NY HOME POSESSION, RANGE PERMIT

[blindbirddog]

Oldest daughter is going to Syracuse U. for graduate school. Got her a Mossberg 20A but she wants a revolver.

I know of the NY requirements for pistol permits for home and range use.

Does it really take six months to get a permit? Can you take a safety course while the permit process is going forward?

Anyone live in Syracuse? What will it be like for a 27 y.o. girleee living on her own? I told her to use both the scatter gun and then the pistol when she is permitted.

thanks for the info..
Blindbirddog

 

[ladder13]

Some counties in NY may take a year or longer to get permission to own a handgun. Each county has their own rules and procedures, and it's up to the county judge. The exceptions to the rule, NYC and Long Island.
I think the Cuse area may be better than most, I've heard it is.
It ain't pretty.
Lotsa luck.

Edit: you need a safety course before applying

I think members Koz and Hillbilly77 live up that way, they should soon chime in.

 

[jringo8769]

well as a life long NY resident...Pistol Permits take time...6 months is very common where i live...there is no way to rush it either....God Bless,John...what takes the time is the research they do when check you out...

 

[Wise_A]

It depends entirely on the county. Even what process you go through depends on what the judge and sheriff feel like doing.

In Albany Co, you have to appear before the judge to get a pistol permit. And you're not getting a carry. In other counties, it ranges from 6-12 months, contingent on a safety class. Up in Warren County, practically as rural as it gets, you can get a "Hunting and Target" pistol permit, but there's no way you're ever going to get a CCW.

In some counties, in order to buy/transfer, you have to buy the gun, take/mail the receipt to the sheriff's office for an amendment to your pistol permit, wait a while (I've had as little as 2 weeks, as long as a month and a half back in the Bad Old Days), get the amendment in the mail, and bring that back to the FFL.

In other counties nearby, the sheriff's office happily dispenses blank amendments--you buy the gun like normal, and drop off the filled-out amendment on your way home.

I would call around to some shops in the county and find out. Just because Syracuse is north of Suffolk County doesn't mean it doesn't suck out loud.

What I would not do is send the revolver up with her.

Another thing that can come in handy is a junk gun. Some counties require you to have a handgun purchased before you can even apply. So instead of plunking down $800 on a shiny, she can either pick out some $75 barely-working piece of garbage, or you can FFL said worthless piece of garbage to her. That way, while she's waiting on her permit, you guys have only got a cheap token gun sitting in the FFL's safe. When the permit comes through, then you buy/send the one you really want.

 

[apollo99]

I think under much objections from county Sheriffs, the NYS pistol permit situation is about to get a lot better or a lot worse, The NYSP will be taking over the whole operation in 2018. It will be a big Albany run operation. God help the residence of NY. NYC, and the two counties in Long Island excluded. Thank God I escaped from NY to the sunny, free, gun capital of the country Arizona. Land of the free, home of the heavily armed.

 

[Wise_A]

I'm aware of the NYSP plan. All I have to say is: GL trying to condense and consolidate the paper records of 62 counties and umpteen hundred thousand handgun owners, and probably millions of handguns. Especially when said records are frequently for deceased individuals and long-lost guns.

Several counties are comically lax in how they handle things, but the overriding factor is that they are, generally-speaking, overseeing permitting for law-abiding folks. We do have our fringe elements, but they're few and far between.

The bigger issue is that the state wishes to make one rule to govern a big, diverse state. What works in NYC and what voters are willing to support down there, doesn't necessarily work in Saratoga, Washington, or Warren Counties.

So to be honest, I would much rather have the flexibility and deal with the confusion of our current system.

 

[Maddog 521]

That is an "amazing read".

 

[Jeppo]

O U C H ! !

 

[DD357]

What a nightmare!

 

[white cloud]

You New Yorkers need to replace your government.

 

[2152hq]

There is a 'residence requirement' for NYS P/P applicants (or at least there was).
Again it may vary my County. In Monroe Cty (Rochester) the applications stated that the applicant had to be a resident of the County for at least 6mo PRIOR to the date of their application.
..and you must provide 3 additional character references from the State (or other NYS County) you lived previously if you have not been here for at least 3 years. This is in addition to the 4 local references already required. All references signatures notarized.
Current wait here is about 1 yr. They will tell you 6mo, but at 6mo they tell you they're still working on it and it;ll be another 5 or 6.


Here's a link to the Onondaga Cty Sheriffs Pistol Permit Application:
http://sheriff.ongov.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/NYS-Pistol-License-Application-6-7-17.pdf

Read through this baby and you'll be drinking early today.
I'm sure there's differences in fine point rules from other Counties around it but the general application is the same.

Best of Luck to you and your Daughter



added: It used to be that you had to actually buy a handgun first, have the dealer give you a receipt w/the gun description, ser#, ect on it and turn that info in with your application. The dealer hung on to the handgun while the permit application was being processed.
When the permit was issued, it came through with that gun already on it. You then went to the dealer and collected 'your' pistola. The dealer gets a small receipt from the P/P licensing agent (County Clerk) that says it's Ok to release the gun to the permit holder.
That worked OK when permits were issued in a few weeks. But now with months and yr(s) wait,,the dealer doesn't want to keep a decent gun out of rotation.Some demanded paid in full w/no refund on an application gun purchase. Always a chance the permit gets denied.
So many started a 'permit getter' selection as Wise A mentioned. Usually cheap top breaks for under $50 just to apply for the permit on.

Now most (all?) countys allow you to apply with out demanding the up front purchase of a handgun (how nice of them).
Your permit does not expire if there are no pistols on it either, but some put limits on them in total number, number of guns in the same caliber, when and where the pistol can be used and for what purpose, ect.
All depends on what the almighty Judges feel like doing.

 

[jyork08854]

So happy I left the Northeast for the sunny South.

 

[pharmer]

I left NJ almost 40 years ago. I remember the 4 part form to buy a model 19, a separate card for NJOID. I don't even go back to visit. Joe

 

[Camster]

You New Yorkers need to replace your government.

Sure,great advice,unless you're vastly outnumbered by those that want it the way that it is.

 

[Chief Wiggums]

That is an "amazing read".

What an eye opening read.

 

[JLPiccard]

My manager is wanting me to take a promotion that would entail me to move to NYC. I'm really resisting the idea, due to all the nonsense you have to deal with up there with gun licensing.

Given that I currently live in GA, where my permit allows me to carry just about anywhere, that would be a major change.

 

[NYlakesider]

My manager is wanting me to take a promotion that would entail me to move to NYC. I'm really resisting the idea, due to all the nonsense you have to deal with up there with gun licensing.

Given that I currently live in GA, where my permit allows me to carry just about anywhere, that would be a major change.

Simply put you will not get a permit in NYC! PERIOD
Also if you get a permit outside of NYC it is not valid there!

As others have stated counties and many cites administer our convoluted Pistol Permit situation. Many go to their own different drum which in this state as long as they stay inside the very wide parameters of the law can make things very interesting.

 

[Arik]

My manager is wanting me to take a promotion that would entail me to move to NYC. I'm really resisting the idea, due to all the nonsense you have to deal with up there with gun licensing.

Given that I currently live in GA, where my permit allows me to carry just about anywhere, that would be a major change.

Very very very few carry permits in NYC. First there's the matter of the several thousand dollar, none refundable application fee. Then you will be denied. Period, end of story. You're not special, no one is after you!

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[kaaskop49]

re: the above NY situation

This is why I bore people on the Forum by maintaining: "Never say never." If you live in a less restrictive part of the country, you have to remain vigilant about your firearm rights. Here in Nevada, out-of-state instigators pushed for the Universal Background Check amendment last year, which barely passed, but has been held in abeyance by our State Attorney General, bless him.

The antis will never stop.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[Old cop]

I've read a lot about NY and their gun laws and it begs one question: Are they any safer b/c of all this?