Sleep Apnea

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First of all, I am not a medical doctor. I am just relating my experiences in hopes that they might benefit the participants in this forum.

I now realize that I was exhibiting symptoms of sleep apnea for a lot of years. My uncle told me he observed a number of sleep stoppages when we were on fishing trips and when I would fall asleep in his recliner chair. It became somewhat of a joke here in town about how I would fall asleep sitting straight up at the American Legion and VFW bars. The manager of the VFW almost threw me out a few times, probably because he was afraid I would fall off the stool and hurt myself.

I have been informed that there is a connection among sleep apnea, heart disease and diabetes. I hit the trifecta on them. But for a long time I didn't follow up because I couldn't quantify the problem in my mind, I didn't like the prospect of going to a sleep clinic and getting hooked up with a bunch of electrodes and having a bunch of people studying me, and at times I had other medical issues that I thought had priority at the time.

Finally, the scope of my problems were brought to my attention. I had a regular appointment with my cardiologist, and his office gave out a questionnaire from the local sleep clinic to every patient who came in. When I filled out the questionnaire, I realized that I had a serious problem and made an appointment with the sleep doctor.

The process to diagnose sleep apnea has changed greatly. Instead of spending a night in a clinic, I was able to take a sleep monitor home and sleep in my own bed for the night. I have to be honest, wearing that monitor was not a pleasant experience. But it recorded enough to allow the doctor to see how bad my problem was.

I received my CPAP machine to assist my breathing at night 4 months ago. It took a couple nights but now I can wear the mask at night in comfort with a good air seal.

The results have been amazing. I have more energy and ambition. I have done more decluttering and organizing of stuff in the house in the last 2 months than I've done in the last couple years since I retired. From the records I keep, I see that I've lost some weight (maybe because I'm doing more activity) and my blood sugar appears to have improved.

I probably should have done something sooner, but that's water under the bridge. This is probably a long post for me, but I wanted to spread the word to our forum members so they can benefit from my experience and take steps to take care of themselves. Thank you for your indulgence.
 
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C-PAP

It surely helps but is not a cure. You will get a better quality sleep than you are getting now. IMO get the more advanced sleep study in the hospital (if it's offered there), there are many more things looked at with much better equipment. There WON'T be "a bunch" of people poking & prodding you, just 1 tech to set up the test & monitor things from a different room. As compared to most other tests, it's a breeze. Much better than a colonoscopy or visit to the dentist. Everyone should get one at an early age IMO, as it can show some very important info. I've had 4 studies since 1998, 2 in a hospital, 1 in a clinic, 1 at home. The DIY home test was a joke by comparison. I can't believe I survived falling asleep while driving SO MANY TIMES! :eek: You can do it & not even realize/remember it happened. When your body needs sleep it will still shut down at inappropriate times, now you know to be careful. How my old hunting buddy's ever slept with my snoring is still a mystery. I can still rattle the windows if I fall asleep without putting on the mask. Expect plenty of elbows from the wife about putting on the mask, or it's whistling from a leak (bad fit). Good luck.
 
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I have a severe case of it. I have been wearing a cpap for many years now. For ME it is not a cure but it helps a great deal. I attribute my insomnia, coronary artery disease, afib and lack of general health to living a life with apnea. Even as a young little boy I felt better at bedtime than when I woke up and even 3 or 3 hours after.
After wearing one I did internet research on cpaps and found that having the right set up for you is a muct. For me it is nasal pillows with head straps and a chin strap because I am a mouth breather. The nasal pillows help force open and keep open my nsala passages dues to allergies. The filtered air helps that and the forcing of air through the sinuses gets me the O2 I need. Masks do not work as they leak from being a side sleeper. At 1st i hated it. A cheap **** set up and time not spent with the Dr on follow up as ins wouldn't pay for it. After awhile they wouldn't even pay for the machine. I went on my own and procured the exact machine. I knew my settings and set it up. I studied about masks and such. Learned not to mess too much from Dr established settings at least on the high end. When I was forced to retire due to health issues and Medicare paid for another study (my 3rd) I got follow up care and I truly believe this has been a part of why I am alive today.
ANYONE who even THINKS they could have a sleep issue or exhibits tiredness on a somewhat regular basis needs a sleep study IMO regardless of your age. I did not fall asleep during the day. I forced my way through the day my whole life. I was a skilled carpenter in all phases from foundations to roofing to finish work to cabinet building and even designing and making custom log furniture. I had a traditional archery shop designed made sewed and sold a wildly popular hunting hat and a home improvement biz. Sleep Dr said it was a miracle I was able to accomplish even half that. I lost it all and went bankrupt due to health and heart issues. SO don't mess around if you or someone thinks you have it. GET IT CHECKED OUT. If you have it don't screw around. use the equipment and use it ias instructed and comply, comply, comply!
 
I had the sleep test in a clinic last fall. I had 81 and 84 episodes an hour; got a CPAP machine November 30. I cannot get accustomed to it and it drives me crazy. I am lucky to sleep four hours a night.
 
I had the sleep test in a clinic last fall. I had 81 and 84 episodes an hour; got a CPAP machine November 30. I cannot get accustomed to it and it drives me crazy. I am lucky to sleep four hours a night.

Very well could be the mask does not fit or simply is not the one for you. Could even be settings may be modified temporarily to get used to it. Have the tech (usually respiratory therapist or RN)
work with you. dozens and dozens of "masks" out there to find one that fits. they come in sizes, styles and models to choose from. It is IMPERATIVE you use one as directed. I can not stress that enough!!!
 
In the mid-90s, I was having trouble staying awake in meetings, and I would always fall asleep in movies and watching TV. Finally, my wife filmed me one night, and it was unbelievable how badly I snored...and how I would go for a long time without breathing, and then gasp for a breath. I went to my doctor who sent me for a sleep study.

In this case, they had me come in at night, and sleep in the clinic all night. I was supposed to sleep 4 hours without a CPAP (wired up, of course) and then 4 hours with a CPAP. I went to sleep and the tech woke me up about an hour later, and said they were going to go ahead and put the CPAP on me, since I had such terrible sleep apnea. I swear that was the sweetest sleep I've ever had!

I've used a CPAP machine ever since, and I cannot sleep without it now. I take it with me when I travel. One time I was on a business trip, and I checked my machine with my luggage (usually I carried it on.) When I got to the hotel, I found that my mask had been broken. Now, I'd like to think I'm not an idiot, but sometimes I wonder...I decided to try to repair it with superglue. I let it dry real good, and then when it was bedtime, I put on my mask and turned on my machine. Within seconds, I thought I was going to die! The fumes from the superglue were suffocating me. I had to try to sleep without it, which I really mostly just dozed and then jerked awake.

Fortunately, I was going home the next day, and I had a spare mask at home. Since then, I never checked my machine when I flew, and I always pack my mask most carefully.
 
Very well could be the mask does not fit or simply is not the one for you. Could even be settings may be modified temporarily to get used to it. Have the tech (usually respiratory therapist or RN)
work with you. dozens and dozens of "masks" out there to find one that fits. they come in sizes, styles and models to choose from. It is IMPERATIVE you use one as directed. I can not stress that enough!!!

Please follow up on what Firesticks said. My test turned up 43 sleep stoppages an hour and now I am averaging less than 1 stoppage an hour. I had a couple nights in the last month with no stoppages at all. I got lucky the first time with my set-up. My mask seals well and I can sleep usually at least 7 hours a night. My machine is set on the lowest pressure and that seems to be all I need.
 
INDEED YOU ARE LUCKY.

I had the sleep test in a clinic last fall. I had 81 and 84 episodes an hour; got a CPAP machine November 30. I cannot get accustomed to it and it drives me crazy. I am lucky to sleep four hours a night.

The improved quality of sleep you get in 4 hours (depending on your severity) is still far better than 8 hours of poor quality sleep, breathing/heart stopping for periods of time & the resulting drop in your oxygen concentration levels over decades & the health problems that go along with them. An uncomfortable mask & a change of sleeping positions is a small price to pay. NOT TO MENTION the wife having to sleep in another room. It affects MORE THAN YOU! It took me a few months to learn to sleep on my back & after 20 years, I rarely get more than 5-6 hours sleep at most. Considering the likely alternatives (DEATH), I ain't complaining. ;)
 
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Miss Pam and I have been on our CPAPs since last October. We have both seen dramatic improvements in several areas of our lives. We both did the 2 night sleep study and learned the severity of our situations. We both stopped breathing dozens of times every hour. Now neither one of us can sleep without our machines. And we both feel years younger. We were both leery of trying to sleep with with all the hoses and masks and machinery but the adjustment was really no big deal.

Anyone that has sleep problems need not hesitate or worry about anything. It's no big deal and you will feel a whole lot better. Really. Just do it.
 
The improved quality of sleep you get in 4 hours (depending on your severity) is still far better than 8 hours of poor quality sleep, breathing/heart stopping for periods of time & the resulting drop in your oxygen concentration levels over decades & the health problems that go along with them. An uncomfortable mask & a change of sleeping positions is a small price to pay. NOT TO MENTION the wife having to sleep in another room. It affects MORE THAN YOU! It took me a few months to learn to sleep on my back & after 20 years, I rarely get more than 5-6 hours sleep at most. Considering the likely alternatives (DEATH), I ain't complaining. ;)

Thank you for describing all of the problems I could have been subjecting myself to. I'm glad I finally wised up and got checked out. I should have done it a long time ago.
 
Had the sleep study done and was so bad they thought their machine was acting up ..

A week later another one and then they figured out I have a rare type of apnea caused by my brain and not the closing off of ones throat .. Its call Central Sleep Apnea .. I only stopped for 9 to 11 times an hour but for as long a 4 to 6 minutes at a time .. and then I would gasp for air and do it all again .. was only breathing half the time .. one hour I breathed for 23 minutes of the hour and held my breath the rest of the hour .. My brain doesn't tell my body to breath until the my gasp reflex kicks in .. bad on every part of ones body because blood O2 can drop down to 60% .. anything under about 88% can cause medical problems with your heart .

Took a few adjustments and sleep like a baby now .. head aches in the morning are gone .. If you have a CPAP machine and are having trouble breathing and sleeping wearing it make them (dr) lower the pressure to where its not a factor ..

Wish I would have gotten mine years before I did !!
 
BREATHING/HEART STOPPING IS SCARY.

During my first hospital clinical rotation while in nursing school they set me up good. :D The first patient I ever used a stethoscope on had bad sleep apnea & was asleep. The ba bump ba bump, then NOTHING for the longest 20-30 seconds of my life. I thought for sure he died. :D When I moved in with my future wife, aside from the loud snoring, the breath stopping, the gasping for air, scared the heck out of her. Thanks to that fear she forced me into a sleep study, BEST thing that could have happened. :) She would NEVER have married me with having to sleep in another room.
 
Had the sleep study done and was so bad they thought their machine was acting up ..

A week later another one and then they figured out I have a rare type of apnea caused by my brain and not the closing off of ones throat .. Its call Central Sleep Apnea .. I only stopped for 9 to 11 times an hour but for as long a 4 to 6 minutes at a time .. and then I would gasp for air and do it all again .. was only breathing half the time .. one hour I breathed for 23 minutes of the hour and held my breath the rest of the hour .. My brain doesn't tell my body to breath until the my gasp reflex kicks in .. bad on every part of ones body because blood O2 can drop down to 60% .. anything under about 88% can cause medical problems with your heart .

That is really scary. I'm glad you got fixed up.
 
Yes there is obstructive sleep apnea and central sleep apnea. Different treatments. I am pretty sure all central apnea is dealt with using a bi-pap machine. They cost more but if you need one there is no substitute.
 
Yes there is obstructive sleep apnea and central sleep apnea. Different treatments. I am pretty sure all central apnea is dealt with using a bi-pap machine. They cost more but if you need one there is no substitute.

Yes I have a sort of Bi Pap machine and there about 2X the cost or more of the regular apnea machines .. it has a special logarithm program that runs it .. They also have a machine that helps with people that have both apnea and COPD ..
 
Yes there is obstructive sleep apnea and central sleep apnea. Different treatments. I am pretty sure all central apnea is dealt with using a bi-pap machine. They cost more but if you need one there is no substitute.

Back in the 1990s when I was involved with the ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) support group we had a number of patients who used a bi-pap machine at night for breathing assistance. Now I realize was they use that machine instead of a CPAP. ALS has a neurological component.
 
Back in the 1990s when I was involved with the ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) support group we had a number of patients who used a bi-pap machine at night for breathing assistance. Now I realize was they use that machine instead of a CPAP. ALS has a neurological component.

Bi Pap machines are suppose trigger the breath response and then according to how the pressure is set it acts almost like a lung machine helping one to breath ..
 
I am due for a mask change. So far I have not learned to sleep on my back, as I was a dedicated belly sleeper. I was told to give it three months, but i have had it for seven months and am no more accustomed to it than the first week I got it.
 
I am due for a mask change. So far I have not learned to sleep on my back, as I was a dedicated belly sleeper. I was told to give it three months, but i have had it for seven months and am no more accustomed to it than the first week I got it.

Maybe split the difference. I can sleep pretty well on my side while wearing the mask.
 
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