Build Over Buy

[bhayles]

The Anderson parts are:
Lower
Upper
Buffer
Lower parts
Upper
Forward Assist
Chrome Lined barrel- 1/7 twist
bcg

The Strike Industries parts are
flash hider
low profile gas block
gas tube
megafins handguard
rails for the handguard
ultimate dust cover
trigger guard
charging handle

No trigger?...

 

[speedyquad]

in the lower parts kit...lol

the trigger feels good, but i see every one saying a geissele trigger is the best so i may buy one for those for mine and move the anderson trigger to the wife's build...she won't know the difference...lol

 

[bhayles]

Well...I meant a DIFFERENT, upgraded type trigger. I've got a Geissele 2 stage ordered for one of my ARs, though the stock trigger in my Sports feel fairly OK.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

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Wilson Combat trigger-to me a great trigger is a must

I think so. I've got a WC TTU 4lb.
A great trigger does more to improve performance of the shooter than anything else on the rifle, IMO. Curiously, it's often completely overlooked.








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[one eye joe]

I JUST LOVE THOSE EVIL BLACK RIFLES, WHETHER STORE BOUGHT OR HOME BUILT. THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL TO ME……….

 

[Rastoff]

Well...I meant a DIFFERENT, upgraded type trigger.

And there it is. Even though he built a rifle from the ground up, there are still things to be added/modified.

Hey speedyquad,
Before you plunk down serious $$$ on a new trigger, shoot me a PM.

 

[bhayles]

Here's the one I'm getting. Its basically the SSA without the fancy laser engraving of the Geissele name on it:
Geissele 2 Stage (G2S) Trigger

Geissele has it for $165.00, but I've seen it as low as $130.00 on eBay, NIB.

Edit: Just checked eBay...the $130 price is gonem but here it is for $139.49 plus $2.79 S+H:
http://www.slickguns.com/product/geissele-2-stage-trigger-165

 

[JaPes]

Beware the E-bay counterfeits.

 

[MrG5122]

Beware the E-bay counterfeits.

+1 Order straight from Geissele. There are no bargains in quality triggers.

 

[saltair]

On the discussion of triggers my first trigger upgrade was a 3-gun trigger from a reputable manufacturer. I did not shoot 3-gun and I didn't know much about triggers. This trigger would quite often give me what I call a "bump-fire" or "double-tap", pull trigger once and fires twice. I was told by the manufacturer Never to use this trigger for target shooting or hunting. This trigger is for fast fire only. I was allowed to trade the 3-gun for a single stage TTU trigger at about 4-4.5 lbs and have been happy since. I have never owned a 2-stage trigger and I'm sure I would enjoy it just as much and maybe more.

I am sure most on here already know this but I thought it might help some newbies on the AR upgrades.

 

[speedyquad]

thanks for that saltair, that was something i was not aware of. of course, i would research first.

i've learned that you never stop upgrading things. i have quads that had almost as much in aftermarket parts as they new price of the machine itself. knowing that is one reason that i went with build first. i took less flak from the wife having $800 come out of the checkbook over a two or three month period than seeing a $1200 deduction followed by another $400 or so in upgrades.

On the plus side, she understands and will be doing the same thing over the next few months, lol.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

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On the discussion of triggers my first trigger upgrade was a 3-gun trigger from a reputable manufacturer. I did not shoot 3-gun and I didn't know much about triggers. This trigger would quite often give me what I call a "bump-fire" or "double-tap", pull trigger once and fires twice. I was told by the manufacturer Never to use this trigger for target shooting or hunting. This trigger is for fast fire only. I was allowed to trade the 3-gun for a single stage TTU trigger at about 4-4.5 lbs and have been happy since. I have never owned a 2-stage trigger and I'm sure I would enjoy it just as much and maybe more.

I am sure most on here already know this but I thought it might help some newbies on the AR upgrades.

There are a lot of triggers out there. Some feel good at first but soon turn to junk. Here's a review of the Wilson, but to the point is comments on buying what appear to be bargain triggers.

Wilson Combat Tactical Trigger Unit (10,000 trips of the trigger)

When it comes to stuff like triggers and optics, I don't believe there many true bargain Just As Good As. Usually get what you pay for no matter how much the pocket book wants to belive otherwise.

 

[saltair]

Thanks, Chat'Phil for the nice read.
As I posted above I didn't know much about triggers and I went with the Single Stage because I wanted something that would last the life of the rifle and could be depended on in a defensive or combat situation. At the time I felt a 2-stage trigger had more working parts and to ME, more parts mean more chances for failure.

The Wilson Combat TR-TTU is the trigger I have and I am in no way affiliated with Wilson Combat.

 

[MasterTech1960]

Buy or build?

IMO the first rifle should be a factory complete rifle. The firearms enthusiast is ready to hit the range with the warm fuzzies that a factory warranty provides. 2nd rifle? Build it.

This is exactly what I did. Got the M&P 15 , my first AR , learned the ins and outs of the platform. Then bought the M&P 10. Love both guns. How ever , by my nature , I like to know as much as I can about how things work. I found that by building an AR you get to understand and appreciate the weapon system. Built an AR-15 H-bar this past Christmas, so Santa would have some thing to leave under my tree.

It becomes a sickness , you need more. I some how now have a new lower waiting to become my next project.

 

[Revolutionnow33]

Im sitting here on Sunday morning, about 5am getting a kick out of this thread. Very good responses folks. The warranty issue is non existant for me. If a part was to fail on my AR It would likely be my fault and shouldnt be too much to replace. Building an AR with your favorite furniture set, stainless barrel, Lucid optics, thats just like putting diamond tuck in the old Chevy to me. Every guy likes a pretty girl on his arm!

 

[Revolutionnow33]

Optics Option- Lucid HD7 Red Dot... Est. price- $200.....
Check out the reviews. Worth every penny plus some!

 

[Revolutionnow33]

Ammo Watch- ZQI 5.56x45mm (ss109)
This ammo is Sub MOA and is light armor piercing. It is sold at Walmart for under .30 per round. I have shot about 1000 rounds and am very happy. (Grouping within 2 inches at 100 yards with iron sights is good for me). This is 62 grain ammo, Boxer Primed, and I have had 0 feed or extraction issues as of yet. I also have not heard a single bad word about them aside from "Turkey"... Try em out...

 

[JaPes]

This is for when you've progressed into the "Forget stalking Wal-Mart for Ammo" phase. The 1st time I pushed the submit order button on a case, I wondered what the heck did I just do. $300+ on ammo!?! I got over it quick. Internet = No tax (yet), bulk savings, and I'm not stalking ammo at Wal-Mart hoping to find it.

https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100001442&dir=18|830|845

• M193 Spec
• Brass case with crimped primer
• FMJBT with cannelure
• Non corrosive
• Boxer primed

For range practice, plinking, just about any darn activity I do with the exception of OCD anal-retentive longer range accuracy endeavors, this ammo is 100%. I've gone through 3,500 rounds through my AR's and Tavor. I have 1,500 rounds on hand. I shoot up a case & have a case on reserve. I have a nice bucket of certified once fired brass that needs to be processed.

The next phase after this is: "I wonder if I should start reloading?".

 

[JaPes]

You newbies take a real hard look at MrG's part box.

A LaRue or Wilson Combat really isn't all that much more expensive.

That parts box isn't that bad.

 

[saltair]

And as I understand the bullet is not made of steel. My LGS in door range refuses steel ammo.