I can't ad any more than my congrats to all that's been said.
Neat that your wife named it.
Thanks for sharing.
Neat that your wife named it.
Thanks for sharing.
You may hate this one, but I love it!
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Totally cool, so I agree with everyone else. Can you please just make us relaxed and tell us you do not live within the confines of a city, town, village, or other similar municipality. I think there is a universal ban on firing firearms within city limits everywhere. Out in the country that's different. 
Patrick L
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Others already beat me to it, but I do recall that Colonel Askins did something like this in his Bullseye days, to get a very low recoiling CF round . I believe that it caused controversy, like most of the things he did
THE PILGRIM
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He resigned from the Border Patrol and went to Chama, NM.
When I read that, That was the first I ever heard of Chama.
Totally cool, so I agree with everyone else. Can you please just make us relaxed and tell us you do not live within the confines of a city, town, village, or other similar municipality. I think there is a universal ban on firing firearms within city limits everywhere. Out in the country that's different.
Actually in FL, there are certain requirements to do so legally, but some cities can have backyard ranges within city limits...
But I do live in the country. I have neighbors on 2 sides, but the closest house front or back are over 2 miles away. I've got over 3/4 mile clear line of sight out back, and I'm also very careful about my backstops, but I appreciate the reminder about safety, the last thing any of us wants is a stray bullet causing someone harm.
Here's a wacky idea for you.
Has anyone tried using a shotgun primer in a regular 22LR shell with the bottom drilled out?
I drilled and countersunk some 357 cartridges to accept a standard 209 size primer and they make a wax bullet move out at a pretty impressive clip. They sound about like a 22 short.
So I was wondering if the same thing might work with standard 22 rimfire casings. I know they are really thin walled, but the shotgun primers have a nice solid body with a flange on the outside.
I may have to give it a try with some wax bullets just for grins. If it works, I might try the bullet out of a regular 22lr round and see what happens. I figure worst case I stick a bullet in the bore and have to drive it out...
Has anyone tried using a shotgun primer in a regular 22LR shell with the bottom drilled out?
I drilled and countersunk some 357 cartridges to accept a standard 209 size primer and they make a wax bullet move out at a pretty impressive clip. They sound about like a 22 short.
So I was wondering if the same thing might work with standard 22 rimfire casings. I know they are really thin walled, but the shotgun primers have a nice solid body with a flange on the outside.
I may have to give it a try with some wax bullets just for grins. If it works, I might try the bullet out of a regular 22lr round and see what happens. I figure worst case I stick a bullet in the bore and have to drive it out...
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I think the diameters will be an issue for you, the .22lr runs about .225 ahead of the rim, while 209 primers run around .241. I think if you had a contender barrel in .22 magnum, you could probably breach seat a bullet or ball and then load in the 209 primer and do that.
If you have some old Remington 57 primers, you'd be a lot closer, I think they were around .226-.228 and might fit in a .22Lr chamber that's a little worn. But I haven't seen Remington 57's on the shelf in a long time...
I made up a tube to fire .22 pellets in a .410 shotgun by turning a .22 barrel down to fit, then throating it for the pellet and cutting a 'chamber' for the 209 primer. It was blowing the skirts off of .22 pellets, so I went to #4 buckshot pushed through a .224 sizer. It was fun, but I never got the accuracy I wanted.
RMFnLA
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Love it!
And finally, someone found a good use for .25 ACP..!
And finally, someone found a good use for .25 ACP..!
Well, your subject line seems to have been thoroughly debunked!
Maybe some readers have elected to not reply, but so far it appears that -NOBODY- hates this idea!
I've got to be honest, I wasn't expecting such a warm reception. You guys are great.
I do imagine the response might have been different if I'd altered some collectible classic though...
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Using the old Velodog case as a starting point and a Colt Woodsman. How much simpler it would have been to use a revolver. Glad to see his spirit lives on.
For more on the subject, see this:
American Rifleman | Askins’ Hot Rod
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No, everybody loves to see that kind of craftsmanship, even if a few good guns get modified, it's worth it. It's not like bubba....I do imagine the response might have been different if I'd altered some collectible classic though...
cgt4570
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Yep, this is the one I was thinking of. It's in one of my cartridge conversion books or something.
Those rounds have been obsolete for decades. :-(
Yessir, A neat cartridge and an even neater story. I'm not aware of anyone else copying Mr Askins in his endeavors, but prior to the advent of the internet, information sharing about such things was more difficult, and I'm sure it happened plenty, just no records I could find of it.
I've made some Velo Dog brass for old revolvers using hornet brass, and it's part of why I knew this was a feasible path to follow. I started using hornet brass for this before I realized I could use the .25 ACP case with less work.
I just gave a 10 star thread a 5 star rating—I think it’s first, to my amazement!
Brings back long ago memories. As teenagers my friends and I frequented a dead end dirt road not too far out of town where we would shoot our .22 rifles and .38 revolvers. A man would show up regularly with a very strange group of guns and would explain in detail what they were and what he was doing. I remember him saying “ this pill goes out at “ some amazing velocity. He was an avid and successful wild catter and like many men during that time in my life he would delight in talking about his guns and would encourage us to shoot them. His blonde and bored wife would sit in his Cadillac filing her nails while he shot and talked to us. That remains my sole brush with such adventures, we were then and remain today traditionalists with just one of us reloading on a very casual basis. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post and admire your ability and ingenuity as I did that man 50 years ago.
Regards,
turnerriver
Regards,
turnerriver
max503
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I could see having something like this. It would be very versatile.
Doug M.
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I am impressed. Not my cup of tea, but a darned fine bit of work, from thought to implementation.
I like it. I looked into the Cooper, but as said brass was a pain. Could be made from Hornet brass by firming then turning the base and rims. If someone would make a bunch of straight walled 22 centerfire brass, I would be all over it. So used a model 10 added adjustable sights and a K22 barrel and a cylinder reamed to 22 Kay Chuck. Later reaming a cylinder to 22 TCM, intending to cut it for clips and make clips. But, never have after firing it and poking out brass. Nothing wrong with it just went to other things and never got back to it. I did get a 55 from 22 mold then milled it down so it cast 40 grain slugs for Kay Chuck and my Jet.
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Very cool! I am thoroughly impressed with your ingeninuity and skills.
