracy.

Charlie

 

[blujax01]

Can I vote "other"?

This has all the tacticals:
Mossberg & Sons | 41026

Seriously though, I've been looking at a Winchester M67. Bolt action single shot. With the lack of abundantly available 22LR, I figure a brick of 500 should last 6 months!

 

[Marshwheeling]

Get a CZ 452 or 455. You will be amazed at the accuracy.

Charlie

What he said, FWIW. I do not own any long guns and cannot claim to be particularly knowledgeable, but as they say, everybody should have at least a .22. I am a big fan of CZ pistols, and from what I have seen, the rifles are equally well made. So a 452 or 455 is on my short list.

 

[Qball]

Well you are a revolver guy you say?

Why not make your own .22 rifle?
A Remington 1858 Carbin with a .22 conversion.

Cartridge Konverter, .22 Rimfire, Kirst Gun Parts | 1288230 | Numrich Gun Parts

 

[Cdog]

CZ would get my vote as well. Any less, a 10-22.

 

[Hack]

Current Manufacture

Semi Auto: Ruger 10-22
Lever: Henry
Bolt: Ruger American

 

[walnutred]

You can get the 10/22 already threaded.

 

[tomtheturner]

I was always a "bolt" guy too, until I got my first 10/22. I have three of them set up different ways, and they are just plain fun to shoot.

If you are patient, used ones come up regularly very inexpensively. Or, at least they did for me over the years.

Best Wishes,
Tom

 

[Harrison]

None of the above. Browning/Winchester 1885 Low Wall single shot. It does whatever I need a .22RF to do.

 

[speedyquad]

the mossberg 715 t junk is the same as the mossberg 702. i would avod this gun like the plague...i had one. of three people that i personally know that have/had them, all three went back to mossberg for the same issue and at least 2 of us have sold them. mine was purchased 4 months after the first persons, and i had to wait 2 weeks for it to be delivered to the lgs, his was purchased online from cabela's. the third was purchased from a different lgs 8 months after mine.

i bought mine new. it failed to feed immediately(yes i cleaned and lubed it before the first outing). by 100 rounds, it was a single shot. called mossberg. they wanted me to pay for shipping or have the ffl deal with it. and they seemed to know what was wrong. i finally got them to send me a label. it came 3 weeks later. they returned it to with a new "trigger control housing". i also had them change it to a flat top model because the carry handle would become visible in the peep when trying to sight in. i still had adjustment at the rear and the front is not adjustable(on the carry handle model, the front post is molded plastic) i was told they would not do this, even at my expense. a pretty stern letter asking it be done must have changed their mind as they changed it over for free.

i took it to the range and it would not eject...if it cycle 4 rounds in a row, i was happy. I had to pay shipping this time as the label was a one time only deal. when it came back, it seemed to work ok, but i was done with it. i've now had it for 4 months or so and a month of that was spent in shipping to/from repairs at mossberg.

as i said earlier, the 715t is just a 702 in literally a plastic clamshell it is only bolted to the barrel and action in two spots. just ahead and behind the trigger guard. the shell is 4 pieces, the rear 2 pieces are the only one secured to the gun in any way. when the gun is cleaned, all 10 or 12 screws that hold the shell on need to come out. they would be very easy to over tighten and strip when reassembling. the sights mount to this shell. in the carry handle model, the rear sight needs to be removed but the front sight is molded into the front left side shell. on the flat top model, the front sight needs removed also. the front of the shell is flexible even after tightening and this caused accuracy issues. i could hit the paper, but not hold real tight groups.

 

[Wee Hooker]

I like the Ruger 10-22's, there fun to shoot and there is a huge selection of modification and upgrade parts available.

Agreed, but you should know you need to have the discipline not to start pouring $600 into a $200 rifle. That also is fun but ultimately a loosing proposition. Been there, done that... several times.

 

[Comrad]

Wow, people sure do like the Ruger. For the record my .22 is a Remington 521T and it's a keeper but if I ever buy another it's probably going to be a 10/22.

 

[Cpo1944]

Browning t bolt .i had one and foolishly let it get away. Very stupid now I must replace it!!!

 

[LedFowl]

Can I vote "other"?

Seriously though, I've been looking at a Winchester M67. Bolt action single shot. With the lack of abundantly available 22LR, I figure a brick of 500 should last 6 months!

Funny that you mention the Model 67. We took one to the range last night. A friend's dad left it to her - I think it was built in the 1960's. It IS fun to shoot with that bolt action. Slow going though, as you say.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'm a bolt gun guy first

The American is a longer rifle than the 10-22, but I'm thinking no matter which of these various guns I buy i will get a suppressor for it - that's really the motivation. If i do that I'll get the barrel threaded so if I think it's too long it can be cut down at that point in time.

Savage makes an FVSR with a threaded 16'' barrel. It's very popular for suppressed shooting.

 

[HorizontalMike]

My vote is Remington, though NOT a new model. I have had a 1947 Remington 121 pump action starting as I was growing up, and have to say that this is the most fun rifle to shoot, IMO.

I have also noticed that several of these Rem 121s are currently listed on the ArmsList website. You might want to check these out. Just a suggestion.

ARMSLIST - United States All Categories Classifieds

 

[Grayfox]

Since you say that you want to suppress it, the Ruger 10/22-FS Tactical Model is the way to go. Not only is it a fine little rifle, but its already threaded for the suppressor. Simply screw off the flash suppressor and screw your can right on. The 16" barrel also cuts down on the overall length when the can is on it. But be aware that it does not have iron sights and you will need some sort of optic.

That's what I decided to go with and by replacing a few trigger group parts its a very quiet tack driver.

 

[Faulkner]

I voted 10-22 based on the options, but there are a lot of good .22 LR rifles to choose from these days.

I love my 40 year old 10-22 'Possum Slayer and have it "accessorized" just to my liking. There is no telling how much meat this one has put in the frying pan, plus the varmits I've dispatched. Plenty accurate, very reliable, and easy to upgrade as desired with seemingly unlimited aftermarket stuff.

I also highly recommend the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22. Even if you are not big into the AR platform, this rifle is plenty accuate, very reliable, and just plain fun to shoot. It's also easy to accessorize with standard AR stuff that is available.