Lonestar57
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Well I hate to laugh at someone's misfortune but I believe this statement will hold true. But also I feel it's a little too late at this point.
2020 Colt Python
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Well I hate to laugh at someone's misfortune but I believe this statement will hold true. But also I feel it's a little too late at this point.
Why is the new Python $600-$800 more than a new SW? Prettier? Shoot better? Last longer? What am I missing?
reaper556
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The name likely, and I would say yes to looking better on both sides.
ETA: An answer to the Python from S&W in the form of a proper Registered Magnum without a lock and proper barrel in your custom length, finish and stock options would be fantastic I would probably break the sound barrier whipping my wallet out. (I know, I know. I can dream right?)
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Walter Rego
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Here’s a photo of the reverse side:
The gun proudly wears a QR bar code. This is a great new feature. You can download an app on your phone that can “scan” these codes and it will often bring up user manuals, videos, and other resources.
I'll have to dissent regarding Colt's defacement of the new Python with the QR bar code.
I find it unnecessary and a cosmetic eyesore. I'm not a fan of the plywood looking laminated stocks either but at least those can be changed out.
It looks like Colt set out to build a functionally better than the original Pythons while keeps the look very close to the original.
I don't really buy Smith is making the best 586 or 686s they can nowadays. Too many canted barrels, rough actions and general inconsistencies in the product.
I'd love to see Smith step up, lose the lock and build the best 586/686 they can.
If they'd have asked me, the QR thing could have been hidden on the grip frame under the stocks.
My dream gun has been a 4" bright stainless Python for a few years.
Every description I've read claims it's stainless, and it sure looks bright.
I've been in the market for a 2.75" 69.
Pretty sure that's changed now.
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I was thinking about the MSRP price Colt has listed for the Python. I'm sure that's what their going to sell for for a while...and over for the people that have to have them now.
Unless Colt plans on only making a limited number, I'd think the actual sell price would drop after a year or so.
Right now S&W has the 2.75" 69 listed at $854.00. I missed two auctions this week on new ones for less than $600.
Think the Colt will be the same, or should a person grab one ASAP?
Every description I've read claims it's stainless, and it sure looks bright.
I've been in the market for a 2.75" 69.
Pretty sure that's changed now.
*EDIT*
I was thinking about the MSRP price Colt has listed for the Python. I'm sure that's what their going to sell for for a while...and over for the people that have to have them now.
Unless Colt plans on only making a limited number, I'd think the actual sell price would drop after a year or so.
Right now S&W has the 2.75" 69 listed at $854.00. I missed two auctions this week on new ones for less than $600.
Think the Colt will be the same, or should a person grab one ASAP?
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I don't know what a 4" New Python will do that my 4" 686-1 won't do, but I still want one.
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found on another forum...old vs new...looks like lots fewer parts, not sure about 14 less on the action alone, maybe 14 less in the entire gun...a MIM fest for sure, no fitting required but that may be a good thing. S&W will feel the pressure....GET RID OF THE LOCK, drive some sales....!!!!
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Grayfox
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I have no doubt that the "new" Python will be an excellent revolver. It may well be a better revolver. However, with a totally different lock work its just a new gun with an old name. Just the same as the new Cobras. Colt is counting on name recognition to sell a completely different gun.
Rather than comparing new to old, I think its much more fitting to consider the 2020 as a completely separate revolver and judge it on its own merits.
I doubt the new Python will have much impact on the prices of older Pythons. But then I think that much over inflated market is well overdue for a crash anyway.
I own a 1975 Blue 6" Python and have long desired a 4" to go with it. Maybe if they come out with a blued version I'll take a look.
Rather than comparing new to old, I think its much more fitting to consider the 2020 as a completely separate revolver and judge it on its own merits.
I doubt the new Python will have much impact on the prices of older Pythons. But then I think that much over inflated market is well overdue for a crash anyway.
I own a 1975 Blue 6" Python and have long desired a 4" to go with it. Maybe if they come out with a blued version I'll take a look.
reaper556
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If I'm not mistaken one of those photos is actually of the new king cobras internals and the other the python
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You are most certainly in the minority in your opinion, and that’s totally fine. Most will agree it’s a good feature and/or don’t care if it’s there or not.
Im gonna be FAT RICK GRIMMES for Halloween next year!
Engine49guy
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While I do own quite a few Colt revolvers the S&W triggers and actions have always fealt superior in every way to me.
Id be interested in buying a new Python if the trigger is as good as the reviews claim.
(A lifetime warranty would seal the deal)...
I would also buy another if Colt offered a Python in .22lr (Or at least a SS Diamondback in .22lr HINT HINT)....
Always wondered why S&W never offered a 686 with a close copy of the Python vented barrel rib...the one vented L frame S&W did offer recently looked horrible IMO.
Maybe Smith will even take notice and offer a 4" SS Model 627 with a Mountain gun style tapered barrel profile, real checkered topstrap and the key hole deleted .
Id be interested in buying a new Python if the trigger is as good as the reviews claim.
(A lifetime warranty would seal the deal)...
I would also buy another if Colt offered a Python in .22lr (Or at least a SS Diamondback in .22lr HINT HINT)....
Always wondered why S&W never offered a 686 with a close copy of the Python vented barrel rib...the one vented L frame S&W did offer recently looked horrible IMO.
Maybe Smith will even take notice and offer a 4" SS Model 627 with a Mountain gun style tapered barrel profile, real checkered topstrap and the key hole deleted .
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Rick Grimes with Python:
I’ll wager a huge portion of new Python buyers are going to have been first turned on to the big Colt snake gun from the Walking Dead television series. That’s not a bad thing. Hoping many of them enjoy the revolver and learn to shoot it well. This could spur a real resurgence in revolver usage from youth shooters.
Personally, and I know many of you here will either not understand this or laugh, but I first fell in love with the Python not from the Walking Dead, but the 2004 video game Half-Life 2. In that game, it’s a very powerful handgun you can use to defeat the cyborg alien overlords that have taken over the planet. I’d link a video to it but the game contains blood and is violent, probably against the forum standards for sure.
Cue the nerd alert! But seriously, what’s really the difference in modern TV/movies or games when many people here were first turned on to Smith & Wesson’s from Dirty Harry, or the Colt Peacemaker from the westerns of the 50s and 60s? Hollywood and the entertainment industry have a powerful effect on us. I’m all for more people owning revolvers and enjoying them, no matter from where they were first introduced to them. Without these media I highly doubt we’d be talking about a new Python right now to begin with.
I’ll wager a huge portion of new Python buyers are going to have been first turned on to the big Colt snake gun from the Walking Dead television series. That’s not a bad thing. Hoping many of them enjoy the revolver and learn to shoot it well. This could spur a real resurgence in revolver usage from youth shooters.
Personally, and I know many of you here will either not understand this or laugh, but I first fell in love with the Python not from the Walking Dead, but the 2004 video game Half-Life 2. In that game, it’s a very powerful handgun you can use to defeat the cyborg alien overlords that have taken over the planet. I’d link a video to it but the game contains blood and is violent, probably against the forum standards for sure.
Cue the nerd alert! But seriously, what’s really the difference in modern TV/movies or games when many people here were first turned on to Smith & Wesson’s from Dirty Harry, or the Colt Peacemaker from the westerns of the 50s and 60s? Hollywood and the entertainment industry have a powerful effect on us. I’m all for more people owning revolvers and enjoying them, no matter from where they were first introduced to them. Without these media I highly doubt we’d be talking about a new Python right now to begin with.
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hkcavalier
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Great points! Unless it’s for illicit purposes, we should never disparage why people buy the firearms they do. Sure, we might try and convince them what the best really is, but at the end of the day we’re in this together. If you can’t go to a big outdoor range and appreciate the guns, the shooters, and why they own what they do, you’re a snob.
I became aware of the Python when I was a teenager watching Starsky & Hutch. I had to have one. I bought mine in 1979 when I was finally 21.
If Colt really wanted to improve the new Python, they would have changed the grips. The old walnut grips are horrible, completely incapable of allowing for good shooting of any kind of ammo, especially magnum rounds. The shape doesn't work in the hand.
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Rick Grimes with Python:
I’ll wager a huge portion of new Python buyers are going to have been first turned on to the big Colt snake gun from the Walking Dead television series. That’s not a bad thing. Hoping many of them enjoy the revolver and learn to shoot it well. This could spur a real resurgence in revolver usage from youth shooters.
Personally, and I know many of you here will either not understand this or laugh, but I first fell in love with the Python not from the Walking Dead, but the 2004 video game Half-Life 2. In that game, it’s a very powerful handgun you can use to defeat the cyborg alien overlords that have taken over the planet. I’d link a video to it but the game contains blood and is violent, probably against the forum standards for sure.
Cue the nerd alert! But seriously, what’s really the difference in modern TV/movies or games when many people here were first turned on to Smith & Wesson’s from Dirty Harry, or the Colt Peacemaker from the westerns of the 50s and 60s? Hollywood and the entertainment industry have a powerful effect on us. I’m all for more people owning revolvers and enjoying them, no matter from where they were first introduced to them. Without these media I highly doubt we’d be talking about a new Python right now to begin with.
I fell in love with the Python because it was the first magnum I shot as a child, it was my fathers service weapon for some time..
As of a few week ago I recently procured it(finaly talked my father into selling it to me) it is nostalgic to me for those reasons, and will only Ever be shot to teach my son to shoot years from now....
I want a new one because its stainless and I just want on haha!
Well-said. I paid market price for a 98% 1970 blued 6" Python a while back. I had several valid (for me) reasons for buying it and I'm still happy with the gun, regardless of how many posts I read that imply I made a poor decision. I shoot it, and I clean it. I never have thought of it as an investment, but if I had to purchase another similar Python, or a new 2020 Python as an investment, the decision would be an easy one.
I don't see a new ss Python effecting the price of original blued Pythons, but It wouldn't bother me if it happened. I always expected mine to go down in value, but I did not want to wait years for that to occur before purchasing one. If I had, I would still be waiting.
I look forward to handling/shooting the 2020 Python at some point. My old one is great, so if the new one is even better, why not?
