4" Model 19 at 100 yards today
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You get used to distances if you ever get a chance to shoot IHMSA Silhouette. The distances are (from my old memory) 77 meters (chickens), 100 meters (pigs), 150 meters (turkeys), and 200 meters (rams). This is all with iron sights, and steel animals must be knocked off their stands to score. This is either a freestyle or standing positions, no bench rest.
Not with a revolver, but with a 1911 in 45 when our Tues evening group was at the range, one of the guys brought a bunch of black balloons someone had put in their desk to commemorate a birthday. All were about 4-5". He tacked up several of them at the 100 yard target and a few were shot with rifles. I took 1 shot with my 1911 and broke one. They all said lucky shot. I then broke 5 with the next 6 shots to empty the magazine. I'm not sure I could still do that, I don't practice near as much as I did back then.
Not with a revolver, but with a 1911 in 45 when our Tues evening group was at the range, one of the guys brought a bunch of black balloons someone had put in their desk to commemorate a birthday. All were about 4-5". He tacked up several of them at the 100 yard target and a few were shot with rifles. I took 1 shot with my 1911 and broke one. They all said lucky shot. I then broke 5 with the next 6 shots to empty the magazine. I'm not sure I could still do that, I don't practice near as much as I did back then.
Art Doc
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Reread. Don't see anything different. Shot a Model 10 at 100 yards and had 5 in a 6" bullseye and the other close so sounds like at least a 6" group (if not better). Said everyone could clearly see the holes in the target. What did I get wrong?
lawandorder
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"Everyone opined that I had probably missed, as they couldn't see the bullet holes in the target without optics."
and he said a model 19, w/adjustable sights
No biggie, my mind plays tricks on me all the time but I am an Old F.
and he said a model 19, w/adjustable sights
No biggie, my mind plays tricks on me all the time but I am an Old F.
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Thanks for all the replies gents.
As it happened, I was using 38 Special loads that I made myself with a home cast 158gr bullet and 3.3 grains of Promo (Red Dot clone). The bullet is powder coated (by me) and comes from a Lee mold. The primers are S&B. It's a cheap plinking load that seems to shoot well out of this gun and I load them by the thousands for casual practice. It is my go to load for double action work as recoil is mild.
While my accuracy may not have degraded much in the last 20+ years, my speed sure has. I used to shoot a lot of IPSC/USPSA/IDPA matches and I was pretty "quick on the draw". We played with a shot timer for a while yesterday, draw and shoot, draw and shoot 5 rounds, etc. DAMN I have lost some time on my draw and shoot. I was always in the running at my local matches every week or month, anymore, I'd be in the middle third of the pack. Sucks to get older I guess.
SaxonPig,
Not that it matters, but I was shooting a 4" MODEL 19 357 mag (albeit with 38 Special ammo), but I could probably do as well with my model 10 heavy barre, although the adjustable sights on the 19 are more friendly to my eyes. No one could see the bullets holes (without binoculars) until we walked down range.
TRE
As it happened, I was using 38 Special loads that I made myself with a home cast 158gr bullet and 3.3 grains of Promo (Red Dot clone). The bullet is powder coated (by me) and comes from a Lee mold. The primers are S&B. It's a cheap plinking load that seems to shoot well out of this gun and I load them by the thousands for casual practice. It is my go to load for double action work as recoil is mild.
While my accuracy may not have degraded much in the last 20+ years, my speed sure has. I used to shoot a lot of IPSC/USPSA/IDPA matches and I was pretty "quick on the draw". We played with a shot timer for a while yesterday, draw and shoot, draw and shoot 5 rounds, etc. DAMN I have lost some time on my draw and shoot. I was always in the running at my local matches every week or month, anymore, I'd be in the middle third of the pack. Sucks to get older I guess.
SaxonPig,
Not that it matters, but I was shooting a 4" MODEL 19 357 mag (albeit with 38 Special ammo), but I could probably do as well with my model 10 heavy barre, although the adjustable sights on the 19 are more friendly to my eyes. No one could see the bullets holes (without binoculars) until we walked down range.
TRE
My favorite plinking/target load is a 158 gr LSWC on top of 3.2 grains of Red Dot. It gives me 670-675 fps in a 1 7/8" Model 36 OR 2 1/8" Model 60, about 725 fps in my 3" SP 101 or 3" Model 60, about 750 fps in my 4" Model 10 and Service Six, and about 800 fps in my 6" Model 19. Accuracy is excellent and the standard deviation in velocity is in the 10 to 20 fps range (lower in the longer barrels).
BB57---They still have IHMSA meets around Wilmington NC.
The Regionals were there last year...
Also they shoot IHMSA every second Saturday in Patrick SC..
IHMSA beats ANY handgun match ANYWHERE
ESP... These so-called ''Combat Matches'' everybody seems CRAZY for
The Regionals were there last year...
Also they shoot IHMSA every second Saturday in Patrick SC..
IHMSA beats ANY handgun match ANYWHERE
ESP... These so-called ''Combat Matches'' everybody seems CRAZY for
Art Doc
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NOW I SEE IT. A 19 not a 10. Hey, my eyes are just as old as the rest of me, OK?
Still very impressive in my mind. I couldn't shoot a 6" group at 100 yards with ANY handgun.
Still very impressive in my mind. I couldn't shoot a 6" group at 100 yards with ANY handgun.
One of my favorite anecdotes is of the pre-hunting sight-in session when I took about a 1/2"branch off a downed log at about 80 yds. with the first shot out of my Model 13 using a .38 LSWC handload. I simply holstered up silently and turned back to the truck, leaving the youngsters all agape. Doubt I could do it again, but then, I never had to with those guys.
Frank46
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Our old range had a few silouette shooters and occasionally I would find a spot and sit and watch. I was and still am amazed at the accuracy of the handguns that they used. One shooter was simply deadly with his S&W model 29. He was constantly trying different combinations of bullets,powders and primers. But whatever he was doing that 44 magnum did extremely well. Frank
My brother and I both used to shoot IHMSA standing classification with 8-3/8" N frames. His was a 25-5 (late unpinned), mine was a 29-3. Coincidentally, we both used the nearly same load! 8.8 gr. Unique (old Hercules made) with ~250 gr. lead SWCs (452454 and 429421 Lyman molds).
We had worked out our elevations in advance and used automotive feeler gauges as reference between the rear sight and frame. It took a while for the slugs to get out there to 200 meters, but the rams always went down when hit!
Great fun!
We had worked out our elevations in advance and used automotive feeler gauges as reference between the rear sight and frame. It took a while for the slugs to get out there to 200 meters, but the rams always went down when hit!
Great fun!
A good source for long range revolver shooting and history is Ed McGivern's Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting.
SuperMan
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Great shooting at 100 with a 4"...
Long range handgun shooting is a lot of fun. Have been doing it since the 1970s when I had a 29-2 6.5" and a 4" 19... Had a sand pit we shot in with a 4' tall 6" wide concrete post that we would shoot at 200 yards. A hit would make a puff of dust off the post. I did well one day and hit it 5/6 offhand with the 29...
Was lucky enough to hook up with a friend who has a place in very remote Idaho in the same area where Elmer used to shoot. We did a lot of shooting all the way out to 800 yards mostly with .41s and .44s. Had one target on a hillside behind my friend's cabin that was a 3x3' piece of plywood at a lasered 780 yards.
If you do the math, it is like shooting at a 1" square at 25 yards...
Bob
Long range handgun shooting is a lot of fun. Have been doing it since the 1970s when I had a 29-2 6.5" and a 4" 19... Had a sand pit we shot in with a 4' tall 6" wide concrete post that we would shoot at 200 yards. A hit would make a puff of dust off the post. I did well one day and hit it 5/6 offhand with the 29...
Was lucky enough to hook up with a friend who has a place in very remote Idaho in the same area where Elmer used to shoot. We did a lot of shooting all the way out to 800 yards mostly with .41s and .44s. Had one target on a hillside behind my friend's cabin that was a 3x3' piece of plywood at a lasered 780 yards.
If you do the math, it is like shooting at a 1" square at 25 yards...
Bob
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