Can the 25 ACP be taken seriously?
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Engine49guy
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Man I remember those Ravens....cost like $50 to $75 bucks back in 1989...
The only .25 ACP firearm I have left is an NAA Stinger 1 shot pen gun ,
basicly grandfathered by the ATF because it swivels into a gun shape prior to firing.
The only .25 ACP firearm I have left is an NAA Stinger 1 shot pen gun ,
basicly grandfathered by the ATF because it swivels into a gun shape prior to firing.
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Sadly last year a police officer in my area died from a single hit with a 25. Hit his carotid in the neck. If it is what you have it can do the job. Every caliber has stories of spectacular stops and failures attached to it. There seems to be a tendency to amplify small caliber failure and dismiss large caliber failures. I shoot and carry a beretta 21 in 25 acp from time to time. I actually shoot it and rapid fire mag dumps at 7-10 yards are held inside a playing card and at 25 yards can hold groups inside the ten ring of a ppc target. Shot placement is king. Hit the right spot regardless of caliber it will work wrong spot same thing for failures. There are lots of stories of 45's hitting people multiple times and not stopping them. Today there are better hideout guns and calibers for sure. But a well placed 25 can ruin an assailants day no doubt
AnthemBassMan
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My old Titan 25 is pretty accurate. But I always pull the shots a little because of how small it fits in my hand. Either way I get decent groups from it. This was at the typical 21 ft mark.
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SAFireman
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wow....the zombie thread lives!
I find it hard to believe that I started this thread a few years ago and it is still plucking along.
I was contemplating carrying a Colt 25 ACP vest pocket like the one that my father's mother carried. My sister inherited the little Colt and now it does dresser drawer duty. I don't think that it has even been cleaned in the time that she has owned it. I can only hope that it is well oiled and relaxing comfortably.
I did inherit my great grandfather's Armi Galesi (shown in the pimp gun thread
). I was able to repair the issues that my dad had reported (unreliable feed/extraction, ect). I have now shot a full box of JSP rounds out of it. It is remarkable comfortable to shoot, but just as heavy as my 36 (maybe heavier?). I might carry it one day for 'old times sake', but I never knew my great grandfather, so memories of him have to be relayed by my dad. He was a judge and carried it concealed in a leather glove. Apparently, he was quite a character, but I will let dad relate those stories if he chooses to post them.
Thanks for all the comments so far, it seems that the little 25 has been carried by a lot of different folks over the years, and it can still do the job.....and nobody has volunteered to to stand in front of one for testing.
Keep the stories coming gents
I find it hard to believe that I started this thread a few years ago and it is still plucking along.
I was contemplating carrying a Colt 25 ACP vest pocket like the one that my father's mother carried. My sister inherited the little Colt and now it does dresser drawer duty. I don't think that it has even been cleaned in the time that she has owned it. I can only hope that it is well oiled and relaxing comfortably.
I did inherit my great grandfather's Armi Galesi (shown in the pimp gun thread
). I was able to repair the issues that my dad had reported (unreliable feed/extraction, ect). I have now shot a full box of JSP rounds out of it. It is remarkable comfortable to shoot, but just as heavy as my 36 (maybe heavier?). I might carry it one day for 'old times sake', but I never knew my great grandfather, so memories of him have to be relayed by my dad. He was a judge and carried it concealed in a leather glove. Apparently, he was quite a character, but I will let dad relate those stories if he chooses to post them.Thanks for all the comments so far, it seems that the little 25 has been carried by a lot of different folks over the years, and it can still do the job.....and nobody has volunteered to to stand in front of one for testing.
Keep the stories coming gents
Two .25 ACP anecdotes from my college days in the '70s
Some great stories here; thought I would pass along two stories about the .25 ACP from my youth.
I went to a small college that had a really good basketball program. One of the best players graduated and was hired as an assistant coach. He was built like a brick house, tough and hard. He was caught in bed one night with another guy's wife or girlfriend and was shot in the heart with a .25 auto at close range. He dropped dead instantly. A buddy of mine was working in the medical examiner's office where the autopsy was done. The ME said this guy was the most fit person he had ever examined, but a .25 to the heart dropped him instantly.
The other story I read in the newspaper in he '70s. A young man was leaving his mobile home for a night on the town. As he descended the steps outside the front door, the .25 auto he was carrying in his front pants pocket fired, the bullet hitting his femoral artery. He bled to death in his front yard. That story shook me up. Now, with what we know about tourniquets, I wonder if he couldn't have saved himself by using his belt to tie off his thigh. But we didn't have cell phones back then and he might not have been able to call for help.
I have the Browning Baby Lightweight .25 Auto my Dad owned. He loved little guns, the smaller and lighter the better. I used to give him a hard time about carrying a small, low powered gun, but at least he was armed. I'm glad he didn't have to use it. My son and I take it out every once in a while and shoot it and swap reminiscences about his Grandfather. It hits steel targets with authority. I enjoy the .25s and am always on the lookout for a Beretta 950bs or a Colt/Asta. They are fun to play with but my Ruger .380 is a lot better choice for a pocket gun.
Some great stories here; thought I would pass along two stories about the .25 ACP from my youth.
I went to a small college that had a really good basketball program. One of the best players graduated and was hired as an assistant coach. He was built like a brick house, tough and hard. He was caught in bed one night with another guy's wife or girlfriend and was shot in the heart with a .25 auto at close range. He dropped dead instantly. A buddy of mine was working in the medical examiner's office where the autopsy was done. The ME said this guy was the most fit person he had ever examined, but a .25 to the heart dropped him instantly.
The other story I read in the newspaper in he '70s. A young man was leaving his mobile home for a night on the town. As he descended the steps outside the front door, the .25 auto he was carrying in his front pants pocket fired, the bullet hitting his femoral artery. He bled to death in his front yard. That story shook me up. Now, with what we know about tourniquets, I wonder if he couldn't have saved himself by using his belt to tie off his thigh. But we didn't have cell phones back then and he might not have been able to call for help.
I have the Browning Baby Lightweight .25 Auto my Dad owned. He loved little guns, the smaller and lighter the better. I used to give him a hard time about carrying a small, low powered gun, but at least he was armed. I'm glad he didn't have to use it. My son and I take it out every once in a while and shoot it and swap reminiscences about his Grandfather. It hits steel targets with authority. I enjoy the .25s and am always on the lookout for a Beretta 950bs or a Colt/Asta. They are fun to play with but my Ruger .380 is a lot better choice for a pocket gun.
andyo5
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Hopefully he carries the .38 in his waist. It would be awfully messy if he carried it his waste!
The way I remember it from the Bond books I read in the 1960s was that in "From Russia with Love," his Beretta .25 caught on his clothes and malfunctioned when he tried to shot the Soviet woman with the poison-tipped blade in her shoe.
In the next book, "Dr. No," Bond had been ordered to upgun. The armorer Q gave him a choice of a J frame S&W or a Walther PPK, probably in .32 ACP. Bond carries the Smith on his mission but loses it in combat. Thereafter he uses the Walther.
As I was typing this, I did a quick search to check my memory and found this very interesting site about the guns of 007.
The Handguns of Ian Fleming?s James Bond
Top coat, top hat,
And I don't worry coz my wallet's fat.
Black shades, white gloves,
Lookin' sharp lookin' for love.
They come runnin' just as fast as they can
'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.
Now, that's a beautiful, historic little gun, no matter what you think of the ballistics.
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Top coat, top hat,
And I don't worry coz my wallet's fat.
Black shades, white gloves,
Lookin' sharp lookin' for love.
They come runnin' just as fast as they can
'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.
I don't care what anyone says. That is...
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ibewbull
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I have some mouse guns somewhere.
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ibewbull
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I have a mini .22 revolver somewhere. A HS .22 mag derringer in GOLD.
Plus a .22 short Astra which is really accurate for a tiny .22.
None get carried any more.
The Bauer I had 30 years back is long gone. After pocket carry on a fishing trip I actually needed it. She was bound up with sand and lint. So I used an axe handle to TCOB. Nothing serious though.
I will keep my faith in a J frame now. 158 GR FBI loads.
Recently I opted to carry an LCP since my surgery requires no belt and it is so flat and light it will do for now.
Serious as a heart attack the .25 will still put a hurting on you.
Plus a .22 short Astra which is really accurate for a tiny .22.
None get carried any more.
The Bauer I had 30 years back is long gone. After pocket carry on a fishing trip I actually needed it. She was bound up with sand and lint. So I used an axe handle to TCOB. Nothing serious though.
I will keep my faith in a J frame now. 158 GR FBI loads.
Recently I opted to carry an LCP since my surgery requires no belt and it is so flat and light it will do for now.
Serious as a heart attack the .25 will still put a hurting on you.
I'm confident that I would take a .25 much more seriously from the muzzle than from the screen of my iPad 2 but no, I don't really take it seriously. For the past 10+ years I've carried a Glock 19 (9mm), 23 (.40), or one of 3 J-frame S&W .38s and realistically .38 Spl is as "low" as I go for CCW except on very rare occasions when I'll carry a Kel-Tec P-32 (yes, I know..."it's only a .32") as it is unbelievably easy to conceal in any situation.
Protected One
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Failing to take ANY CALIBER gun seriously could be a fatal mistake by the one posing the threat.
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Shorty 45 MK2
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So after four whole years of talking about this, is there a consensus? Anyone reached a definite conclusion, or does the (yawn) issue need further study and research?
A complete and total maybe.
Rick_A
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Yes.
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Began LEO in 1962. First service revolver was a .38 spl 4" blued Colt Trooper (used). On the advice of a "Seasoned" Officer I acquired a Browning "Baby .25 acp which I carried in my handcuff pouch and handcuffs in my right rear pocket. In the future after California's "Onion Field" incident I CCW a Colt Agent in my front pants pocket and a hidden handcuff key taped to the rear of my belt.
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