NO NEW YORK RELOAD FOR NEW MEXICO

[lazy-b]

Following retirement the wife allowed our move to New Mexico
so I could play cowboy for 12 years.
When New Mexico enacted their first CCW licenses, the applicant
had to qualify with each caliber to be carried and was restricted
to one handgun only.
I thought limiting to one gun was peculiar, as though the carrier
would probably use good judgement with only one gun but become crazier then an outhouse rat if allowed to carry two.

Billy

 

[ATF]

Blame Billy the Kid

 

[Erich]

No, IIRC, a lot of the honor should go to former state representative Heaton. And you're incorrect that this limitation was in existence when CCW was first passed - it came later.

 

[jack the toad]

Out of curiosity, did ole Al offer any logical reason(s) for the limitations?
On second thought, scratch logical from the question...

 

[one eye joe]

JUST ANOTHER "FEEL GOOD" PIECE OF LEGISLATION ENACTED IN DEFIANCE OF ANY LOGIC, TO PANDER TO THE 2ND AMENDMENT OPPOSITION, FOR POLITICAL REASONS……..

 

[Sconnie]

Didn't it take a vote in the overall State legislature and then a signature of the Governor? I suppose you can blame the one who introduced the idea but the sheep that supported it with their vote share the blame. And then there are the citizens of NM who keep them in office.

I agree it is dumb but it didn't become law just because one representative wanted it.

 

[wlc]

My NM permit states that you may carry the caliber that you qualified with or smaller. If you want to be permitted for revolver and auto loader, you must qualify with both. There is also a catagory for derringers.

 

[lazy-b]

Originally I had completed all application forms, fingerprints, qualified at range and awaiting issue of CCW when the then
Mayor of Albuquerque filed a law suit that jammed the entire
process, when that was finally resolved I went through the same
process and was issued the license, on the back of the license
it was stated only one handgun permitted to be carried.
Also, at the beginning they planned on listing each caliber and
whether revolver or pistol, later changed to largest caliber
qualified in either revolver or pistol.

Billy

 

[Aticus]

My NM permit states that you may carry the caliber that you qualified with or smaller. If you want to be permitted for revolver and auto loader, you must qualify with both. There is also a catagory for derringers.

Let me see if I understand you. Are you saying that if you want to carry a Derringer you have to qualify with it?

 

[one eye joe]

Didn't it take a vote in the overall State legislature and then a signature of the Governor? I suppose you can blame the one who introduced the idea but the sheep that supported it with their vote share the blame. And then there are the citizens of NM who keep them in office.

I agree it is dumb but it didn't become law just because one representative wanted it.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY ON THE MONEY, SCONNIE. AREN'T THERE LOBBYISTS KEEPING TABS ON PENDING LEGISLATION ? ? ? DON'T THEY HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON BILLS AFTER THEY ARE INTRODUCED ? ? ? DIDN'T THE STATE NRA SOUND THE ALARM ON THIS ILL REASONED LAW ? ? ?

IN MY STATE, WHEN ANTI-GUN LEGISLATION BILLS ARE PENDING, WE ARE NOTIFIED BY OUR "2ND AMENDMENT COALITION"--A GROUP OF CITIZENS OF WHICH I AM A MEMBER. WE THEN STORM THE STATE HOUSE WITH BODIES, AND LINE UP TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE LEGISLATION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE BURN UP THE TELEPHONE LINES TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND FLOOD THEIR IN BOXES WITH E-MAILS, VOICING OUR OPPOSITION--AND REMINDING THEM THAT WE VOTE ! ! ! SO FAR, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AVERT ANY DISASTROUS ASSAULTS ON OUR 2A RIGHTS, BUT IT IS AN ONGOING BATTLE. I FEAR THAT THE GUN OWNERS OF NM HAVE FALLEN VICTIM TO THEIR OWN APATHY…...

 

[federali]

Wording?

If the legislation says you may only carry one handgun, that's pretty clear. If the legislation says you can't carry two handguns, to me it means you may carry one handgun or three or more handguns. Just don''t carry two handguns!

 

[kozmic]

I hope none of the lunatic legislators from NY are reading this. It sounds like something screwed up enough for them to embrace and pass in the middle of the night (you know, for the sake of the kids)!

I've got 3 pages of handguns of all types and calibers on my NYS CC permit and to date no "official" has ever asked me if I'm qualified or even remotely competent in their usage let alone seen me in action!!!

 

[one eye joe]

THAT'S TANTAMOUNT TO GUN REGISTRATION---W/O THE SERIAL #S, I HOPE. IN MY STATE, YOU QUALIFY IN A CALIBER OF YOUR OWN CHOICE. YOU ARE THEN PERMITTED TO CARRY ANY WEAPON IN THAT CALIBER, OR SMALLER. THERE IS NO NEED TO LIST THE PARTICULAR FIREARM…………..

 

[federali]

NYS does not have "shall issue" CCW permits. Therefore, there is no qualification requirement except for armed security guards and retired LEOs if they wish to carry their handguns out of state and to be exempt from the 10-round magazine limitation.

 

[wheelgunguy]

Sounds like someone has been watching to many Yosemite Sam cartoons.

No disrespect intended to Sam.

 

[peh_7]

Seems Strange

If I understand what is being said, if you can qualify with 45 (Auto) then it's OK to cary any "Magnum" class with a smaller caliber, i.e. 44, 41, 357, 10mm etc. and should still be able to handle it??? of course if you could qualify with 460. Come to think of it 460 is 45 caliber. Anyway, If all this is true I guess moving to NM is out for me. Better make it Texas.

 

[tobimaru]

If I understand what is being said, if you can qualify with 45 (Auto) then it's OK to cary any "Magnum" class with a smaller caliber, i.e. 44, 41, 357, 10mm etc. and should still be able to handle it??? of course if you could qualify with 460. Come to think of it 460 is 45 caliber. Anyway, If all this is true I guess moving to NM is out for me. Better make it Texas.

Just spent 4 months in MI, gun registration there is very strict!

I just learned as of 2013 in Texas you can qualify with any handgun (semi auto or revolver) and then carry any gun afterwards. .32ACP is still the smallest caliber you can test with, but you can carry more than one handgun as well.
Also, as of 2013, CHL renewal is a simple fee and electronic signature. No more retesting or going back to class. No gun registration either, aside from NFA stuff.

 

[wheelgunguy]

My NM permit states that you may carry the caliber that you qualified with or smaller. If you want to be permitted for revolver and auto loader, you must qualify with both. There is also a catagory for derringers.

If I owned a gun range in NM that offered CCW training. I would make sure and have a S&W 500 and a Desert Eagle .50 available for rent to qualify. That should about handle everything but the derringer.

These politicians are severely lacking in the common sense department.

 

[upcountry]

In NM, you can qualify with a .50 if you want and can carry anything up to that caliber. You must do so for both semi-auto and revolver and the CCW will state what your limits are for both. You can only carry one handgun on you at anytime. So a .45 auto and revolver qual on your CCW will cover anything up to .45 for either. I never paid much attention to the whole derringer question. But NM is still a heck of a lot better than MA.

 

[ladder13]

I hope none of the lunatic legislators from NY are reading this. It sounds like something screwed up enough for them to embrace and pass in the middle of the night (you know, for the sake of the kids)!

I've got 3 pages of handguns of all types and calibers on my NYS CC permit and to date no "official" has ever asked me if I'm qualified or even remotely competent in their usage let alone seen me in action!!!

I'm glad to live in a "free" state where I can carry one or 10 handguns of any caliber.