Canceled the P365 order. I'll stick with the Shield

[SpartyME]

As I recall, initial production Shields were being sold at a price pretty close to MRSP until the frenzy was over. Keep in mind that the P365 comes standard with tritium sights and definitely has a better trigger than the stock Shields.

I paid over MSRP in August 2012 for my Shield and couldn’t find another within literally 100 miles, despite launching in April. And I’d pay it over again if I had to. Both of my P365’s were $450 out of pocket each at Cabela’s by buying discounted gift cards.

 

[akdude]

From all I hear Sig claims that all P365's made after July 18 are now 100% fixed, but heard that before.

Did watch a vid of an August made model and the dude had the follower stick in the slot cut out for the mag release and he had a rough time loading more then 5 rds. in that mag!

 

[00 buck]

Yep, they're jacking it up cause it's hard to find. Kind of like Apple does with every new Iphone. Did the same thing with the P-320. Another reason to wait. Today I got an email from Brownells for a SC Sig P-320 (contrast sights of course) for $399. Always pays to be patient.

They are gen 1 with the upgrade trigger ( probably distributor returns )
The slide stop is gen 1 also....
They are ok but not brand new production....I bought one

Note
Brownells refused to publish my review that stated this

 

[mikesal34744]

So I finally got to see the P365 in person today. Daaaaaaamn That thing is sweet. I can't believe you can do 12 rounds in that thing. I can wait another year easily. Hopefully more ranges will have it to rent by then.

However my question to those that have a shield 9mm and a P365 is, is the P365 a softer shooter, about the same or snappier then the Shield?

Both are easy shooters to me. The p365 is my best shooter for a small gun. It’s sometimes just love putting rounds through


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[Chdezjr]

Different strokes for different folks. Sig makes great guns but always seems to have Quality control issues when they push an item too quickly to the market, like the P320 triggers and the 'voluntary upgrade' and the striker pin on the P365. My current stable of M&p's (and some non M&P's) have worked just fine for me up until now and at the end of the day, a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush.

 

[mltndw3]

Different strokes for different folks. Sig makes great guns but always seems to have Quality control issues when they push an item too quickly to the market, like the P320 triggers and the 'voluntary upgrade' and the striker pin on the P365. My current stable of M&p's (and some non M&P's) have worked just fine for me up until now and at the end of the day, a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush.

I have both. Nothing wrong with my Shield 1.0. I have a beautiful Wright's holster, 5 magazines, and many range trips with this gun under my belt. My wife and I just shoot the 365 better. We've had zero problems and it is now my carry weapon. We still shoot the Shield and have no plans to sell it. If money is an issue, go for a used Shield. It's a great value.

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[joeb1]

I have conceal carried a few different guns over the years. Ruger SR40c (1 year), Shield 40 (1 1/2 years), Walther PPS M2 (1 year), PC Shirld 45 (2 years). Now I have been carrying a P365 since mid April. I have put over 10,200 rounds of various brands and grains through it with ZERO problems. It is such fun to shoot. Hence the round count. It's even more fun since I went green. The Lima365 green laser. Love it.

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[wnderr]

It’s a lot bigger then the 365.


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Surprisingly, not that much bigger, and it's melted edges make it feel and fit smaller! On top of that, it is amazingly comfortable to carry IWB!

 

[ladder13]

The Shield is a great gun, no question. The 365 has a major advantage with the 12+1 magazine. I don’t think any gun of it’s size is so capable, but I could be wrong, and it fits in my pocket bone stock.

 

[Chazman1946]

I have many carry pistols, and had for a short time the P365. Although the one I owned shot flawlessly for 500 rounds, the weapon just never ergonomically fit my hand right, only possibly with the 12 round mag.

The lingering reliability problems with this pistol (Youtube MAC Channel, purchased 3 separate P365s each one seriously flawed), and this not honestly being publicly addressed by Sig forced me to sell it.

My P365 with a born date of 28 June 2018 still evidenced severe striker drag, where my Glock 42 didn’t, sort of dispelling the "all subcompacts have striker drag" meme used to defend the P365.

Call me paranoid, and despite the others glowing anecdotal reports aside, I can't trust my life on what maybe a ticking time bomb.

Current carry collection



My P365 with 12 round mag




P365 striker drag, next to my Glock 42 showing NO striker drag, This dispels the “all subcompacts have striker drag” meme.




I just test fired a S&W Shield for the first time yesterday, the original model (I have dry fired the 2.0 model at a LGS) and was surprised how nice this pistol is, fits better in my hand with the 8+1 mag then any other Subcompact I have shot, Glock 43, PPS M2 with 7 round Mags, and the P365.

The Shield to me had less recoil and was even more accurate then all of the above. I'm picking one up tomorrow. Now which one? Laser, Tritium sights, or the PC with the Hi Rez???

 

[joeb1]

Get the PC. I have the PC 45. It shoots/handles better than my Shield 40 or the 9 I rented at the range.

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[Chazman1946]

Get the PC. I have the PC 45. It shoots/handles better than my Shield 40 or the 9 I rented at the range.

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Do you have the Hi-Rez sights, and how are they holding up?

Also, does the porting really help out, and how dirty does it get the weapon?

 

[triaxle]

I will keep my Shield , to many issues with this new Sig . My Smith is a tac driver no problems at all , night sights ,ex mags are cheap .

 

[Sheepdoggit]

After reading all the **** about the P365 having issues too many to list here, I canceled my pre-order and will stick with the Shield (first generation). Why? Because if I'm betting my life on something, I want there to be absolutely ZERO DOUBT about its function and dependability.
I carried a Beretta 96D and then two different Sig P226 weapons before I retired. The Beretta was a piece of total junk and the 226's were tack drivers. I'm sure the P365 will be much better in the future but for now, I'll stick with what I know: Thousands of rounds fired through the Shield with ZERO weapon malfunctions.

Wise move. I own pistols from both companies, but I would take a Shield over a SIG P365 any day of the week.

 

[FloridaS&W]

I have many carry pistols, and had for a short time the P365....

I just test fired a S&W Shield for the first time yesterday, the original model (I have dry fired the 2.0 model at a LGS) and was surprised how nice this pistol is, fits better in my hand with the 8+1 mag then any other Subcompact I have shot, Glock 43, PPS M2 with 7 round Mags, and the P365.

The Shield to me had less recoil and was even more accurate then all of the above. I'm picking one up tomorrow.

"Fits better in my hand than any other Subcompact I have shot" ...
Yep, and that's a great review, coming from a guy like yourself who has at least 5 EDC pistols. I have not handled the P365, but I can say with confidence that the M&P's have the most ergonomic feel of any handgun I have ever held. When it comes to the grip and feel, M&P knocked it out of the park a long time ago, and the others are still trying to catch up.

 

[Barbasnoo]

Yeah.. the internet sensationalism is to blame for blowing the P365 issues astronomically out of proportion. The failure rates are well below industry standards. No more than any other gun. That being said. I own both a shield and a P365, and I trust my life to both of them.


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[joeb1]

Wise move. I own pistols from both companies, but I would take a Shield over a SIG P365 any day of the week.

My PC Shield45 is shelved in favor of Siggy.
I feel it's pretty reliable now with over 10,000 rounds through it since mid April.

 

[BE Mike]

I really get tired of all the "accuracy" talk nowadays. It used to mean something when people had the skills to shoot good groups at 25 yds. As far as the 96D not being as accurate as your Sigs, well it is really comparing apples to oranges. One is double-action only, while the other is traditional double-action, and how about calibers? While the Shield is a fine pistol, I have a very knowledgable buddy who has one and has sunk a lot of money into upgrades, i.e. sights, trigger group. I took a chance on a Sig P 365 and mine is a fine pistol, out-of-the box. Over 1,200 rounds through it so far and it is like the Energizer Bunny. I pretty much don't pay attention to internet chatter, even from respected internet stars anymore, since the witch trials of late regarding Sig products. I only own two, a Sig P 320 compact and a Sig P 365. Glad you are happy with your Shield, but that doesn't make any other similar pistol inferior.

 

[ladder13]

My PC Shield45 is shelved in favor of Siggy.
I feel it's pretty reliable now with over 10,000 rounds through it since mid April.

I’d say @10,000 rds it’s proven itself.

 

[waffles]

The 365 troubles disappointed me. I had a shield which I found inferior to the Glock 43 (except in price, the sub $300 you can often find the shields for make them one of the first guns I recommend to new carriers). I love my 43, but the 365 blew both of them away as far as capability and shootability. If one day the stigma wears off enough for me to trust them I'd love one to carry.