Safety thought of the day
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That looks more like an over charge. A squib would bulge the barrel at worst.
Double-charge.
Used to be somewhat common with .45 ACP using small powder charges. Two charges could be dumped in one case without it overflowing and signalling the guy loading that he'd had an "ooops."
Friend did this with a Model 25-2. He said, "I'm gonna quit drinkin' while I'm loadin'."
Used to be somewhat common with .45 ACP using small powder charges. Two charges could be dumped in one case without it overflowing and signalling the guy loading that he'd had an "ooops."
Friend did this with a Model 25-2. He said, "I'm gonna quit drinkin' while I'm loadin'."
DWalt
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I have always charged all cases separately followed by a careful visual inspection of the propellant level in the charged cases prior to bullet seating. Prevents double charges and empty cases. With a revolver, the typical damage from a squib load is a bulged barrel resulting from a bullet lodged in the barrel, as the barrel-cylinder gap allows excess pressure to escape.
One must train himself to be extremely careful and stop shooting immediately if only a "click" is heard. Sometimes, even only a primer can push a bullet into the bore and stick there.
One must train himself to be extremely careful and stop shooting immediately if only a "click" is heard. Sometimes, even only a primer can push a bullet into the bore and stick there.
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My one squib-with my reloads-was in my 4" M-57. The bullet wedged in the forcing cone, tying up the revolver. Fortunately.
That looks eerily similar to one that was posted on here a few days ago. Over-charged handload, not a 'squib'. Regardless of what caused it, it's always a good idea to be as safety cautious as possible when operating firearms!
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It was factory ammo. it was determined a "squib". I have no Idea, but with lawyers involved who really knows. My understanding is in some cases, like powerful magnum loads can cause a cylinder disinigration. blowing the top strap and cylinder apart. i don't know, just what I was told. It would be pretty hard to totally blow off half of the stainless cylinder, and the top strap, unless you had a mega overload of powder. Just my opinion
Marloe, what happens is the double-charged load being fired causes a "sympathetic detonation" of the two cartridges on either side of it. Thus, you have an overcharged round AND two normal charged loads exploding at the same time, Result: three charge holes in the cylinder being blown out, which removes one-half of the cylinder and the topstrap.
I would need a lot more specific detail from the guy who pulled the trigger to believe that. The evidence shown says that a squib is not at all likely to have done that. Furthermore, real factory ammo from a top-tier manufacturer* wouldn't be loaded with the type of powder that can do that.
When using the PROPER powder, no decent factory round of magnum revolver ammo has enough space in the case to generate the energy that is displayed in the wreckage.
*top-tier that we can agree on, Winchester, Remington, Federal, Hornady, CCI, etc. Not talking boutique makers like Buffalo Bore and for darn sure not talking about absolute hacks like Freedom Munitions and similar
I've never seen this. I would be genuinely appreciative if anyone can share links to pictures and deep discussion where they believe this happened, I would love to learn more.
The Last Standing Knight
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Pictures like this make me weep......
Here's a recent incident and discussion:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...ated-bad-day-range.html?610064=#post140660829
I've seen a Ruger Redhawk that looked like that. TiteGroup. Need I say more.
Haha, for the second time today... -no- the two adjacent rounds did not discharge, as evidenced by the fantastic photos. Both adjacent rounds were shredded from the incident, neither detonated and primers in both adjacent rounds are still live.
And the recent discussion/linked thread? Also Titegroup!
I am not blaming Titegroup, the same way I don't blame drugs. It's the reckless use of Titegroup that is the issue, and a sea change would be oh so good for the world.
That's a tremendous amount of energy , glad you were able to walk away and tell others about your misfortune
Not to hijack the thread ...
Sevens - what is wrong with Freedom Munitions?
I have fired 100's of rounds from Freedom Munitions - new and reman with NO issues - ever. Granted it was 9mm versus a magnum load.
Sevens - what is wrong with Freedom Munitions?
I have fired 100's of rounds from Freedom Munitions - new and reman with NO issues - ever. Granted it was 9mm versus a magnum load.
Agreed, it's not the powders fault. I use Bullseye, which is also subject to over/double charges.
