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My view is that believing that the WHO's advice re the Covid-19 virus is invalid because I don't agree with its views on gun ownership is like believing in high school that Sister Mary's advice on college admissions was invalid because I didn't agree with her views on smoking, drinking, and dating protocol.

Happily, I was able to make the distinction then, as I am now.;)
 
And they think the coronavirus is an epidemic.
1.3 million adults 18 and older attempted suicide in one year, with 1.1 million making plans to commit suicide.
In 2018, the report shows 325 active duty, 135 National Guard and 81 Reserve personnel died by suicide.
In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes.
According to NHTSA 10,511 people died in alcohol-impaired crashes in 2018.
Approximately 862,320 abortions were performed in 2017.
In 2019, an estimated 606,880 people will die of cancer in the United States.
About 6.2 million American adults had heart failure (HF) in 2013-2016.
 
Onomea said:
My view is that believing that the WHO's advice re the Covid-19 virus is invalid because I don't agree with its views on gun ownership is like believing in high school that Sister Mary's advice on college admissions was invalid because I didn't agree with her views on smoking, drinking, and dating protocol.

Happily, I was able to make the distinction then, as I am now.;)
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LOL, was Sister Mary going to get (or not get) millions of dollars per year depending on whether or not you chose to go to college?

I'm not denying this is an issue, I'm saying it is going to turn out to be a lot less serious than the media is making it out to be.
 
keith44spl said:
I generally stay out of the main stream of the public and don't take money from strangers.
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Well now, I gotta admit, if a stranger offered to give me some money, I'd probably take it.
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That gift-horse-in-the-mouth thing comes to mind.
 
I was over at another gun forum reading their similar thread, and it exhibited the kind of mass ignorance that the left feeds off of. The gun-owning community is great, but unfortunately it looks like our least-bright are also often our loudest. Of course, that's also true for our governor and for the news channels, but it doesn't invalidate the danger of this virus.

My girlfriend and I each have two over-eighty parents. As she told me, 2-3 weeks of being overly-cautious is a small sliver of our lives. Yeah, I'm young (61) and healthy, but they aren't. There are lots of fools out there who are not being at all cautious (I'm certain of this because I talk with them!), and if one of them touches something and then you do, you can get this. It's at least 5x as contagious as the flu and I get the flu every year. I don't mind being labeled a 'fool' by those who think this is hype.
 
runscott said:
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My girlfriend and I each have two over-eighty parents. As she told me, 2-3 weeks of being overly-cautious is a small sliver of our lives. Yeah, I'm young (61) and healthy, but they aren't. There are lots of fools out there who are not being at all cautious (I'm certain of this because I talk with them!), and if one of them touches something and then you do, you can get this. It's at least 5x as contagious as the flu and I get the flu every year. I don't mind being labeled a 'fool' by those who think this is hype.
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If you're taking care of someone in a high risk category, you're just being sensible. A point ought to be made though that you really can't depend on others to take precautions as it's asymptomatic for a lot of people. You have to do that yourselves. Disposable gloves may make sense in your situation. So, although there is a lot of hype, precautionary measures are really dependent on individual situations.
 
runscott said:
I was over at another gun forum reading their similar thread, and it exhibited the kind of mass ignorance that the left feeds off of. The gun-owning community is great, but unfortunately it looks like our least-bright are also often our loudest. Of course, that's also true for our governor and for the news channels, but it doesn't invalidate the danger of this virus.

My girlfriend and I each have two over-eighty parents. As she told me, 2-3 weeks of being overly-cautious is a small sliver of our lives. Yeah, I'm young (61) and healthy, but they aren't. There are lots of fools out there who are not being at all cautious (I'm certain of this because I talk with them!), and if one of them touches something and then you do, you can get this. It's at least 5x as contagious as the flu and I get the flu every year. I don't mind being labeled a 'fool' by those who think this is hype.
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Let fools be ;)
 
rubiranch said:
And they think the coronavirus is an epidemic.
1.3 million adults 18 and older attempted suicide in one year, with 1.1 million making plans to commit suicide.
In 2018, the report shows 325 active duty, 135 National Guard and 81 Reserve personnel died by suicide.
In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes.
According to NHTSA 10,511 people died in alcohol-impaired crashes in 2018.
Approximately 862,320 abortions were performed in 2017.
In 2019, an estimated 606,880 people will die of cancer in the United States.
About 6.2 million American adults had heart failure (HF) in 2013-2016.
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Actually it's a 'pandemic' which is worse than an 'epidemic'. You could also define some of the things you mention as 'pandemic'. If social distancing would help prevent the items you listed, I would certainly do it.
 
delcrossv said:
If you're taking care of someone in a high risk category, you're just being sensible. A point ought to be made though that you really can't depend on others to take precautions as it's asymptomatic for a lot of people. You have to do that yourselves. Disposable gloves may make sense in your situation. So, although there is a lot of hype, precautionary measures are really dependent on individual situations.
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You are absolutely right that you can't depend on others, but you can get the message to others that changing their behavior can save lives, and the more people who understand that message, the better chance your friends in high-risk categories have of surviving. This is about getting young, healthy people who aren't concerned about this, and who don't have loved ones in high risk categories, to consider the entire community and not just themselves. I have spoken with friends who are absolutely NOT concerned and are not taking any precautions. If some of them are convinced to change their behavior just a little, fewer old people will get this and die.

Edited to add: Given that my Airbnb in Seattle is now basically dead, I had considered driving cross-country to visit my parents. I just got a call from my Mom telling me not to. Not for my safety, but for hers. She's done her research and doesn't want to be exposed to anyone who has been around other people. One dumb*ss is all it takes. I've grabbed a lot of doorknobs and handled a lot of change, picked up items in the grocery store and put them back, grabbed the gas nozzle without wearing gloves are washing my hands, etc., etc. etc. The odds say it's unlikely, but I could be carrying this thing right now, and hand it over lovingly to my parents when I arrive in Colorado. I don't think most people really get the biology of this virus; i.e-contagion rate, contact and air transmittal, etc. As you touch things the odds are growing.

Everyone stay healthy. I personally am taking a break from the internet because it infuriates me :). I'll get my infuriation from CNN and CSNBC for a while, and my entertainment from walking my dog, reading books and drinking from my huge store of coffee and beer.
 
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