BUGs how many carry them?

The Big D said:
What, pray tell, does the potential availability of a partner or backup have to do with the discussion of carrying multiple handguns?

Be safe.
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If there are more than one of you, you have someone to cover you whilst you reload, move to a better position, or fix a malfunctioning/broken gun. And, guns, due to target fixation, catch a surprising number of hits in a fight; hits that can disable a gun. If you have a second gun, you can stay in the fight.
 
elm_creek_smith said:
If there are more than one of you, you have someone to cover you whilst you reload, move to a better position, or fix a malfunctioning/broken gun. And, guns, due to target fixation, catch a surprising number of hits in a fight; hits that can disable a gun. If you have a second gun, you can stay in the fight.
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Though the added bonus of a BUG to use for a partner is nice, I cannot imagine a regular person ever being in this situation.

Youre talking about a major gun fight here, not the usual SD. Yes I understand prepare for the worst and it can always happen but this situation seems all the more unlikely on top of needing those extra mags.
 
I wish I had saved it or taken a photo of it. About two weeks ago, I was shooting a miscellany of ammunition through a Rock Island Model 200. I was attempting to show a friend the recoil differences between different loads. One of the rounds went click and not bang. The primer was dented. All the other rounds went off. But that one, it failed. It was one of the nickel cased plup P Federal Personal Defense rounds. Not the premium of all premiums, but a respectable offering. And it failed. Bad things like that happen.

They happen with firearms too. Generally at really bad times.

Anyway, it is indeed handy to be able to arm the nearest semi useful idiot. Sure there is the risk that they might accidentally shoot you, or themselves, but that has to weigh against their usefulness in making noise and drawing fire. Or more prosaically it does offer a certain reasurrance, and deterrence, two being simply better than one.
 
When I was working dope and serving warrants on a team,
I carried a sidearm and a primary sub-gun or short CAR-15.

When humping the hills in search of mary-jane, sometimes an M-4, a gov't model and
a third with shot cartridges for encounters with un-friendly serpents in the tall and un-cut.

Now n days, mostly a 44 or 45 primary and a discreet second.
Cause a man never knows....I have a lot of faces to remember...
Some that haven't got over it, just gotta remember one face.

Don't want to get caught with my britches down, ya know.


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ClayCow said:
Though the added bonus of a BUG to use for a partner is nice, I cannot imagine a regular person ever being in this situation.

Youre talking about a major gun fight here, not the usual SD. Yes I understand prepare for the worst and it can always happen but this situation seems all the more unlikely on top of needing those extra mags.
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I worked at a range part time for a few years. I've seen every major brand of firearm break or malfunction for many different reasons.

Admittedly I don't carry two as often as I used to. About 50% of the time. Which is primarily when I'm out with my wife or my dad is visiting. I can hand either the BUG so they defend themselves if I go down.

I won't go down easy. But at least I will know that they have a fighting chance.
 
A simple malfunction of a gun does not require a bug nor an extra magazine. I'm sure it's preferred to have either but it may not be required. As for your gun breaking during an SD situation, sure anything can happen but I might as well throw in that a lightning could strike you in a SD situation and your guns would be useless with you shocked to death on the ground. If you want to carry a BUG go ahead, i'll forego the extra weight and bulge. I just don't see that gunfight scene happening and i'll accept some risk which is why I don't carry a BUG.
 
ClayCow said:
A simple malfunction of a gun does not require a bug nor an extra magazine. I'm sure it's preferred to have either but it may not be required. As for your gun breaking during an SD situation, sure anything can happen but I might as well throw in that a lightning could strike you in a SD situation and your guns would be useless with you shocked to death on the ground. If you want to carry a BUG go ahead, i'll forego the extra weight and bulge. I just don't see that gunfight scene happening and i'll accept some risk which is why I don't carry a BUG.
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"MAY not be required" May being the key word.

About ten years ago a man intervened during a mall shooting with his concealed handgun. He was called a hero for distracting the shooter so that a few others could make it to safety. But because his gun malfunctioned he is confined to a wheel chair for life.

A BUG is a personal choice and I respect yours. It's not for everyone. Neither of us is right or wrong.
 
Kanewpadle said:
"MAY not be required" May being the key word.

About ten years ago a man intervened during a mall shooting with his concealed handgun. He was called a hero for distracting the shooter so that a few others could make it to safety. But because his gun malfunctioned he is confined to a wheel chair for life.

A BUG is a personal choice and I respect yours. It's not for everyone. Neither of us is right or wrong.
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Using May be required is the worst logic I see on these forums. You may always need anything and everything. If he had been wearing body armor he may not have been confined to a wheelchair. If he had an extra mag he may not have been confined.
 
For me.....

Back up guns are kinda like sutures....
When ya need em, ya general really need em!

And yes, I keep a suture kit in my saddle bags and truck.
Cause ya never know, if or when you'll be needing them for man or beast.

Just a thought from an old man that's been shot,
shot at and cut with a knife and lived to tell about it.


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ClayCow said:
Using May be required is the worst logic I see on these forums. You may always need anything and everything. If he had been wearing body armor he may not have been confined to a wheelchair. If he had an extra mag he may not have been confined.
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True. That's why I borrowed the "may" from your post.

The point is, people should prepare themselves the way they think they should. It's nobody's business anyway.
 
Kanewpadle said:
True. That's why I borrowed the "may" from your post.

The point is, people should prepare themselves the way they think they should. It's nobody's business anyway.
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Ill agree with that. Truly, it's America and we're all weird in one way or another.
 
I won't argue with any of you and I have rarely carried a backup gun. Professional law enforcement people often have back up guns, mace, tasers, partners with guns. Plenty of options, some good, none perfect.

Commercial passenger planes universally have two or more engines. Ocean going boats almost always have two or more engines. Trains that leave the yard have two or more engines. There is a trend here.
 
ghstrydr164 said:
In California your CCW is for the gun that has its serial number on the permit you may not carry another gun in its place or a BUG.
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In CA each county Sheriff has a lot of say in what is allowed.

In my country we can have up to 3 guns on the permit -- and have to have them registered with the state DOJ and the serial number is on the permit.

I believe it is just find to carry any one, two or three at once as long as they are all listed on the permit.

FWIW I've never carried more than one, and don't plan to. I'm not an LEO and if I see trouble, I head the other way.
 
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