My rant - Didn't your parents teach you anything?

You nailed it! I'm 71 and worked with lots of kids-juvy kids in 1970's were the "old style" delinquents, then I was the superintendent of a juvy program from 1986-90 and they were the new style, all had issues of course and the problems were derived from similar stuff but the drugs & the isim's change, etc. but underlying is sameo-no parenting. Some are parented but mental issues, mostly it's the lack already mentioned.
The "regular run" of school kids in the rural, E KY schools I worked in are by far great kids that sometimes have the helicopter parenting too. I also coached kids in teens and general run is great kids. My grand children are well parented and vary little from what we think of as the kids of the past but they do have a society that's changed a bunch. Think of the stuff a kids exposed to now from my days growing up in 1940'2 & 50's-WOW! My 4 yr old GD has an old smart phone that she listens to Waylon Jenning's as one of her fave singers, yet watches Peppa Pig on TV. I asked her dad (son) if he would mind me filling in the details on Waylon for her.
I say kids are kids-if they get the chance to be such...
Me thinks the draft or a "national service venue" would serve our youth well.
+1

You guys born in the 40s and 50s think back and I'm sure you'll remember your parents saying the same thing. And I'm sure the if parents said the same. This has been going on since the dawn of man
 
Be careful about talking **** about your grandkids. They are a reflection of your kids, who are a reflection of you!
Perhaps 'you' failed.
 
I am proud to say that my wife and I raised our kids properly and it's now showing through on how my daughter and son in law are teaching our granddaughter who at 4 years old is already a very polite young lady!;)

I've said this many times that this country has no real class anymore, not as it once did!:rolleyes:
 
I still see plenty of kids with a good upbringing. Unfortunately, it's the buttheads that really stand out.

I think this is the norm. A while back my wife and I were at the airport waiting to get on our flight. A family with small kids was in the same waiting area. The little kids were running around in their PJs.

My wife looked at me and said, "Our daughter in law would never allow her kids to be dressed like that in public."

Which is true. Both she and my son are good parents. When my son was growing up, we sometimes wondered if people thought he was raised by wolves because of the way he acted at home. In public, he was a totally different kid.

I expect that when the time comes, my daughter and her future husband will raise their kids properly.

Sorry, OP, your rant barely nudged my rant-o-meter.
 
I see full grown adults waltz around in stores in their PJ's. All I can think (thank gawd I do not have Tourette's) is that they are too @#$%^^ lazy to get dressed. Then you look at their personal hygiene and realize that they quite literally just got out of bed (bed-head,... smell, unshaven etc). When did this become acceptable in public?
 
What like toe tags?

No, picture a pair of old, dusty, (we're in high desert) running shoes with a sheet of paper on top placed on a nice coffee table.

This is the picture in my mind.

Some type of meat is brought to the table, sliced, on a platter. It has sour cream poured over it. The child in question, instead of stabbing a piece of meat with his fork, picks it up with his fingers, possibly moving one piece aside to get to the piece he wants.

He then takes his spoon and scoops up as much sour cream as he can, leaving none for anyone else (kinda like the scene in You've Got Mail, with Tom Hanks and the caviar, at 2:14 into this clip) and when he had gotten all he could using his spoon, stuck his hand down and scooped up a finger-full, off the serving platter, licked the finger clean, and then stuck his now-spit-covered-finger back down to the serving platter to get another finger-full.
That's about right. You described the situation better than I did.

Be careful about talking **** about your grandkids. They are a reflection of your kids, who are a reflection of you!
Perhaps 'you' failed.

I don't buy that one bit. We all know decent, outstanding folks, parents who raised their kids, gave their kids everything they needed to make it in life, (or at least tried to) only to have them turn out quite different.

For example, my folks didn't raise my sister with permissiveness she raises her kids with.
 
Yeah - What's with that? :confused:
Here in SW-TN almost all guys, young AND old, wear their ball cap while eating in restaurants --- I don't get it, but it doesn't seem to bother anyone.

Maybe it's best to keep what's underneath in it's own habitat ;).
 
The hat thing again? As has been shown before in a different thread, people wore hats indoors even in the 50s.

And at this point we should also all salute each other as we walk by since the two are linked
 
It can be worse-or the worstest

A grandson picks his nose and eats it in public, no less-We were in a nice restaurant and I thought he had a plastic fishing worm.....forget it. The kid is 30-going into politics.
 
I know what you are saying about the lack of parenting skills, but calling someone else's kid out in front of everyone at the dinner table doesn't seem like the best approach.
 
I know what you are saying about the lack of parenting skills, but calling someone else's kid out in front of everyone at the dinner table doesn't seem like the best approach.

Talking to them does nothing. I hope they were embarrassed. Maybe their behavior will change.

Besides, I don't want his unwashed hands (we all know how clean 12yo boys are) all over the food. Know what I mean?
 
Golly,Wouldn't it be nice if all families were like Ozzie and Harriet???

How you act (or allow your children to act) in your own home is one thing.One should not assume that that behavior is acceptable in someone else's home or place of business.It really isn't that hard to teach someone the difference.
 
Why can't they be like we were? Perfect in every way!
What's the matter with kids today?


Sir, I'll be the first to admit I was FAR from perfect, in-fact I was a real little ****. But I would have never dared some of the stunts the O/P and others have posted about. If I had my Dad or adult in charge would have knocked my dick in the dirt, right damn fast.
 
To be honest I had to teach my parents a thing or too. Now my kids want to teach me :)
 
Daily shaving for men did not become a regular thing until WW2, when so many men had to do it in the Army. The other big force was advertising, the idea was spread that the clean shaven look was "good" and whiskers were bad. Who spread that idea? Burma Shave and other folks who sold shaving cream, razors, what not. Up through WW2 the average American man only shaved once a week. This is somewhat returning as the norm again.

As for shoes, people did not even used to be able to afford shoes. In the 1930s you would see kids barefoot all the time, and rustic adults as well.

At the height of manners, as we are led to understand them, in Victorian times...you could smoke every where, clean people used the spit toon, bathing for the average person was perhaps once a week, horse manure littered streets...and the germ theory was only just coming around.

TV, ads, and movies lie to you and give you a false idea of reality. There was good resson school kids used to have to be hosed with DDT.
 
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