kozmic
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Why is it when a well mannered, polite young person mixes with an uncouth, ill-mannered savage the good kid reverts to the lowest common denominator?
My rant - Didn't your parents teach you anything?
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BLACKHAWKNJ
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Many parents today are parents only in the biological sense-"breeders" is a better term. Likewise many families are mere collections of people who share some genes and an address.
today's society = its ALL about me
young or older...they can do nothing wrong.......if challenged...they retort ......what's your problem.......
the jails are over crowded as well as the government's social programs..............think about it...............
young or older...they can do nothing wrong.......if challenged...they retort ......what's your problem.......
the jails are over crowded as well as the government's social programs..............think about it...............
mstem
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Whoever is giving them the smacking that they need better hope someone doesn't call the cops or social services.
snubby, my daughter got smacked if she needed it & my soon to be 2 y/o grand daughter gets smacked also if she needs it.
chaparrito
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For the record, No Child Left Behind has/had nothing to do with "social promotion" OR bad manners. It had to do with grade level exit expectations in Mathematics and the Language Arts. Its direct descendent is the Common Core standards set, which requires MANDATORY retention in third grade for all students who are not reading at grade level. That is all. Regarding the OP, the fruit doesn't fall very far from the tree. After 30 plus years working with kids and knowing their backgrounds, the "bad seed" child is so very very rare as to be almost nonexistent.
Mickey D
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Ματθιας;138535763 said:
That's the problem.
We raised Our Kid's to respect Others and to say please and thank you. They knew right from wrong from a early age and every Sunday We went to Church and on Wednesday evenings They had Awana's for a two hours and They loved it.It was like Cub Scouts but at Church.
I had promised Myself that I would not raise Them the way I was and it Paid off. One is a Probation Officer,One is a Engineer at a World Class Company and One is studying to be a Doctor.
And They still like to Hang out with Dad.
I had promised Myself that I would not raise Them the way I was and it Paid off. One is a Probation Officer,One is a Engineer at a World Class Company and One is studying to be a Doctor.
And They still like to Hang out with Dad.
to paraphrase Paul Harvey many years ago:
"America has forgotten how to blush"
"America has forgotten how to blush"
Arik
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You were a real #### but you never dared to?????? Touch food with your hands on a plate and put your feet up on a table? What was considered #### in your time? Not making the bed? Bad BO? wearing none matching colored socks?
Not my reflection!
NO ! ! ! ! !
When I was growing up, I spent time outdoors doing what ever boys did. I had physical coordination, could make things with my hands, and was very thin because I was always doing something physical.
My daughter was the academic, studious student -- a real bookworm, but she had NO common sense. I would ask her questions about her activities, decisions, responses, homework, and I could not get her to think logically. Her mind was just wired differently and she was intelligent. My son was in life for the fun. He would not accept any advice, was determined to make all of life's mistakes himself, and became a very self-centered person.
My daughter's three children are the video game champions. Food is the focus of their lives, and outdoor activity is not part of their "lifestyle". Texting, video gaming, electronics are their life. The two grand daughters look like butterballs, and both are in middle school. The grand son was in football for several years, but calorie intake (food consumption) was more than physical exertion.
The part I just don't understand is their father is a successful air force officer, fanatical about physical fitness, and does nothing about his family's well-being. His office, "man cave" is a shrine to his AF career without a single family picture.
My grand kids are not a reflection of me! I'd drop kick their fat butts outside, walk around the neighborhood, and then start mowing the lawn and cleaning up the yard. After a lot of lather, slather, and sweat you will clean up your rooms and then you can have a shower.
NO ! ! ! ! !
When I was growing up, I spent time outdoors doing what ever boys did. I had physical coordination, could make things with my hands, and was very thin because I was always doing something physical.
My daughter was the academic, studious student -- a real bookworm, but she had NO common sense. I would ask her questions about her activities, decisions, responses, homework, and I could not get her to think logically. Her mind was just wired differently and she was intelligent. My son was in life for the fun. He would not accept any advice, was determined to make all of life's mistakes himself, and became a very self-centered person.
My daughter's three children are the video game champions. Food is the focus of their lives, and outdoor activity is not part of their "lifestyle". Texting, video gaming, electronics are their life. The two grand daughters look like butterballs, and both are in middle school. The grand son was in football for several years, but calorie intake (food consumption) was more than physical exertion.
The part I just don't understand is their father is a successful air force officer, fanatical about physical fitness, and does nothing about his family's well-being. His office, "man cave" is a shrine to his AF career without a single family picture.
My grand kids are not a reflection of me! I'd drop kick their fat butts outside, walk around the neighborhood, and then start mowing the lawn and cleaning up the yard. After a lot of lather, slather, and sweat you will clean up your rooms and then you can have a shower.
Long Story, Short:
Children are an extension of their parents.
If the parents had good manners-the children will have good manners, IF, the parents loved their children enough to take the time to learn/teach the children good/acceptable manner.
Children are an extension of their parents.
If the parents had good manners-the children will have good manners, IF, the parents loved their children enough to take the time to learn/teach the children good/acceptable manner.
Taurus627
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In my opinion it's just human nature to not care about things if they don't belong to you. I see it's really bad in the younger generations.
I think that is because in today's society, disciplining your children is not "PC" so parents are afraid to do it.
It also shows in the lousy customer service I get from teeny boppers when out and about.
I think that is because in today's society, disciplining your children is not "PC" so parents are afraid to do it.
It also shows in the lousy customer service I get from teeny boppers when out and about.
JJEH
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Kids will be kids and we try to do the best we can. Respect, discipline and manners are big in our house. Our kids check their boundaries (often) and then they'll get in trouble. Usually they behave in public but the thing is they know how to behave, they just choose not to at times.
My wife is (quite literally) the nicest person I've ever met.
She helps folks without being asked, is honest to a fault and is probably the most compassionate person imaginable. Has NEVER drank, smoked, or done drugs that weren't prescribed.
Her brother is a couple of years younger - Raised by the same parents in the same house etc, etc, etc.
He's a sociopath and basically a career criminal. ALWAYS drunk and stoned. Given a choice between doing right or wrong he'll pick wrong every time. His pellet rifle suddenly was shooting shotgun patterns instead of into the bull - He bought his daughter a new one for her birthday and put the old one in the box and kept the new one for himself. (Just one example - You wouldn't believe most)
AND - Their parents were polite to a fault, honest, hard working, church active folks.
So much for the *raise 'em right* theory
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That and more! Anything we were caught at that even hinted at disrespect bought trouble, not only from the parents.
We were grounded for things like setting fire to abandoned cars, we were careful to keep it semi contained, joyriding someone's john boat to go shrimping or wakeboarding on some plywood but God Forbid we dissed Mom or Dad or even worse, cause a neighbor to make inquiries.
The worst thing for us to hear as we were beating feet was "(last name), I know yer old man!".
ginzo
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The key word here is "adult". Let me 'splain.........
It didn't matter whose parent or house/place you were at, you toed the line or the "Adult" you were with would administer the whack if needed. THEN, when you got home, you got another just 'cause you embarrassed yourself in the 1st place.
Am I old or what?
It didn't matter whose parent or house/place you were at, you toed the line or the "Adult" you were with would administer the whack if needed. THEN, when you got home, you got another just 'cause you embarrassed yourself in the 1st place.
Am I old or what?
samuelrp
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I know it bugs you, but you've got to realize (some) people are dumb as red clay bricks, without manners, and can't help it. Hard to let it go though. If you ever worked with "the public", or been to wallmart, you just have to laugh and go on.
Frizzman
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My mother held the opinion that proper manners and civilized behavior are an indicator of one's class and intelligence. She educated me in the finer points of etiquette and table manners. I wasn't a perfect little gentleman. We didn't dress in formal attire for dinner but coming to the table in undershirts or unwashed wasn't acceptable...I have been grateful for her instruction because it has allowed me to dine in good restaurants or in the homes of more refined people without feeling embarrassed that I would be a source of amusement to my fellow diners...My father was somewhat less concerned with such things but he did not tolerate obnoxious behavior and acting in a slovenly fashion. He was a retired CPO and expected me to make an effort to be "squared away"...I vaguely remember that went went out to the Chiefs'Club for dinner occasionally. One time, I was acting out and attempting to be defiant when we were there. I was warned to behave properly. I assume I continued misbehaving and wound up sitting in the car while they had dinner. I didn't do that again...These days, I find the lack of grooming and any concern with appearance to be widespread. With the warmer weather, the droves of people clad in dirty shorts with tees and tank tops and flip flops are legion. Its always such a pleasure to have lunch with a view of someone's nasty feet and panorama of tattoos on exposed flesh. I don't know if this is due to lack of self-awareness or ignorance. Its both I suspect...Then again, the coarse behavior of the great unwashed is not a recent phenomena.
Harrison
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Common courtesy and respect for others is not taught or thought to be important these days.
The key word here is "adult". Let me 'splain.........
It didn't matter whose parent or house/place you were at, you toed the line or the "Adult" you were with would administer the whack if needed. THEN, when you got home, you got another just 'cause you embarrassed yourself in the 1st place.
Am I old or what?
Sounds like my neighborhood. That's just the way it was.
Best thing is we didn't get all bent out of shape, carry a grudge or blame anyone but ourselves, the same ones that chewed off a chunk would come back later and offer a piece of their porch on a rainy day or pitch in some old plywood for a fort.
People cared what happened on their streets.
