presspics
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You don't think that APEX may have a reason to say that? They have barrels they need to sell. S&W says that the barrel and frame have been addressed to improve accuracy.. I don't doubt that..
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You don't think that APEX may have a reason to say that? They have barrels they need to sell. S&W says that the barrel and frame have been addressed to improve accuracy.. I don't doubt that..
Arik
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Barrels don't interchange with the old M&P. So unless they already stock piled them I don't think there was any reason other than it being that. Besides they can claim whatever they want if it's false then no one is going to buy their barrels anyway. You think if they made a claim about Wilson Combat being inacu then all of a sudden they'll be selling barrels?
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FWIW, I just bought one from GrabAGun which has the 9mm FDE ambi-safety model listed for $449, plus $8 shipping, no CC surcharge.
The .40 is $439!
An actual honest-to-goodness slide release button?
I don't remember ever seeing such an animal - but I think you're right! I had also surmised - and I'm not too bright and no mechanical engineer - that it might be a decock button kinda-sorta like the old Walther P99 had on the slide ...
Funny thing is - I can't find any reference to it on the Google ... nor any indication as to whether or not the Shield will receive a similar treatment...
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So what is the actual benefit of a full length guide rail? Some articles say it recoil less and others say it will improve accuracy. The m&p is already one of the lowest recoil in handguns on the market except maybe a heavy sp-01 or a rotating barrel px4.
Polymer guns flex in recoil, some more than others. To an extent, flexing reduces recoil, but too much flex gives a bad recoil impulse. And a polymer frame that flexes a lot has the potential for innaccuracy and faster wear.
Stiffening the front end has apparently helped slightly reduce recoil as shown in one of the new videos (American Guns?). A stiffer frame could also contribute to increased accuracy.
I made the mistake of resting the dust cover of my V1 FS M&P 9 on a sandbag for accuracy testing. The softness of the dust cover threw shots away from the bull and gave me large groups. I then rested the gun on the trigger guard and with a very solid bottom rear grip rest and produced on target small groups. Flex in the dust cover is not a great thing.
I like how a plastic gun.......
I like how a polymer gun is now improved by the addition of a steel skeleton. I thought steel pistols were supposed to be improved by the addition of polymer??? Make up your mind, already.
I like how a polymer gun is now improved by the addition of a steel skeleton. I thought steel pistols were supposed to be improved by the addition of polymer??? Make up your mind, already.
I doubt it. I don't see how it could make the slide stop drop, especially when pressing the stop downward (when adjusted) will do the job just fine.
I have not seen any discussion of it either, but my guess is it might be a guide/support for the rather long arm of the stop to keep it from flexing. I would not be surprised to find one on the opposite side of the gun too, but I have yet to find a photo of the right side.
I guess we'll know soon enough as the actual guns are purchased and examined.
I like how a polymer gun is now improved by the addition of a steel skeleton. I thought steel pistols were supposed to be improved by the addition of polymer??? Make up your mind, already.
Polymer makes the gun lighter for carry. It is much cheaper to manufacture. It is easier and cheaper to configure with grip panels and stippling. It is generally more comfortable to hang onto than metal.
None of these attributes equate to a gun with a polymer frame being better than an all metal gun. They are just different and have different uses.
Stiffening the polymer dust cover with a metal skeleton doesn't confuse me at all.
if they are just dust covers why do they need to be reinforced, perhaps the metal at front helps to keep the gun more balanced during the recoil? I think the smith polymer frame is very though at least compared with a glock frame those are really flimsy.
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Looking at it, and I do not know because I have not seen a real good picture of it yet. But it looks like it has a LCI on top of the slide. If it does I will not be interested in one. Saw one video and nothing was said about it so I do not know if the black bar on top of the slide is an LCI or not Anyone know what that is ?
yes some has the LCI not sure which ones exactly but not interested either had a bunch of Springfield's already and hate it.
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The LCI could be a Calif version.
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The devil is in the details. How much more accurate can the M&P get? It's already capable of being more accurate than anyone will be shooting them. Apex barrels increase accuracy marginally. The new M&P 2.0 will increase accuracy marginally. The New Apex 2.0 barrels coming to a dealer near you someday will increase the accuracy of the M&P 2.0 marginally. The rest is just market speak. Unless you have a poorly fitted barrel it's all just bragging rights.
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The windows/cutouts, above the light rail are cosmetic, but the serial number is in one of them.
The slide stop on the right side, can be seen in the video and it looks just like the current slide stop, no bar next to it. S&W says the little bar in front of the slide stop, on the left, is part of the slide stop. Said "It helps to prevent the slide from going auto forward."
The increase steel frame is supposed to stiffen it up, and reduce felt recoil...the review video I saw the guy said it did just that...FWIW.
The slide stop on the right side, can be seen in the video and it looks just like the current slide stop, no bar next to it. S&W says the little bar in front of the slide stop, on the left, is part of the slide stop. Said "It helps to prevent the slide from going auto forward."
The increase steel frame is supposed to stiffen it up, and reduce felt recoil...the review video I saw the guy said it did just that...FWIW.
