It's official the M2.0 is here!!

[Granite Stater]

On S&Ws site you can click on state compliant models. They aren't there. I called and asked about the Shield 45 a bit ago and she said it's because of the trigger. At that time they had no intentions of making a MA specific one.

Ah, I forgot about the MA requirement for 10lb trigger (one reason to purchase DA/SA in MA.) Maybe the won't offer a M2.0 because of the 10lb requirement.

 

[CB3]

Simple spring substitutions will get the trigger pull to 10#. They probably even have the springs already because they are likely to be the same as for the first model.

It's just a PITA to have the springs made, inventoried, installed in small planned runs, have the guns available but not selling, and the guns tracked and distributed only to a narrow market. That's extra cost.

Again, it may be mechanically easy to meet a few people's desire for a special, low volume gun, but it's not a good business decision.

 

[Rick_A]

I've handled a few in person and do liek 'em. The trigger has gone from terrible to acceptable and the new grip texture is grippy without being too aggressive. The new M-Large backstrap fits my large hands perfectly where the previous three did not suit.

I'd have to try one out at the range. My VP9 is pretty good. I have my doubts a S&W can shoot that accurately out of the box. While it may not mean much in practical terms, guns that don't shoot really well tend to not interest me.

One thing that I find annoying is how most of the manufacturers will update their line every few years...enough to eventually obsolete older versions. I keep my stuff forever, so I'm not a huge fan of the practice.

Overall with this one it's all positives. It appears the 5" guns have the loaded chamber indicator and the 4.25" guns use the witness hole.

The slide stop detent seems like an unnecessary feature, but I'm pretty neutral on it's implementation.

 

[Canuck44]

Eh. I have no interest in the M&P. And being a new gun ill spend my $449 somewhere else and let others do the beta testing.

Also, reading on another forum, Apex said their accuracy is about the same as the M&P 1.0

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Jeez on another forum someone said Apex said accuracy was the same. I don't suppose Apex, who sells replacement barrels, has any interest in suggesting the gun will shoot better than most can hold. I might just chalk your post up to rumour has it status.

Take Care

Bob

 

[Arik]

Jeez on another forum someone said Apex said accuracy was the same. I don't suppose Apex, who sells replacement barrels, has any interest in suggesting the gun will shoot better than most can hold. I might just chalk your post up to rumour has it status.

Take Care

Bob

So they say it and the gun will listen? Because that's the only way it would work. Otherwise the buyer shoots it and sees that it's not the case. Typically how it works. Buy a gun, shoot it and THEN see if it needs anything

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[Canuck44]

I have seen them on Gunbroker now.

Are the 4.25" new 2.0 M&Ps the same size in barrel length as the old full size M&Ps?

Trying to decide if a new 2.0 is worth replacing my old M&P.[/QUOT

Do you really think the 4.25" barrel FS ver 2 barrel could be any longer than the 4.25" barreled FS original? Really?

Take Care

Bob

 

[Canuck44]

I'm not seeing the 5" in anything but FDE and w/thumb safety. I'd like to have the longer barrel for sight radius, but not a fan of FDE and it seems like the safety might be in the way for me. Looking back, it doesn't seem like the 5", blue, no safety has ever been an option. Even in 1.0.

I have the 5" Pro in Blue with no safety. They have been making the Pro 5" in Blue right from the start without a manual safety.

Take Care

Bob

 

[Targets Guy]

I held the FDE today at my LGS. Very nice. Loved the roughness of the grips. It felt just a touch heavier than my SR1911 9mm but that might be a plus.

Definitely on my watch list.

 

[dpsk]

I held the FDE today at my LGS. Very nice. Loved the roughness of the grips. It felt just a touch heavier than my SR1911 9mm but that might be a plus.

Definitely on my watch list.

I was able to check one out at my gun club today. Overall, it's still an M&P (which is a good thing). The trigger "feels" the same as the current pro model to me - which I feel is the same as my Wife's -9C. I'm not blown away by the trigger, but it'll certainly suffice - unless or until you install an Apex trigger, which would be an improvement. The grip texturing is EXTREMELY AGRESSIVE!!! Absolutely the most aggressive I've ever felt on a stock pistol. It'll certainly be a winner for those who like to add the sand paper texture Talon grips. However, I think it's probably too aggressive for most new shooters or the casual shooter. I certainly wouldn't want to wear one IWB against bare skin. If I were to buy one I'd take to it with some fine grit sand paper to smooth it out a bit. However - to each their own, as grip texturing is CERTAINLY a personal thing. Overall I think it'll be successful for S&W.

 

[FortyFiveAuto]

Looks like they turned the M&P into the FNS!

 

[Fir3hawk]

Appologies if this has been discussed but is the FDE model only in a 5" barrel with a safety? I'd be interested in buying one with a 4.25" barrel and no safety but it looks like my only option is black.

Is it worth the upgrade? I have a standard M&P .40 fullsize that I'd most likely sell if I bought one, but I have to be picky since I certainly don't "need" it


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[CB3]

If the variety of original models is any indication, you can expect to get almost any configuration you want, that is, when S&W has had time to manufacture them and get them to distributors. They had to start somewhere, and these few models are it for the next few weeks. A year from now you will likely see these improvements on all the full size models you want, and probably the compact and Shield models too.

 

[Lima26]

Gun porn

 

[Mahalo_.32]

I have watched every review on the new 2.0 i like what i hear and see. As i have stated in the past S&W is really diggin in and making their spot in the competitive field, Hopefully they keep their prices appropriate. To the guy that said he wouldnt buy an M&P my question is why even reply?

 

[spirit4earth]

Does it make sense to NOT buy a 9c and wait for the compact 2.0 version? I might not want to wait too long. Will the original M&Ps be discontinued?

 

[JohnSW]

This pistol doesn't have GRIP ZONE printed on it, so I would just get confused if I bought it.

 

[CoMF]

Looks interesting. The new aggressive grip texture and the greater customization via the interchangeable backstraps will be big selling points.

The hand-wringing I've witnessed on other forums over the M&P's accuracy has me shaking my head, though. Are we seriously expecting match grade mechanical accuracy from a $450-$500 pistol?

I look at it this way: If that M&P can place all its shots in the area of a pie plate at typical engagement distances without sacrificing reliability, what exactly is gained by tightening it up? Are 1" MOA groups at 25 yards really that big of a deal? Is this supposed to be a defensive pistol or a dedicated bullseye gun?

Just something to think about.

 

[OhFourChevy]

I'm holding out for the 5" .45acp version, it'll look really nice next to my Shield 45

 

[mikesal34744]

Appologies if this has been discussed but is the FDE model only in a 5" barrel with a safety? I'd be interested in buying one with a 4.25" barrel and no safety but it looks like my only option is black.

Is it worth the upgrade? I have a standard M&P .40 fullsize that I'd most likely sell if I bought one, but I have to be picky since I certainly don't "need" it


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I bought both and had the FDE safety removed in 10 minutes. S&W is sending me the plugs to fill the space where the safety was

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[spirit4earth]

ugly. they keep up and they'll look like flocks. I hope this means in can get an old one at a great discount price

This is what I'm hoping! Will the originals go on sale?