Tex--
That gun Connery displayed could also have been a 948 (in .22 LR) n'est ce pas?
Tim
That gun Connery displayed could also have been a 948 (in .22 LR) n'est ce pas?
Tim
A Brit-made six-gun that I love, the Enfield No. 2 MK I*
- Thread starter dabney
- Start date
Texas Star:
Well, if you think some books may be overpriced, wait til your daughter is in college. I'm still teaching, and I'm embarrassed at how much the textbooks for my classes cost. The publishers send them to faculty for free, but the students are paying outrageous prices for books. The PAPERBACK, not hardback book for my Introduction to Criminal Justice course is $198.00. Hardbacks can cost $300-$400 apiece. Heck, you can get a pretty nice revolver for what one of those books costs. It is a racket, if you ask me, and the publishers introduce new editions almost every year, so that it is hard to find used texts. But don't get me started on that.
I received one of the books that I ordered today, a modest little paperback: "The Webley Service Revolver" by Robert Maze published by Osprey, that British outfit that does a lot of military themed books. It is only about 80 pages, but costs only $18.95 at Amazon. I'll let you know what I think after I've read it.
Still waiting on the major books: The Handgun, and the one on Enfield revolvers.
The Study of the Enfield in a special place!
I must confess that my love/study of the .380 Enfield would sometimes take me in directions that I loved to travel. Since the boys are all grown up and out making their path in life, my beautiful bride and I celebrated our 34th anniversary together down in Panama City Beach recently. We made the 4-hour trip from Columbus and stayed 4-days at one of the last Mom and Pop's left in PCB. This was in February and the crowd was very low. None of the summer time bumper to bumper traffic on Front Beach Road. Nowadays, I never leave home unarmed because I done got too old to fight and too old to run. My lovely bride still thinks of me as her strong warrior, I am anything but now. Most of the time my arm, for these special trips, is a snub nose Charter Arms Bulldog. A 2.5-inch stainless model that is easy to carry on my person in a inside-the-pants holster with a loose pull over shirt to conceal it from public view. This last Panama City Beach trip I added one of my Enfield's in a zipper gun rug, carefully positioned under the drivers seat. I also stoked 6-rounds of Remington .38S&W in my Brit arm and took 12-rounds of reloaded 200-gr. LRN as back up support. And off we went, carefully insured by Charter Arms and Enfield. I took much research material on the Enfield Revolver with me and had one of the "best" study sessions ever, sitting on the motel room balcony looking out upon "GOD'S" creation, in a beach sunset! Small simple things like this move me emotionally while reflecting upon "what" a Mighty Great God we have while observing his creation. Nothing man-made will ever compare!
The study of the Enfield Revolver was greatly enjoyed on this past, relaxing trip, I was able to get away with my best friend, to a special place made by GOD for our enjoyment. Study, the reflection of the material that I read, sipping a cold adult beverage, and praising GOD for His might, His perfection, and the many blessings HE has given me, like my British made Enfield No. 2 MK I* Revolvers! Another favorite Enfield story of mine. I hope it pleases my friends very much!
David
I must confess that my love/study of the .380 Enfield would sometimes take me in directions that I loved to travel. Since the boys are all grown up and out making their path in life, my beautiful bride and I celebrated our 34th anniversary together down in Panama City Beach recently. We made the 4-hour trip from Columbus and stayed 4-days at one of the last Mom and Pop's left in PCB. This was in February and the crowd was very low. None of the summer time bumper to bumper traffic on Front Beach Road. Nowadays, I never leave home unarmed because I done got too old to fight and too old to run. My lovely bride still thinks of me as her strong warrior, I am anything but now. Most of the time my arm, for these special trips, is a snub nose Charter Arms Bulldog. A 2.5-inch stainless model that is easy to carry on my person in a inside-the-pants holster with a loose pull over shirt to conceal it from public view. This last Panama City Beach trip I added one of my Enfield's in a zipper gun rug, carefully positioned under the drivers seat. I also stoked 6-rounds of Remington .38S&W in my Brit arm and took 12-rounds of reloaded 200-gr. LRN as back up support. And off we went, carefully insured by Charter Arms and Enfield. I took much research material on the Enfield Revolver with me and had one of the "best" study sessions ever, sitting on the motel room balcony looking out upon "GOD'S" creation, in a beach sunset! Small simple things like this move me emotionally while reflecting upon "what" a Mighty Great God we have while observing his creation. Nothing man-made will ever compare!
The study of the Enfield Revolver was greatly enjoyed on this past, relaxing trip, I was able to get away with my best friend, to a special place made by GOD for our enjoyment. Study, the reflection of the material that I read, sipping a cold adult beverage, and praising GOD for His might, His perfection, and the many blessings HE has given me, like my British made Enfield No. 2 MK I* Revolvers! Another favorite Enfield story of mine. I hope it pleases my friends very much!
David
David, your stories are great!!! Glad to see a fellow former peace officer, as they used to call us, enjoying what he loves. I have a friend who used to teach with me here in WV, who lives a few miles north of Panama City. He just recently sold his other FL house in a little beach town called Navarre. Nice part of "Lower Alabama". I have enjoyed a number of trips to stay with him since he retired and moved there permanently.
Texas Star
US Veteran
Les-
I recall very well that textbook publishers have a lot in common with the pharmacy business.
I had to sell several guns to buy textbooks when GI Bill checks arrived late and college had begun and I needed books. I'm still very bitter about that. One of those guns was a very nice Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Another was a S&W MK II .455 that would now be worth over a thousand dollars in that condition.
My daughter is now older than in the example that I gave and has her Master's Degree (with high honor) and is teaching. She, too, and her brother had to find money for those overpriced textbooks. Grants and scholarships helped a lot. And her brother had the GI Education Bill to help, as I did.
My SIL is not a veteran and didn't have that advantage. He was especially unhappy with book prices. My DIL hasn't mentioned what she paid for books, but she is a scientist in a specialized biological field, and I bet it was a bunch. Her dad is a professor, but not in that field, so no free books.
Textbook cost and the pharmacy industry are American scandals.
It amazes me that some gun and hunting books that originally sold for prices like $6.95 are now worth so much. And I'm sure that copies of the Gutenberg Bible were once much cheaper!
Last edited:
Texas Star
US Veteran
Tim--
Possibly, but the odds are that it was a .32 or .380. Even if a .22, which I think Boothroyd used in the film seen in a link here, it wasn't a .25, and Bond's Beretta .25 would be much smaller than a M-948.
I do know the 948. I have the Beretta books by Wilson and by Held & Morin and by Wood and am on the Beretta board.
BTW, a topic on that board showed which Beretta .22 the Mossad used. It was a fixed sight version of the M-71.They even showed pages from an Israeli manual about it, in Hebrew. To me, it may as well have been Greek, but was interesting to see.
Look carefully at that gun scene in, "Dr. No." Look at the Beretta as it was handled and moved. It seems to me to be the weight of a steel .380 M-34, not the lighter weight of the M-948, which normally had a light alloy frame.
Wartime captures alone would have had many more M-34 and M-35 Berettas in the UK when the film was made. But there's some chance it was a M-948. The only people who'd know are probably now dead. I doubt if Connery has any idea, nor would the producers, unless they know guns a LOT better than most film people do.
Bond gave the PPK box to Miss Moneypenney as he left the office. I hope she didn't throw it in the trash. In real life, I guess she'd have called Maj. B. to come get it and he'd have stored it in the armory.
BTW, I liked Mary Goodnight better than I did Moneypenney. She was played by a Swedish actress who was married at different times to both Peter Sellers and to Rod Stewart. She published an autobiography, "True Britt", which I recommend if you can find a copy. She is, of course, Britt Ekland. (Bond girl Maud Adams is also a Swede, despite her British sounding name.)
Last edited:
Texas Star:
Not only is the gun that Bond hands over to M not a Beretta 25, later in the movie, when he is waiting in the Chinese girls house in the hills for the guy who supposedly analyses the debris from the boat he has what looks like an FN or Browning model 1910 with a silencer (possibly the later model sold in this country as the Browning 1955).
Here's James Bond with "you've had your six"
[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTtavgJXa2Q[/ame]
Best Regards, Les
Not only is the gun that Bond hands over to M not a Beretta 25, later in the movie, when he is waiting in the Chinese girls house in the hills for the guy who supposedly analyses the debris from the boat he has what looks like an FN or Browning model 1910 with a silencer (possibly the later model sold in this country as the Browning 1955).
Here's James Bond with "you've had your six"
[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTtavgJXa2Q[/ame]
Best Regards, Les
Last edited:
David, Texas Star, other posters on this thread:
Well, I just had to see what the excitement is all about. On a whim, I bid on this Enfield on Gunbroker this morning between classes, and just found out that I bought it. Talk about impulse buying.... Well, obviously I haven't seen the actual gun yet, bit here is a photo supplied by the seller:
I'll keep you guys posted about the results. I'm still waiting on "The Handgun", and the Enfield book, so will have some fun researching, as well as doing shooting tests when everything comes in.
Well, I just had to see what the excitement is all about. On a whim, I bid on this Enfield on Gunbroker this morning between classes, and just found out that I bought it. Talk about impulse buying.... Well, obviously I haven't seen the actual gun yet, bit here is a photo supplied by the seller:
I'll keep you guys posted about the results. I'm still waiting on "The Handgun", and the Enfield book, so will have some fun researching, as well as doing shooting tests when everything comes in.
Last edited:
Les, it's not a whim. You're sick. Please, do not start looking at Enfield rifles in your present condition.
Nicely done!
Nicely done!
Oh Les! Great, great catch fine sir! Now when that Enfield literature you ordered comes in, you may find yourself and new-to-you .380/200 No. 2 MK I* spending a lot of time together.
Les, congratulations on your Enfield. Please give us the data when convenient fine sir. A great day this is for you!
David
Les, congratulations on your Enfield. Please give us the data when convenient fine sir. A great day this is for you!
David
Texas Star
US Veteran
Les-
Yes, that's a Browning M-1910 that Bond used the silencer on. I spotted that in the theater when that was a newly released movie. I think I also recall seeing a Walther PP in one scene in lieu of the correct PPK. The prop department had shortages or was careless. Look at the analyst's gun that let him "have your six" and which was identified as an S&W. It's a Colt Govt Model.
I think in the book the black assassins who killed Cdr. Strangways and his secretary did use silenced .45 autos.
If the movie had trouble getting a silenced S&W (revolvers other than the Nagant can't easily be silenced), they need only have written the script to reflect that it was a Colt and had fired seven or eight shots. That was just careless.
In the book, Dr . No's men had .30 US carbines and S&W .38 revolvers, " the usual model". Fleming didn't know S&W models well, but he clearly had the M&P/Model 10 in mind. He'd have seen them in WWII. Could be Victory models (the book was published in 1958) or may have been commercial guns. The reader is free to visualize whichever version he prefers.
Our Dutch member, Theur, also mentioned that M-1910 Browning in this thread. BTW, does everyone here understand his board name? So many here know only about S&W that they may not catch that Colt association.
That Enfield .38 that you bought looks pretty rough. Did you just buy it to get a low price? I'd have held out for a better one, preferably with the earlier grips and the selective DA action. But let us know how it shoots ...at very close range! In one edition of his famous, "Small Arms of the World", W.H.B. Smith referred to the DA pull by saying, "And brother, we mean PULL!" But some are probably better than others in that regard. And the Buffalo Bore .38 S&W ammo should prove effective on snakes and small game and on most humans at close range. If you try it and the 125 grain lead SWC bullet shoots to the sights, let us know.
Yes, that's a Browning M-1910 that Bond used the silencer on. I spotted that in the theater when that was a newly released movie. I think I also recall seeing a Walther PP in one scene in lieu of the correct PPK. The prop department had shortages or was careless. Look at the analyst's gun that let him "have your six" and which was identified as an S&W. It's a Colt Govt Model.
I think in the book the black assassins who killed Cdr. Strangways and his secretary did use silenced .45 autos.
If the movie had trouble getting a silenced S&W (revolvers other than the Nagant can't easily be silenced), they need only have written the script to reflect that it was a Colt and had fired seven or eight shots. That was just careless.
In the book, Dr . No's men had .30 US carbines and S&W .38 revolvers, " the usual model". Fleming didn't know S&W models well, but he clearly had the M&P/Model 10 in mind. He'd have seen them in WWII. Could be Victory models (the book was published in 1958) or may have been commercial guns. The reader is free to visualize whichever version he prefers.
Our Dutch member, Theur, also mentioned that M-1910 Browning in this thread. BTW, does everyone here understand his board name? So many here know only about S&W that they may not catch that Colt association.
That Enfield .38 that you bought looks pretty rough. Did you just buy it to get a low price? I'd have held out for a better one, preferably with the earlier grips and the selective DA action. But let us know how it shoots ...at very close range! In one edition of his famous, "Small Arms of the World", W.H.B. Smith referred to the DA pull by saying, "And brother, we mean PULL!" But some are probably better than others in that regard. And the Buffalo Bore .38 S&W ammo should prove effective on snakes and small game and on most humans at close range. If you try it and the 125 grain lead SWC bullet shoots to the sights, let us know.
Last edited:
David, Texas Star, other posters on this thread:
Well, I just had to see what the excitement is all about. On a whim, I bid on this Enfield on Gunbroker this morning between classes, and just found out that I bought it. Talk about impulse buying.... Well, obviously I haven't seen the actual gun yet, bit here is a photo supplied by the seller:
I'll keep you guys posted about the results. I'm still waiting on "The Handgun", and the Enfield book, so will have some fun researching, as well as doing shooting tests when everything comes in.
Les, for myself, I found all the "markings" found about an Enfield No. 2 a fascinating case study! The book by Stamps/Skennerton covers that in close detail with photos for thick-headed fellas, like me, to better understand. The brass disc on the grip was a mystery to me until I got my hands on that same detailed book. Any and everything about the Enfield has grabbed my interest since acquiring my first No. 2. The books you've got ordered will only make your interest grow. Thanks again Texas and Les! You guys have got my interest fire stoked again!
David
Texas Star
US Veteran
Can you believe that the British Army issued just 12 rounds per soldier armed with a revolver? That's for WWII; I don't know about earlier conflicts.
This seems to be confirmed in a book called, The Golden Carpet, about the war in the Middle East. Service model .38's were mentioned several times, probably Enfields as no brand was noted. The author was a member of Parliament, but serving as an officer. He borrowed some ammo from his general before a battle, due to difficulty in getting ammo through supply channels. The general wore a different gun, type not stated, so had no urgent need for his ration of .38 cartridges.
But in, The Brazen Chariots, the author seems not to have had trouble getting replacement ammo, as he sometimes fired his .38 at Germans from the turret hatch as his tank ran through them. Maybe he was scrounging ammo from British dead and severely wounded, who were being evacuated to hospitals. ?? One officer whose book I read said that he led his troops into battle at El Alamein with just nine cartridges for his .38!
Commando units seem to have gotten more ammo, as did paratroopers and others especially likely to use their handguns and who received extensive training with them.
This seems to be confirmed in a book called, The Golden Carpet, about the war in the Middle East. Service model .38's were mentioned several times, probably Enfields as no brand was noted. The author was a member of Parliament, but serving as an officer. He borrowed some ammo from his general before a battle, due to difficulty in getting ammo through supply channels. The general wore a different gun, type not stated, so had no urgent need for his ration of .38 cartridges.
But in, The Brazen Chariots, the author seems not to have had trouble getting replacement ammo, as he sometimes fired his .38 at Germans from the turret hatch as his tank ran through them. Maybe he was scrounging ammo from British dead and severely wounded, who were being evacuated to hospitals. ?? One officer whose book I read said that he led his troops into battle at El Alamein with just nine cartridges for his .38!
Commando units seem to have gotten more ammo, as did paratroopers and others especially likely to use their handguns and who received extensive training with them.
David and Texas and others, I have an update on the local self defense shooting:check out my updated thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...s-self-home-invasion-updated-4-22-2016-a.html
Best Regards, Les
Best Regards, Les
Wel, David, Texas Star, and all the other Enfield/Webley fans, here's an update. I received the little Webley book yesterday. Today I received the Stamps/Skennerton book that David recommended. Very nice little book. Hard bound, sewn in signatures, so the pages won't be falling out when the glue dries up. I'm a book collector too, so little details like that are important. Of course, the content is the most important part. So far I love it. It's a technical history type narrative, but well written, reads as easy as a novel. I know it's reference material, but my usual approach on a small reference like this is to just read through like I would a novel, then go back and focus on areas that are of further interest, then to keep in my shelves for further reference. Just finished about the first 40 pages out of 125.
David: My Enfield, according to UPS, left Baton Rouge yesterday at about 4:11 PM. Remember, I only won the auction at about 11:00 yesterday morning, so this was exceptional service by the seller. It has now traveled to New Orleans, and from there to Montgomery, AL, and from the it has went to Doraville, GA, where it will continue its journey anon. I love tracking numbers. Expected arrival here is Tuesday, April 26th, 2016.
I'm still waiting on the big "The Handgun" book. But at Texas' recommendation, I consulted with my three older copies of "Small Arms of the World". Just doing my homework!!! When it comes to Enfields, you guys are the professors, and I am the student!!!
Texas: yes, the Enfield that I bought does look a little rough, but the bore looked shiny, and I didn't want to invest too much on my first venture. Thought I'd see what they were like, and then keep an eye out for a better condition specimen after I learn a little more about them. Oh, yes, I've seen a few of the little Colt derringers that I believe were associated with, and perhaps named after Theur. I almost bought an original up at our Cabela's once, but was able to restrain myself. I do collect some Colts, mostly revolvers. My oldest is one of the 38 Colt chambered 1877 Lightning models, in perfect working condition. I also have a small collection of Colt revolvers and automatics, I'm not sure how many, 15 or 20, I guess. I'll have to get them together for a family portrait someday. You have already seen my 38 super Colt Commander, and maybe (posted on another thread yesterday) my Army Special. Also posted recently was my 1917 New Service Colt. Well, enough thread drift....
Best regards, Les
David: My Enfield, according to UPS, left Baton Rouge yesterday at about 4:11 PM. Remember, I only won the auction at about 11:00 yesterday morning, so this was exceptional service by the seller. It has now traveled to New Orleans, and from there to Montgomery, AL, and from the it has went to Doraville, GA, where it will continue its journey anon. I love tracking numbers. Expected arrival here is Tuesday, April 26th, 2016.
I'm still waiting on the big "The Handgun" book. But at Texas' recommendation, I consulted with my three older copies of "Small Arms of the World". Just doing my homework!!! When it comes to Enfields, you guys are the professors, and I am the student!!!
Texas: yes, the Enfield that I bought does look a little rough, but the bore looked shiny, and I didn't want to invest too much on my first venture. Thought I'd see what they were like, and then keep an eye out for a better condition specimen after I learn a little more about them. Oh, yes, I've seen a few of the little Colt derringers that I believe were associated with, and perhaps named after Theur. I almost bought an original up at our Cabela's once, but was able to restrain myself. I do collect some Colts, mostly revolvers. My oldest is one of the 38 Colt chambered 1877 Lightning models, in perfect working condition. I also have a small collection of Colt revolvers and automatics, I'm not sure how many, 15 or 20, I guess. I'll have to get them together for a family portrait someday. You have already seen my 38 super Colt Commander, and maybe (posted on another thread yesterday) my Army Special. Also posted recently was my 1917 New Service Colt. Well, enough thread drift....
Best regards, Les
Last edited:
Les, glad to hear about the Stamps/Skennerton Book arriving. Mine is the paperback and was purchased not long after its first publication date in paperback. I must invest in the hardback version, like yours, because of the written notes/high-lighted paragraphs and such. I also recorded the serial numbers of my Enfields in it and added a few pages of additional Enfield data to it. A student of Enfield history here!
Texas, the Handgun book arrived yesterday afternoon. Everything you said, it was! It covers "all" the handguns I find interesting and is loaded down with data that I've never read before!
Texas, in reference to your previous post about "limited" .380 ammo availability, you are dead on. In the Enfield book, the author mentions a Armourer Sgt. that makes this statement in regards to .380 ammo for practice;
"TWO ROUNDS PER MAN PER YEAR PERHAPS!"
Texas/Les, thanks for the great posts. Les, I wish your Enfield a "speedy" arrival for your inspection.
David
Texas, the Handgun book arrived yesterday afternoon. Everything you said, it was! It covers "all" the handguns I find interesting and is loaded down with data that I've never read before!
Texas, in reference to your previous post about "limited" .380 ammo availability, you are dead on. In the Enfield book, the author mentions a Armourer Sgt. that makes this statement in regards to .380 ammo for practice;
"TWO ROUNDS PER MAN PER YEAR PERHAPS!"
Texas/Les, thanks for the great posts. Les, I wish your Enfield a "speedy" arrival for your inspection.
David
Well, Tex & guys. I got the Boothroyd book from the library. It is a book from the day when books were heavy. Thumbed through it and found my Webley Mark III in a six inch version right away. I too found it full of most interesting info.
By the time it goes back to the library I'll have my own though. I just spent some money at Abe's.
I popped for the first edition American. It's kinda BS as a real first edition would be British. Anyway it's in VG shape, including the dust cover, and that's what I like.
By the time it goes back to the library I'll have my own though. I just spent some money at Abe's.
I popped for the first edition American. It's kinda BS as a real first edition would be British. Anyway it's in VG shape, including the dust cover, and that's what I like.
Enfield starred in movie last night!
Couldn't stand it no longer. With all the interesting Enfield and Webley posts I put the 1965 movie, "Flight of the Phoenix" video in the player and re-watched a great movie with some great stars playing in it. Of course, a small portion of my interest was in the lone Enfield No. 2 Revolver. Two of the crash survivors were British soldiers, one an officer, and this is where the Enfield came from. There was a closeup of this same Enfield-in-action as the pilot, played by Jimmy Stewart, dispatched a lame camel with it. He (Stewart) put six-rounds of .380 into the animal, sort of a rebuttal against the murderous Arabs, that had killed two of the surviving passengers from the plane crash. The Arabs left the camel , after murdering/torturing the two passengers, behind because of its bad leg. A movie without political correctness as the 2004 remake of this movie, has Asian Nomads in Africa. Didn't want to offend the poor Muslim Arabs that are oppressing the West, and have been doing so for years! Anyway, I love the movie with the Enfield as a major co-star. It appeared to be a No. 2 MK I* Model very similar to the one my friend "Les" has bought. Thanks again all!
David
Couldn't stand it no longer. With all the interesting Enfield and Webley posts I put the 1965 movie, "Flight of the Phoenix" video in the player and re-watched a great movie with some great stars playing in it. Of course, a small portion of my interest was in the lone Enfield No. 2 Revolver. Two of the crash survivors were British soldiers, one an officer, and this is where the Enfield came from. There was a closeup of this same Enfield-in-action as the pilot, played by Jimmy Stewart, dispatched a lame camel with it. He (Stewart) put six-rounds of .380 into the animal, sort of a rebuttal against the murderous Arabs, that had killed two of the surviving passengers from the plane crash. The Arabs left the camel , after murdering/torturing the two passengers, behind because of its bad leg. A movie without political correctness as the 2004 remake of this movie, has Asian Nomads in Africa. Didn't want to offend the poor Muslim Arabs that are oppressing the West, and have been doing so for years! Anyway, I love the movie with the Enfield as a major co-star. It appeared to be a No. 2 MK I* Model very similar to the one my friend "Les" has bought. Thanks again all!
David
The markings about the Enfield Revolver are numerous. The book on Enfield No. 2 Revolver by Stamps/Skennerton has a chapter specifically on this subject. There is one marking that I have just a vague notion on its meaning. The marking I'm speaking of is common to the Enfield. It is located on the left-side of the barrel and is this;
*38" 767
3.5 TONS
Could someone give me a clear explanation on the 767 and what the 3.5 TONS means?
This subject matter is super-interesting to me and Les, I think you're gonna have a great time with your new Enfield and great book on the same.
David
*38" 767
3.5 TONS
Could someone give me a clear explanation on the 767 and what the 3.5 TONS means?
This subject matter is super-interesting to me and Les, I think you're gonna have a great time with your new Enfield and great book on the same.
David
I think that the 3.5 Tons refers to the "proof" it has had a proof cartrige fired through it which generated 3.5 tons of pressure per square inch, or 7,000 pounds per square inch. My Webley MK VI has a similar mark which has the poundage followed by a little picture of a square, followed by the " mark. It also has the opposing Broad Arrows, indicating that it has been released from Crown Service. This is mentioned briefly on page 115 of my copy of Stamps-Skennerton. It says that this is a post release commercial Nitro Proof Mark applied before commercial sale or export.
Here is a picture of the (BNP = Birmingham Nitro Proof) proof marks on my Webley MK VI:
7:39 pm, 4/24/2016 - I corrected an error in the above posting. London and Birmingham have different prefixes to the proof poundage: in this photo, we are seeing the BNP, or Birmingham Mark.
Here is a picture of the (BNP = Birmingham Nitro Proof) proof marks on my Webley MK VI:
7:39 pm, 4/24/2016 - I corrected an error in the above posting. London and Birmingham have different prefixes to the proof poundage: in this photo, we are seeing the BNP, or Birmingham Mark.
Last edited:
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
