Dancing FBI agent in custody

[JSR III]

This is a direct result of taking dodge ball out of the schools.....

 

[Muss Muggins]

Did you read that part where I mentioned "control the area"? Besides, this is "dropping your gun while getting a Jamba Juice", not tactical ninja nonsense.

Duly noted . . .

 

[Mr.Harry]

I LOVE lanyards. Wish everything had a lanyard hole.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

The whole incident should serve as poster child case for the importance of manual safety's. Never did get why they have gone out of favor with LE (and new shooters).

Gone out of favor? I'm not sure when they came into favor, but if they did, it was after the greater part of a century of a very widespread use of revolvers with no manual safety even available.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Lots of new information here. Got his gun back, BAC results won't be released but don't warrant additional charge, has been offered plea deal. Discuss . . .

Dancing FBI agent, accused in backflip gunfire incident, can carry weapon again - CBS News

 

[SuperMan]

As stupid and irresponsible as was the agent's conduct. I don't think it rises to the level of criminal behavior. It was an accident. The agent did not intend to shoot anyone.

...not according to the law in Colorado...

18-3-204. Assault in the third degree
(1) A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:
(a) The person knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another person or with criminal negligence the person causes bodily injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon; or
(b) The person, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten, or alarm another person whom the actor knows or reasonably should know to be a peace officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical care provider, or an emergency medical service provider, causes the other person to come into contact with blood, seminal fluid, urine, feces, saliva, mucus, vomit, or toxic, caustic, or hazardous material by any means, including throwing, tossing, or expelling the fluid or material.
(2) Repealed.
(3) Assault in the third degree is a class 1 misdemeanor and is an extraordinary risk crime that is subject to the modified sentencing range specified in section 18-1.3-501 (3).
(4) Repealed.

...there are no such things as "accidents". Once you know better everything is negligence.

So he will be only have to plea to a misdemeanor, no loss of the ability to carry a gun and probable no loss of job... The FBI puts a lot of money into hiring someone...if they want to keep him they will... Hopefully he'll learn from this...

Bob

 

[DeathGrip]

No surprise here.

I still remember the FBI wrong way crash down here. The drunk (0.14% almost twice the limit.) agent got reduced charges while two young men never made it home that night/early morning.

 

[DWalt]

Glocks have a long history of involvement in unintentional discharge incidents. It is usually blamed on inadequate firearms training and/or negligence of the owner and a fairly light trigger pull. NYPD requires that their Glocks have an 8-pound pull (or maybe it's even heavier today) instead of the normal 5.5 pound pull. Allegedly that has reduced such NYPD UD incidents but it has created other problems. I guess the FBI Glocks don't have the NY trigger.

I believe some foreign LE agencies require Glocks to have additional external thumb operated safeties. I know one local gunsmith who has modified a fairly large number of Glocks to have external safeties.

 

[Snapping Twig]

No, you don't. That's the point. And before I go on, review the other thread where I rip on Special Agent Clownshoes relentlessly, because he deserves it.

Go ahead and check the rulebooks for--oh, every action pistol sport ever. In each one that felt compelled to document the "dropped gun" procedure, you'll find that the standard is always "shooter steps back, RSO picks up the gun".

Why? Because dropping a gun and picking it up is dangerous, and people are prone to ****ing it up. That means you, me, and everyone else. The Booger Hook Chuckle and Holy Prayer of the Four Rules are the talismans we use to convince ourselves that it can't happen to us. Literally, the absolute worst, most disgustingly dangerous and reckless gun handling I've ever seen has come from "instructors" and Safety Sallies, because they think It Can't Happen To Them.

Christ, I saw a buffoon "demonstrate" the one-handed slide rack via belt--with a loaded, live pistol. In the 35 seconds it took this rube to get a round in the chamber, I beat feet. This same buffoon teaches some hopped-up IDPA safety course.

Got to disagree with you on this, completely.

There's 4 rules, learn them and live by them, or stay away from guns.

Please do not project or assume I would do what you may or may not do.

Booger hook off the bang stick until your eyes are on the sights.

Clearly, he did not abide by this rule.

 

[ditrina]

Well ... 4 pages that have pretty much covered everything from Tar and Feather to Training and Stupidity..

Thank you all for your input.