I'll be getting a .40 myself.
It's official the M2.0 is here!!
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I'll be getting a .40 myself.
The video says they do.
I have two 9s and a 45 that I am very happy with; can't see getting rid of any of them ; I may be adding a 40 also
As soon as the FBI chose 9mm, a lot of shooters that don't like the recoil of .40 had the excuse they needed to switch.
I have wanted a long slide .40, and this is probably it.
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The 2.0 should be ok, is it because it's not listed on the infamous AG list?
Seems like your gripe should be with your politicians, not S&W.
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In some of the pictures I've seen, both in online reviews and market place; It looks like the 5" barrel version (In the FDE) has a loaded chamber indicator, "Shark Fin" similar to the CA compliant M&P's. Is this on all the 5''barrels?
Bought the 5" FDE from Sportsman Outdoor.....$459, no tax, free shipping, no cc fee and a $15 ffl fee. Hopefully it gets here next week. Fondled it at Academy and absolutely love the grip on this new model.
Need to find a good Kydex owb holster for it.
Need to find a good Kydex owb holster for it.
On S&Ws site you can click on state compliant models. They aren't there. I called and asked about the Shield 45 a bit ago and she said it's because of the trigger. At that time they had no intentions of making a MA specific one.
Yes, they suck too. BUT being that there are S&W models available in MA, and they are made in MA, and they come out with new models, I feel they should do a few runs of MA compliant versions. If they are doing a run of a few thousand, how hard would it be to do 5-10% of them with a MA compliant trigger?
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They need to get approval from the totalitarian states before they can sell them there and we know how slowly the oppressive regimes are to adopt changes.
MA Compliant
S&W has to fill their distribution pipeline with their most popular, in demand models. This is a financial decision.
The next level will be the next top sellers--probably Pro models, perhaps a CORE, models with lasers, etc.
In the whole scheme of things, the amount of profit available from MA compliant sales is very small compared to other models that sell better. I bet it will happen, probably months from now.
I can pretty well guarantee S&W feels no obligation to produce low volume models for the restrictive political shenanigans that go on in the various states, including (especially) their home manufacturing state. Nothing personal. It's just business.
S&W has to fill their distribution pipeline with their most popular, in demand models. This is a financial decision.
The next level will be the next top sellers--probably Pro models, perhaps a CORE, models with lasers, etc.
In the whole scheme of things, the amount of profit available from MA compliant sales is very small compared to other models that sell better. I bet it will happen, probably months from now.
I can pretty well guarantee S&W feels no obligation to produce low volume models for the restrictive political shenanigans that go on in the various states, including (especially) their home manufacturing state. Nothing personal. It's just business.
Agree. Love the grip. Don't have to buy a talon grip for this one.
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Yes. I was debating between a Glock 19, Glock 17, and M2.0 and ultimately went with another M&P because I already have mags. Less up front cost, plus not having to spend $$$ on extra mags sold me. Maybe the Glock 19 next month, who knows?
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Ah, I forgot about the MA requirement for 10lb trigger (one reason to purchase DA/SA in MA.) Maybe the won't offer a M2.0 because of the 10lb requirement.
Simple spring substitutions will get the trigger pull to 10#. They probably even have the springs already because they are likely to be the same as for the first model.
It's just a PITA to have the springs made, inventoried, installed in small planned runs, have the guns available but not selling, and the guns tracked and distributed only to a narrow market. That's extra cost.
Again, it may be mechanically easy to meet a few people's desire for a special, low volume gun, but it's not a good business decision.
It's just a PITA to have the springs made, inventoried, installed in small planned runs, have the guns available but not selling, and the guns tracked and distributed only to a narrow market. That's extra cost.
Again, it may be mechanically easy to meet a few people's desire for a special, low volume gun, but it's not a good business decision.
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I've handled a few in person and do liek 'em. The trigger has gone from terrible to acceptable and the new grip texture is grippy without being too aggressive. The new M-Large backstrap fits my large hands perfectly where the previous three did not suit.
I'd have to try one out at the range. My VP9 is pretty good. I have my doubts a S&W can shoot that accurately out of the box. While it may not mean much in practical terms, guns that don't shoot really well tend to not interest me.
One thing that I find annoying is how most of the manufacturers will update their line every few years...enough to eventually obsolete older versions. I keep my stuff forever, so I'm not a huge fan of the practice.
Overall with this one it's all positives. It appears the 5" guns have the loaded chamber indicator and the 4.25" guns use the witness hole.
The slide stop detent seems like an unnecessary feature, but I'm pretty neutral on it's implementation.
I'd have to try one out at the range. My VP9 is pretty good. I have my doubts a S&W can shoot that accurately out of the box. While it may not mean much in practical terms, guns that don't shoot really well tend to not interest me.
One thing that I find annoying is how most of the manufacturers will update their line every few years...enough to eventually obsolete older versions. I keep my stuff forever, so I'm not a huge fan of the practice.
Overall with this one it's all positives. It appears the 5" guns have the loaded chamber indicator and the 4.25" guns use the witness hole.
The slide stop detent seems like an unnecessary feature, but I'm pretty neutral on it's implementation.
Jeez on another forum someone said Apex said accuracy was the same. I don't suppose Apex, who sells replacement barrels, has any interest in suggesting the gun will shoot better than most can hold. I might just chalk your post up to rumour has it status.
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Arik
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So they say it and the gun will listen? Because that's the only way it would work. Otherwise the buyer shoots it and sees that it's not the case. Typically how it works. Buy a gun, shoot it and THEN see if it needs anything
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I have the 5" Pro in Blue with no safety. They have been making the Pro 5" in Blue right from the start without a manual safety.
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I held the FDE today at my LGS. Very nice. Loved the roughness of the grips. It felt just a touch heavier than my SR1911 9mm but that might be a plus.
Definitely on my watch list.
Definitely on my watch list.
dpsk
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I was able to check one out at my gun club today. Overall, it's still an M&P (which is a good thing). The trigger "feels" the same as the current pro model to me - which I feel is the same as my Wife's -9C. I'm not blown away by the trigger, but it'll certainly suffice - unless or until you install an Apex trigger, which would be an improvement. The grip texturing is EXTREMELY AGRESSIVE!!! Absolutely the most aggressive I've ever felt on a stock pistol. It'll certainly be a winner for those who like to add the sand paper texture Talon grips. However, I think it's probably too aggressive for most new shooters or the casual shooter. I certainly wouldn't want to wear one IWB against bare skin. If I were to buy one I'd take to it with some fine grit sand paper to smooth it out a bit. However - to each their own, as grip texturing is CERTAINLY a personal thing. Overall I think it'll be successful for S&W.
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Looks like they turned the M&P into the FNS!
