Bare Necessities for .38 Special

Lee Turret Press is probably best for new people. Easy to use and can turn out ammo fairly quickly. You can use it for a single stage press at first if you wish.

Study your manual for a while first. The Lee one is good. Then get your equipment.
 
The least expensive way to get into Re-loading will turn out to be the most expensive in the long run. By going low end and buying cheap stuff, it will be a long tedious process, no fun, boring and in the long run when you decide you've had enough you will spend the money on quality equipment anyway. Remember, when you "BUY PRICE - YOU BUY TWICE". Just my opinion of course.........
 
Why buy a single stage

Why buy a single stage press when he can buy a Lee Classic Turret for under a hundred dollars new that he won't out grow in a few months? Add the dies, a manual, digital scale and calipers and you are ready to go for under $200. Of course, then there is the powder, primers and cases and if you really want to save money the bullet mold and lead. I bought the LCT a month ago to replace the Dillon 550 that belongs to my son. I love it. For me it is better than the Dillon. This guy has four guns. He isn't going to be satisfied with putting out bullets at a snails pace for long. Of course, every loading bench should also have a single stage for sizing and pulling bullets. If you apply for an Amazon credit card you get a $50 credit on your first purchase and if you sign up for a free trial of Amazon Prime you get free two day shipping for a month before you cancel. Also, this month Cabela's is offering free shipping on everything. It's the shipping on the small items that kills you. We don't have much in the way of reloading supplies in the rural area where I live. Anyway, I have been spreading my purchases out over a couple of months and it has been relatively painless.
 
The OP said 300 rounds a week. In all the years I used a Lee Loader, I never got up to 300 a week. The Lee Loader was just too slow. I felt like I was getting worn out doing 100 a week. I could get 300 with the Lee Hand Press, but it took more time than I was willing to spend, week after week... With the turret press, I can do 300 in one long evening, or two shorter evenings.
 
Here is my writeup on introductory reloading. It addresses the equipment minimums required and focuses on straight walled cases


Reloading For Beginners | The Desert's Edge

I can do 75 rounds an hour comfortably on a single stage. Comfortably to me means as fast as I want to go to avoid mistakes.

Easier is to size and prime on day 1. Then powder and seat the next.
 
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not too worried about him outgrowing any proper press.
You just don't outgrow any bench mounted single stage, be single station or turret type.

the lee loader might work well as a range bag addition, but its a one trick pony and is painfully slow.
Their hand press becomes annoying after about 50 rounds.
Not to say this one is a bad press, I use one while watching the news for sizing operations, and sometimes at the range for load development on location.

Neither of these get my recommendation as a primary tool.
That should be a proper O frame or turret.

Lets move onto dies.
Many swear by Lee Dies, others swear at Lee dies.
Ill tell you I kinda do both.
Lee seems to keep some of the oddballs and antiquated sets in production. Thank God for that if ever you find yourself with a 400 corbon barrel in a 1911, or try to breathe life back into a 32 special.
Lee makes them, and they DO work.
Given the choice, I'd rather put out a few extra bills and have an RCBS die set follow me home.

Manuals .... its good to have a few.
Lyman and Speer seem to be the canonical reference manuals in this forum.
The manuals are arguably of greater importance than the tools.
I started there first.
I had 3 manuals before I even had the first reloading tool.
Tools don't mean squat if you don't know how to use em.


I see someone recommended a Lee pro 1000 ......
No, don't even .....
the Lee progressive presses are fidget factories that will eat a few days setting up and tweeking.
its only a deal for the highly mechanically inclined and seasoned hand loader.
This recommendation is akin to recommending a 416 Remington magnum and 32X "glued to the eyeball" scope for deer hunting.
 
Buddy up with someone into reloading and you will save a lot of time. I have upgraded but still use my RCBS stuff from 30+ years ago. A reload person can give you lots of dos and donts and runs into deals because he is in the circle and can pass the deals on to you. Try to stay with the same brand of equipment as most broken parts have a lifetime warranty. I find RCBS and LEE very easy to deal with. You can take a photo and email your problem on lots of issues. Dillon is tops to deal with. Garage sales is a good way to get reloading things.
 
Manuals.....

Most manuals have two parts. A 'How To' section and a data section. The 'How To' sections are of extreme importance. If fact, having more than one manual, one may explain a point better than the other. A lot of questions arise in reloading and you first go to the manual and if it doesn't explain it adequately, try another.

This ain't not no kind of rocket science, but you have to be diligent, detailed and careful, especially in such critical stages as powder charging. I can watch TV and do my priming as long as I check each case for depth and turned primers.
 
By now you should be thoroughly confused. If you have a bench, old desk or heavy table to mount it, go with a bench mounted press of one kind or the other. I started out reloading with the Lee Loader, loading .38 SPL cartridges. I loaded satisfactory rounds with it, but outgrew it very quickly. It is just too slow and full length sizing of straight-walled pistol brass trumps neck sizing (Lee Loader). When I moved up to a bench mounted press, it was like going from cooking on a wood stove to a gas range...maybe better. My first single-stage press was a Lyman Spartan and it served me well, until I got serious about competitive pistol shooting. Going from that to a progressive was even better. I still load small amounts of rifle and pistol ammo on a single-stage press. I have used balance beam scales and digital scales. The digital scales have been what I consider high end, and I haven't had any problems. Suit yourself. If you are considering buying used reloading equipment, my advice is to only do it if you have a buddy, who is experienced in reloading, look over the used equipment. There is some outdated reloading equipment out there where accessories and/or parts can be almost, if not in fact, impossible to obtain. Broken or sprung parts can be hard to figure out. Those Lee kits are ok, but right now, everyone seems to be sold out of them.
 

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Jay,
This question always generates lots of different answers. And all of them are correct. FOR THE PERSON WRITING THE ANSWER.

Find a local reloader. Even the guy pumping out hundreds of round each run has a single stage press. Maybe a turrent press. Watch him. Ask questions. Get some hands on instruction. Figure out what YOU like. Then make your purchases.

Maybe someone on the forum is close by. We are generally a good lot. :D
 
How many rounds do you plan to shoot each month? The cost of components averages $16.00 per 100 rounds of ammo produced, provided you have the brass already. If your budget is $50.00 per month, that equates to around 300 rds per month. Do you have the time to shoot 300 rds with your revolvers every month?

I would say purchase the press that meets your shooting budget. Most non competitive shooters don't continue shooting the amount they did when they were younger.
 
You don't have to have a caliper....yet

You can reload .38 wadcutter target loads without a caliper. Seat the bullet anywhere from the crimp groove to flush with the top of the case. Many .38 bullets have some form of crimping groove and if not just make sure its not seated on the ogive (curved) part of the bullet. .38 is so forgiving you can use a ruler to check length. If it won't fit in your chamber, it's too long. If it looks about right, it's probably ok. :D

NOW, when you get to semi auto cartridges you definitely need a caliper because they are very sensitive to bullet depth.

The reason for all this is that the .38 was originally designed to hold black powder and there is such a big volume for powder bullet depth doesn't make a lot of difference.

PS: I hope the OP is getting all this. Lots of good info here.
 
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Another vote for the Lee Hand Press and a set of dies with a dipper.

I highly recommend the hand press over the Lee Loader for one reason.

No one here has yet told you that you need one more tool in order to use it.

A HAMMER. 'Nuff sed.

In case of an EMP bomb, a zombie apocalypse, a SHTF scenario, or we get thrown to the wolves, the hand press is very, very portable. And .38 cases can be safely used dozens of time over.

Breech Lock Hand Press Kit $50.
Lee three piece Die set in .38 spl - $30.
Lee Precision Modern Loading Book - $20.

Forget the scales, forget the calipers, just stick with the recommended powder selection and use the dipper properly and you can SAFELY use this setup. In my admittedly non-expert opinion, this is the most inexpensive SAFE alternative to getting into a bench press.

This will allow you to find out whether reloading is for you or not.

And for the purposes of "how cheaply can I do this", you don't need to tumble .38 cases. They shoot just fine dirty. Or, there are rumors of folks cleaning them in the dishwasher, i a lingerie bag, when the boss is out of the house.
 
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How many rounds do you plan to shoot each month? The cost of components averages $16.00 per 100 rounds of ammo produced, provided you have the brass already. ...

This can vary greatly and depends on where you live, if you are sales-savvy and whether you care to buy in bulk. I can state that even at today's prices, my .38's cost no more than $12/100.:cool:
 
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I wish I could buy in bulk...

This can vary greatly and depends on where you live, if you are sales-savvy and whether you care to buy in bulk. I can state that even at today's prices, my .38's cost no more than $12/100.:cool:

I can only afford to buy batches of components. It takes longer but I'm still stocked up. Ok, so my ammo cost $15/100. Not only that, it's only a matter of a few pennies/round to switch from a .38 target load to a fireball .357 round and anything in between. Whatever I want, I make.
 
Perfect, buddy up

Perfect response. You might not like reloading. If you don't going with the Lee would not be that much invested. I just started a buddy's son going with the Lee kit. I would like to throw in a case gauge. Quick and simple to test the round. Balance beam scale with test weights. My RCBS still works, bought it in 1974, my wife bought the Dillon for me about 17 years ago, you can not beat their service. Above all, no phone, TV, beer, smokes or distractions while loading. Load as if your life depends on it, it does.

Buddy up with someone into reloading and you will save a lot of time. I have upgraded but still use my RCBS stuff from 30+ years ago. A reload person can give you lots of dos and donts and runs into deals because he is in the circle and can pass the deals on to you. Try to stay with the same brand of equipment as most broken parts have a lifetime warranty. I find RCBS and LEE very easy to deal with. You can take a photo and email your problem on lots of issues. Dillon is tops to deal with. Garage sales is a good way to get reloading things.
 
Get a Lee challenger kit and a good manual.
Read the manual till you understand the good, the bad and the ugly and blow piles of cash for the rest of your life, just like us pros do.

This...emphasis on the piles of cash when you get hooked.

In all seriousness the manuals are a really important starting point. I have had sharp tools and flammable propellants in my shop all my life..still have all my fingers and my eyes are still in my head. All these things came with manuals and instructions. The manuals are really the only non negotiable item you gotta have to make a start IMOP.

Equipment should come after reading up on the process. You will be able to design a system that fits your needs better if you are informed first.

Don't take the Visa card with you to the LGS. Just sayin'.
 
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