tork'd
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I'm speechless!!"
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will thou forgivith me as i am without words
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will thou forgivith me as i am without words
I have no Problem saying "You're Welcome"
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Comrad
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What's worse for me is "not a problem" guys. My wife and I are two old farts, do we really look like "guys" I know I do but the last time I checked the bride still had her lady parts.
I realize that the demographic here is skewed towards older white men, but really? "No Problem" isn't "hey eff you old guy", it's a polite well intentioned response. This is why I cringe. There's a very real, recent history of "manners" being a thing that would catch you an asswhupping if you didn't defer to "superior" racial groups, dress a certain way, and only reply yes sir or maam. While you're lamenting the lack of manners, and wishing you could go back to the old days of white picket fences and high cinched up trousers, remember that what was familiar to you was a nightmare to others.
These backwards hat and drooping pants wearing kids aren't without manners, they're responding in a polite way that's different, but not even contradictory to the way you were brought up. English is an evolving language, especially American English, and that's in large parts thanks to the melting pot and diversity that people seem so willing to shun.
BrianE
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This comment is ignorant, actually.
Someone says, "no problem" and this means they're stupid?
If someone called me stupid, they would not like my response (...and that response would not be, "you're welcome").
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Comrad
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I know and have contact with lots of other people that aren't old white men and there are a great number who are well aware of and use correctly good grammar and polite responses. There are an equal number who are ignorant. Once we tolerate ignorance we no longer have any standards. English grammar is not an evolving discipline. It's either correct or it's not.
Maybe we can evolve safe firearms handling too as long as we are relaxing standards.
Maybe we can evolve safe firearms handling too as long as we are relaxing standards.
Unfortunately, the last few hundred years of English do show quite a bit of evolution.
And safe firearm handling is a great example! How many of us have pictures of relatives on hunting trips in the 40s and 50s, all with fingers in the trigger guard? How about all those surplus police holsters that we snag at gun shops with purposefully exposed trigger guards? It could just be that we're in the internet echo-chamber, but what was considered safe with firearms has changed within most of your lifetimes (though I suppose so did the answer of many to the question of whether or not firearms are "safe" at all).
Pilgrim
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Sorry if I offended anyone, but I still feel it's what I said, and it's probably like some others said too, I meant no insult to anyone here.
When a cashier says 'no problem' and then says 'have a good one' (and they almost always go together), it's only because they feel they must say something....even if they don't mean it. It's the shortest thing that they can say without completely ignoring you. There's hardly ever eye contact, they'll actually be looking elsewhere most of the time, no smile, or even an indication that you're still standing there. It's a sign that they do not want to be there and are only putting up with you, the customer.
You could have a machine handling whatever the clerk is doing with a recording speaking to you and experience a more friendly checkout.
That action from a cashier or clerk, or whatever is either due to:
1)laziness - just don't care
2) ignorance - never taught the proper way to interact with people by parents or how do the job properly
3) stupidity - can't grasp the concept.
I was basing my answer on the above scenario. I agree there are other reasons and scenarios where the phrase might be less annoying.(But still not the best response)
Sorry to upset a few of you.
When a cashier says 'no problem' and then says 'have a good one' (and they almost always go together), it's only because they feel they must say something....even if they don't mean it. It's the shortest thing that they can say without completely ignoring you. There's hardly ever eye contact, they'll actually be looking elsewhere most of the time, no smile, or even an indication that you're still standing there. It's a sign that they do not want to be there and are only putting up with you, the customer.
You could have a machine handling whatever the clerk is doing with a recording speaking to you and experience a more friendly checkout.
That action from a cashier or clerk, or whatever is either due to:
1)laziness - just don't care
2) ignorance - never taught the proper way to interact with people by parents or how do the job properly
3) stupidity - can't grasp the concept.
I was basing my answer on the above scenario. I agree there are other reasons and scenarios where the phrase might be less annoying.(But still not the best response)
Sorry to upset a few of you.
Nothing against waiters and waitresses--my wife was a waitress way back when and she, like most, worked hard at it. But while we're discussing civility in general, when did it become the norm for a waiter or waitress to collect a check paid with cash and ask, "Need change?"
NCTexan
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Polite responses depend on the situation and the brain power of the responding individual to sufficiently understand the situation and their own words.
When someone says "thank you" in a normal service situation (a server nicely sits your entry in front of you)... the response should be "you're welcome" or "my pleasure". I would hope that doing their job would not be a problem or more than expected.
However... If you had a special request for some service or thing out of the ordinary and say "thank you"... the response of "no problem" or "that was no problem" seems reasonable to me.
Generally when I hear a thoughtless "no problem" thrown back at me... I think "SLACKER" or "SLACKER WANNA BE".
BTW, Chick-Fil-A and most nice restaurants have taught their employees how to respond professionally.
When someone says "thank you" in a normal service situation (a server nicely sits your entry in front of you)... the response should be "you're welcome" or "my pleasure". I would hope that doing their job would not be a problem or more than expected.
However... If you had a special request for some service or thing out of the ordinary and say "thank you"... the response of "no problem" or "that was no problem" seems reasonable to me.
Generally when I hear a thoughtless "no problem" thrown back at me... I think "SLACKER" or "SLACKER WANNA BE".
BTW, Chick-Fil-A and most nice restaurants have taught their employees how to respond professionally.
I've done it, and I nearly always am aware, after I say it. I usually say it when I've done something that is my job or something really trivial and somebody says "Thanks". Maybe worse, I'll say "sure thing". But if I've really done something, like a favor for someone, it's always, "You're welcome". And there's the ever popular,"Don't worry, I'll need a favor some day."
Sorry if I offended anyone, but I still feel it's what I said, and it's probably like some others said too, I meant no insult to anyone here.
When a cashier says 'no problem' and then says 'have a good one' (and they almost always go together), it's only because they feel they must say something....even if they don't mean it. It's the shortest thing that they can say without completely ignoring you. There's hardly ever eye contact, they'll actually be looking elsewhere most of the time, no smile, or even an indication that you're still standing there. It's a sign that they do not want to be there and are only putting up with you, the customer.
You could have a machine handling whatever the clerk is doing with a recording speaking to you and experience a more friendly checkout.
That action from a cashier or clerk, or whatever is either due to:
1)laziness - just don't care
2) ignorance - never taught the proper way to interact with people by parents or how do the job properly
3) stupidity - can't grasp the concept.
I was basing my answer on the above scenario. I agree there are other reasons and scenarios where the phrase might be less annoying.(But still not the best response)
Sorry to upset a few of you.
So is your problem with this type of person, or the words? Is it a person's employment, or that they used a different polite response that makes them lazy, stupid, or ignorant? Is there another factor you dislike that you're leaving out? What correlating evidence do you have between "no problem" and laziness, stupidity, or ignorance? Is there any? Or are you just drawing baseless conclusions on countless others with nothing but yourself as arbiter of acceptable responses to back it up?
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NCTexan
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What correlating evidence do you have?
That "no problem" is polite, but different than what he is used to? Correlation is the wrong word to choose, in that it means there's a relationship between the two things. My argument is the opposite: there is no relationship between the ignorance, stupidity, or laziness of a person and their preferred response to "thank you", or a relationship between the orientation of one's baseball hat, pants level, and their intelligence.
That's the trick about making baseless accusations: you have to be able to prove them. The person who calls you out merely has to do that
Frizzman
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Well, I am going to be sixty this year. One thing I have learned in my years on Earth is that when I become angry or upset, MY blood pressure goes up and not their's. So, making myself unhappy because I got a " no problem" instead of a "You're welcome" seems not worth the worry...Life deals much worse to me on an alarmingly regular basis. I am just greatful to get any sort of polite response. Also, "de nada" works for me too... I find that "no problem" is no problem.
NCTexan
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That "no problem" is polite, but different than what he is used to? Correlation is the wrong word to choose, in that it means there's a relationship between the two things. My argument is the opposite: there is no relationship between the ignorance, stupidity, or laziness of a person and their preferred response to "thank you", or a relationship between the orientation of one's baseball hat, pants level, and their intelligence.
That's the trick about making baseless accusations: you have to be able to prove them. The person who calls you out merely has to do that
No Problem.
BTW, I work with a team of software developers in China. Often when I thank them for something... the respond with a "NP".
vito
US Veteran
I don't get upset over this; its not worth the effort. But I do see it as another sign of the deteriorating culture and lack of adherence to social norms. Manners and culture is what keeps us civilized and is the glue that holds our society together. The language of politeness is a part of both manners and culture, and replacing "you're welcome" with "de nada" or "no problem" is a sign of cultural deterioration.
Here in Wyoming it is "You betcha".
No problem eh?
Mcwsky09
Member
Are you questioning the phrase or the way it is asked? Or the need to ask? If I am paying cash I don't want them assuming that whatever amount I have put in there is to cover the bill and their tip with no expectation of change back. By asking it gives you the opportunity to let them know they do not need to hurry back with change so you can leave without waiting for them to return.
