Problem solved (but not cheap)...
Well, after all the nonsense, expense and frustration running around trying to find an S&W M&P .45 with at least a semi-acceptable trigger right out of the box, I finally gave up. It was not going to happen. It was a case of include the $100 Apex Kit upgrade in the deal or figure out something else, possibly another brand/model or even a used gun.
I have had my eye on a slightly used two-tone SW99 .45 for a while now but it is on consignment and the asking price is way out of line.
Owner must think it is made of gold! 
I also found a very nice used Sig P220 two-tone, also a little high in price but probably worth every cent they are asking for it.
I suppose a Ruger SR45 was always a possibility, but I was not that impressed with them when I had taken a hard look at them almost a year ago. I had to do better than that. 
In the end, it was the $200.00 H&K rebate together with a substantial dealer discount that made me go for an HK45. I ended up with the HK45 for less than $100 (after rebate) over the cheapest M&P .45 plus installed Apex Kit price that I could find.
Yes, I paid more than I wished to pay, but not that much more over the M&P .45 + Apex Kit. And there was simply no way I could live, even for a short time, with the stock MA-compliant M&P .45 trigger. It was nothing short of unusable in my book. 
I'll also admit that it didn't help that I'd had a bad experience with S&W CS just this past week. Kind of insulting what CS did and said to me. I didn't appreciate the words or the little joke they played on me. Was I going to buy another S&W product right after that treatment? 
Let's just say that it sure didn't help S&W at all and yes, it probably did help push me into a different brand.
The end.
Well, after all the nonsense, expense and frustration running around trying to find an S&W M&P .45 with at least a semi-acceptable trigger right out of the box, I finally gave up. It was not going to happen. It was a case of include the $100 Apex Kit upgrade in the deal or figure out something else, possibly another brand/model or even a used gun.
I have had my eye on a slightly used two-tone SW99 .45 for a while now but it is on consignment and the asking price is way out of line.
Owner must think it is made of gold! I also found a very nice used Sig P220 two-tone, also a little high in price but probably worth every cent they are asking for it.
I suppose a Ruger SR45 was always a possibility, but I was not that impressed with them when I had taken a hard look at them almost a year ago.
I had to do better than that. In the end, it was the $200.00 H&K rebate together with a substantial dealer discount that made me go for an HK45. I ended up with the HK45 for less than $100 (after rebate) over the cheapest M&P .45 plus installed Apex Kit price that I could find.
Yes, I paid more than I wished to pay, but not that much more over the M&P .45 + Apex Kit. And there was simply no way I could live, even for a short time, with the stock MA-compliant M&P .45 trigger.
It was nothing short of unusable in my book. I'll also admit that it didn't help that I'd had a bad experience with S&W CS just this past week.
Kind of insulting what CS did and said to me. I didn't appreciate the words or the little joke they played on me. Was I going to buy another S&W product right after that treatment? Let's just say that it sure didn't help S&W at all and yes, it probably did help push me into a different brand. The end.
I'll have to get out the trigger weight scale to give you an exact reading, but so far so good. Remember that the HK45 is a DA/SA pistol, not a striker-fired pistol like the M&P .45. The DA will be 10.5+ pounds but the SA will be a whole lot less. Different animal altogether. And to confuse things even more, there is a LEM kit available for the HK45, but I don't think I'll be going that route anytime soon. 
