Dancing FBI agent in custody

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It will be interesting to see how this comes out of the wash, which I expect to take a year or more as the lawyers do their dances at the courthouse.

Frankly, I do not see anything in media reports that causes me to think that criminal intent was involved in this incident. In my opinion this is purely a matter of negligence, and whether or not that negligence rises to the level of criminal negligence is the issue that must be argued and determined.

There is nothing to indicate that when the young man went out for an evening of entertainment he held, or formed, the intent to injure anyone or cause any damage. Being a law enforcement officer, presumably involved (presently or in the past) in criminal investigations, the young man carried his pistol, just as many (or most) of us in the same business got into the habit of doing. That act, in and of itself, does not constitute negligence (many of us would argue that it displays nothing more than enlightened self-interest, and perhaps a sense of duty to protect the public). I suspect that the possibilities of alcohol involvement will have an effect on subsequent proceedings. I suspect that there will be arguments over the advisability of performing convoluted dancing movements (such as an intentional back-flip on the dance floor while carrying a deadly weapon) will have significant effect on how this case is resolved.

I seriously doubt that there will be any long-term prison sentence or significant jail time. I would expect a pre-trial disposition involving a plea bargain with an agreement for probation. It goes without saying that a career with the FBI, or any other law enforcement agency, is out of the question.

The only sure thing about this case is that it makes a powerful argument when the gun control argument turns to "only the police should have firearms".

Junior G-Man will not be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars" anytime soon.

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...what is the maximum jail sentence for second degree assault?...

...more than one year would result in loss of firearms rights...
 
Do stupid stuff. Win stupid prizes.

The guy is young enough to start another career, hopefully with a little less show boat in him.

I think he should be held to a higher standard than Joe citizen.
I don't care if it is stupid stuff or criminal stuff, when you go to work as a "public servant" you are saying to the public "trust me".

Willful criminal acts by public servants should carry doubled penalties.

This guy was just DUMB
 
...I will say however, that I am sad to hear that this poor 29 year old FBI agent will most likely lose his career over this. Yes he made a stupid mistake but having his life ruined over it is very sad. :(

You can be sad if you like but I won't join in that at all. What he did was incredibly irresponsible. He shouldn't be carrying a gun again - for a LONG time. His difficulties are entirely a result of his own very poor judgment. He needs a new non-gun-carrying job. Period.

His life is not ruined. He can go on to some vocation that suits him better - no doubt with some government agency.
 
Pure negligence. Frequently what happens when Feds run afoul of local law is that the Federal Prosecutor for the area steps in and asserts/works out a transfer to Federal jurisdiction. I don't see that happening here for numerous and very good reasons.

BAC test is still not in so there may be other shoes to drop in this.

Since he was on his own time, I expect he'll be footing his own legal bills. He might be buying his victim a house. At least a very nice car.
 
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Pure negligence. Frequently what happens when Feds run afoul of local law is that the Federal Prosecutor for the area steps in and asserts/works out a transfer to Federal jurisdiction. I don't see that happening here for numerous and very good reasons.

BAC test is still not in so there may be other shoes to drop in this.

Since he was on his own time, I expect he'll be footing his own legal bills. He might be buying his victim a house.

The lad has been charged.

More charges possible after blood alcohol test comes in.

Dancing F.B.I. Agent Charged With Assault After Denver Club Antics Lead to Shooting - The New York Times
 
How is any heat suddenly on the victim like he's pulling a scam? :confused:

He got shot due to the agent's negligence. He deserves restitution.

He is quoted as saying that he does not want to ruin the agent's life and that he would like a call from him. He absolutely deserves free medical treatment including rehab if needed, lost wages if any, and a substantial award for his pain, suffering, and inconvenience. The bar is giving him free drinks for life. I bet he avoids dance night in the future. Oh yes, he should get a free new pair of pants to replace the ones with the hole and blood.
 
I'm waiting for the blood alcohol result. I am surprised that the agant's blood sample wasn't put at the head of the line. Or that the agent wasn't told to blow into a Breathalyzer to get imme4diate results.
 
You can be sad if you like but I won't join in that at all. What he did was incredibly irresponsible. He shouldn't be carrying a gun again - for a LONG time. His difficulties are entirely a result of his own very poor judgment. He needs a new non-gun-carrying job. Period.

His life is not ruined. He can go on to some vocation that suits him better - no doubt with some government agency.

correct ... meanwhile, the dude that took a round in this is likely limited to fields that do not require standing or walking.
 
Do stupid stuff. Win stupid prizes.
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I think he should be held to a higher standard than Joe citizen.
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I have been mulling this over for days and I have come to that conclusion as well.

If he had been a Mall Security Guard, everyone would be laughing at him and saying he should be banned from owning firearms. But he's not a Mall Cop, he's an FBI Agent, and should be held to a much higher standard. Drinking and clowning around in a crowded bar all while armed and obviously impaired doesn't meet the standard.

No schadenfreude here, I just hope he finds a good job he is suited to and has a productive life, after making restitution for his egregious behavior.
 
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