Gun Show Duo.............

Trooper224

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A couple of weeks ago I attended a local gun show. I haven't been to one in a while, since they're typically nothing but a goonfest these days. However, my semi-retired indentured fed status has given me a few spare shekels in my pouch, so I decided to risk it.

On the very last table at the show, I found something I've wanted for quite some time. A gun so awesome it had a record album named after it.

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I've always thought Beretta's Model 70 was an awfully cool little gun. It's somewhat art deco design reminds me of a ray gun from a 1930's Flash Gordon serial. It really epitomizes the Ferrariesque aesthetic Beretta maintained until the advent their plastic fantastic offerings. Specifically, this is a 70S in .380acp, manufactured in 1985.

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I caught it out of the corner of my eye as I was passing the table, nestled there among the Glocks, Caniks and Taurii. I opened with a slightly lower than marked price and was informed the gun belonged to the dealers father and a call needed to be made. A call was quickly made, to the retirement home for cool guys who own Beretta 70's and my offer was deemed acceptable. Being manufactured in 1985, it had a few scuffs and dings from nearly thirty five years of service, but all in all it was in pretty good shape. Except that is, for the thumb rest grips that were required for the guns legal importation, due to the GCA of 1968. Apparently, some politician decided that flat grips were the mark of an assassin, yet a thumb rest meant you were a sporting man. An ebay search located a set of original factory grips, sans thumb rest, and the offenders were consigned to the box-o-grips.

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An initial range trip showed everything to be in good working order and the 70 is a surprisingly good shooter for a small gun, although I found it surprisingly snappy. Hardly detrimental, but the web of my strong hand really felt it afterward. Original factory mags come with a nose bleed inducing price, so I'm glad I don't need any. Overall though a pleasing find I was happy to check off the list of my growing vintage Beretta collection.

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But wait, there's more.................

Before I discovered the Beretta I found something else that peaked my interest: a Manurhin produced Walther PP, in .32acp. "7.65mm, with a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window." Post WWII, Germany was allowed to rearm the Bundeswehr, but they weren't allowed to produced arms in Germany itself. As a result, Walther set up a plant in Haut-Rihn, Greater Est France known as Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin, or Manurhin in abbreviated form. Not only were PP series pistols manufactured under the Manurhin banner, unfinished parts were shipped to Walther in Germany for finishing. Consequently, this is a case of "same but different". Manufactured in 1961, the pistol features the quality of an old Walther, but lacks the collector value due to the lack of the Walther banner on the slide. The upside is the substantially lower price. I'm not a Walther collector and don't plan on becoming one, so this cheaper sample of one is fine with me.

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I've never cared for the PP series of pistols as carry guns. Being too small for my hands they abuse the web of my shooting hand terribly and too many of the US produced examples I've seen suffered from QC issues. Still, I've had a hankering for one lately. Ever since I encountered a stainless Interarms era PPK in a local pawnshop. After all, every self respecting collection needs a James Bond gun.

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The same dealer had a World War Two PPK for sale. This would have been my preferred choice but, unfortunately it had been refinished at some point. The ****e had been polished out of it enough to remove all the markings, thereby destroying any value. It was shiny and blue though. I then found this one. I was immediately taken by the quality of the machining and finishing. Both of which were far better than any US produced PP series pistol I've ever encountered. The trigger was also superior to the domestically produced guns, both in single and double action.

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Due to the pattern of finish wear and the addition of a lanyard loop, this was obviously a European governmental sidearm of some kind. In spite of the finish wear, the quality of manufacturing caught my eye and the piece had a very solid, well made feel to it. However, I found this one early in my show coverage so I decided to hold off. I did negotiate a lower than marked price beforehand. The dealer was from the western part of the state and it helped that he knew a lot of my old coworkers. I told him if I didn't find anything of greater interest, I'd be back.

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At the eleventh hour I found the Beretta, so I let the PP lie. Still, I went home with it on my mind. So, after a strategic reconnoitering of Mrs. Awesome's good will, I returned to the show the next day and brought the PP home. It turned out to be a fine shooter as well. The slide tortures my hand as expected, but it will dump an eight round mag into a dime sized hole at ten yards. This experience has caused me to opine that the PP series pistols are better guns in .32acp than .380acp. I was impressed by how smoothly the gun operated in this smaller caliber. I won't be shooting through any plate glass windows any time soom, but it's a nice addition to the "Ain't it cool?" section of my safe.
 
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I too am a big fan of the PP and PPK guns. Mine are from the early 60's and put many of today's semi autos to shame in quality fit and finish.

Nice score for you. Congrats.
 
My only PP is a Manurhin in .22LR made about 1961 or so, came to me in the original box with manual and factory target. Excellent quality overall!

I have owned PP and PPK series pistols by Walther (Germany) and Interarms-Walther in both .32 and .380. None of those has shown better quality or workmanship than the Manurhin.
 
I find the recoil of all those Makarov/PP/Beretta blowback pistols snappy to abusive. By all accounts the PA63 in 9mm Mak is the worst. My FEG PP clone in 32 is just fine, though.
 
Trooper224, what is the purpose of the small holes drilled into both pistols, the Beretta under the slide, the other behind the trigger? Just curious.

They're not holes. They're dots that I used to obscure the serial number, as I thought they looked better than a squiggly pen line.
 
Being a hardcore S&W guy , I still find your Beretta quite a piece of work . I'm not a .380 guy , but I could learn to be one if I had one of those . Congratulations on the find . Now I have something else to look for . Just won't be able to put it in the safe with the Smiths if I find one .
 
Had a 70-S in the early 80s...... traded it off for a Walther PPK/s as I didn't like to carry cocked and locked..... which in time, was traded for a Stainless Interarms .380 PPK which I still have.

Great gun and wish I'd kept it.

enjoy.
 
They're not holes. They're dots that I used to obscure the serial number, as I thought they looked better than a squiggly pen line.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

That was sooooooooooo clever!!!! Probably unnecessary but, still, those dots look EXACTLY like holes and I was stunned.

:D

I have a Beretta Model 70S in .22LR that I have had for years (picture not presently available) and it, too, came with the thumb-rest grips which I replaced with grips similar to the ones you used. The GCA of 1968 caused that and to this day the reasoning is inexplicable to anyone with a normal brain.

I always heard that the Walther PPK had obnoxious recoil but having never fired one I could never discuss it but I always liked the looks of those pistols. I had an Astra Constable that I sold years ago, NIB and that includes my never firing it, so when the PPK/S .22 came out I just had to have one. Just for the James Bon sentiment.

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So, one question - in the poster for the "Beretta 70" movie why is a revolver shown? :rolleyes:
 
That was sooooooooooo clever!!!! Probably unnecessary but, still, those dots look EXACTLY like holes and I was stunned.

Don't feel bad. I posted this on other forums and that same question's been asked on every one. :)

So, one question - in the poster for the "Beretta 70" movie why is a revolver shown? :rolleyes:

Every time I see that album cover I think the same thing. I can only assume he's some famous Italian actor of the period.
 
Nice pistols,,especially like the Model PP.
I had a Beretta Model 948 (22LR). That was a nice pistol that shot and handled well. Another that went into the 'Why did I sell it' column.

The revolver in the pic might be a Beretta Model 1 (?),,their new at the time (1980) state of the art L/E revolver.It never went into production AFAIK.
Just some pre-production and maybe a few early roll out production guns being made.
Timing would be about right for the album.
Bad timing to throw a revolver onto the L/E market in the early 80's.
It sure got the Beretta name out there.
...all just my guess by looking at an artists illustration of course.
 
I had a mid 70's Walther PP in .32 a number of years ago and really liked it. I never found the recoil to be bad. Mine was marked as previously belonging to some Austrian security service. I sold it in bad times, almost never see any for sale around here anymore.
I wish I could find pistols like yours at our local gun shows. There just doesn't seem to be much appreciation for them anymore.
 
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